/lang/ - Learning IPA

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-04 18:08

I just found out there is an international organization for pronouncing shit called the international phonetic alphabet IPA.

How do I get starting learning it?

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-04 18:29

why do you want to?

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-04 18:31

>>1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English if you want to get it more clear.
There's also plenty of audio files available on Wikipedia, including extremely rare and difficult sounds like [ɮ].

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-05 0:04

>>2
it makes pronouncing any other language easier. Its not very hard to learn either, so its worth the effort.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-05 16:18

>>4

really? i've always had no problem with pronounciation. but i have a very adaptable voice, and i'm good at mimicking. lol

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-05 16:39

>>5
I'm jealous of you. Does your mother tongue have more phonemes than other languages like English?

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-05 18:48

>>5
i've always had no problem with pronounciation
pronounciation
Ok, now hurry and learn to write.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-06 0:59

>>6

my mother tongue is Korean. but i spoke chinese too from a young age, i've just always spoke different languages.

>>7

my spelling was correct, i spell with British english, so it was perfectly acceptable.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-06 1:18

>>8
Is Korea so poor that even children are bilingual in Chinese there?

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-06 1:38

>>9
What does being poor have to do with being bilingual in Chinese?

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-06 1:43

>>9

LOL. no, i've just always been interested in 漢字 and plus some chinese fhldaslkbloodas,dd lol

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-06 10:30

IPA is the easiest thing to learn man just learn greek and russian first

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-09 0:17

Don't bother learning IPA. Unless you're an autistic assburger, it's as difficult as a real language and a million times more boring.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-09 7:47

>>13
0/10
as difficult as a real language? all it is is a script, half the letters of which we already use.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-09 14:05

>>14
Cool story bro. It's difficult and unnecessary. By the time he learns IPA he could be well into learning a real language.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-09 19:00

>>15
it isn't at all difficult unless you are a retard, and it isn't unnecessary unless you have access to a native speaker who'll tell you words whenever you want to hear them.

i don't know what language you could be 'well into learning' in a week, but you're a troll anyway

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-10 1:21

>>15
its easy AND necessary. There aren't even many characters, especially compared to Chinese. and once you have learnt it (which should take about 3days) it makes pronunciation of any other language tenfold easier.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-10 17:34

>>16
>>17
autistic

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-11 4:49

>>18
no just because my attention span is greater than 30seconds doesn't mean I'm autistic.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-11 7:57

Learning ipa would be a majestic waste of time. Not much time, but regardless a huge waste of it.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-11 15:45

>>19

Yeah, Rainman.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-11 21:44

You /lang/ fucks are insanely easy to troll.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-25 15:59

I want to learn IPA so I can pronounce vietnamese words like nguyen

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Name: Anonymous 2010-01-23 1:07

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Name: Anonymous 2010-03-01 19:06

IPA is easy as fuck if you speak a language that isn't spoken by retards. Example of languages not written using a retarded orthography:

Turkish
Finnish
Serbian

Okay, I don't know about that many other languages with phonemic alphabets, but I can tell you that Russian definitely helps with its large variety of vowels.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-01 22:23

>>26
Korean? Those languages you listed aren't really phonemic transcriptions of the spoken words, are they?

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-02 12:06

>>27
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonemic_orthography

Scripts with a good grapheme-to-phoneme correspondence include those of Albanian, Armenian, Bulgarian, Basque, Croatian, Czech, Estonian, Finnish, Georgian, Hindi, Hungarian, Korean, Macedonian, Polish, Romanian, Sanskrit, Turkish, Greek, Italian, Somali, Spanish and Serbian.

I'm kind of vary of putting Korean on that list, though. It used to have a phonemic writing system, but nowadays Korean spelling actually has a lot of exceptions (for example, 합니다 is written hapnida but pronounced hamnida; consonants at the end of words aren't always pronounced but "swallowed"; when 의 is a genitive particle, it is pronounced e and not eui as the written form might suggest; ㅅ "s" at the end of words is not an s but a t sound; the phonetic values of many characters are ambiguous and depend on the position of the character in the word (ㄷ: t or d? ㄱ: k or g?), etc.)

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-03 17:12

>>28
ㄷ: t or d?
But those are the same phoneme.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-03 21:21

>>28
It's a roughly PHONEMIC script. Not PHONETIC.
So, doesn't bother if it's pronounced as /t/ or /d/, as long both are the same phoneme.
Using an English example, /ph/ (like in "pill") and /p/ (like in "spit") are different PHONES, but part of same PHONEME.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-04 12:22

>>30
Thanks, I never knew so much about PHONEMES. You really cleared up what PHONEMES mean. I so know my PHONEMES now!

Learning IPA

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