Real lolicon like raping an 8 year old IS illegal and sick but not4chan doesn't have real lolicon it says so in the rules if CP is posted the authorities will be notified. And where does it say that the loli on not4chan is illegal?
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Anonymous2006-03-24 23:59
it should be illegal. pedo should be banned goddamit.
canada for you people that can't tell the difference between cp and loli(victimless)
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Anonymous2006-03-25 7:02
"pedo" should be illegal and "loli" should be legal. Don't know the difference? ask a jap ...
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Anonymous2006-03-25 14:17
Any images depicting lolicon is illegal in the US and UK, (and probably other places)
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Anonymous2006-03-25 14:22
There is no difference between real CP and drawn CP in that both encourages pedophilic thoughts and behaviour. Being a visual medium makes it worse because it is more easily accessable to children. Also, it's fucking sick you goddamn pedos.
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no it really means a pedophile; lolicon is short for lolita complex.
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Anonymous2006-03-26 7:58
"lolikon" and "pedophile" are not the same thing ... ask a jap
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Anonymous2006-03-26 9:45
>>13
Yes because if its out of sight its out of mind. When are people going to realize there is always going to be the guys who want to fuck little girls and theres nothing you can do about it. Just let us have our lolicon images and we'll be happy. I never think after fapping to lolicon that I want to go rape a real girl. Know why? I just came and I can't come again for at least a few hours and also I am lazy. So leave us alone. lol. Also kill furries.
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Anonymous2006-03-26 11:51
>>17
When you view lolicon, it makes sex with children look normal to you and that makes you more prone to have sex with children at an other time. Society wants to tell the guy who wants to fuck children that it not normal and discourage it through any means. Dissemination of lolicon could create pedos from latent pedos too, those people who have never viewed children as sex objects but suddenly do because they view lolicon.
>>16
they is the same thing in Japanese shut up or proof.
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Anonymous2006-03-26 12:12
>>18
You are saying it's wrong to have sex with children. I take offense.
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Anonymous2006-03-26 21:47
>>18
You have me confused with a weak minded person. However I understand your point. Some people who arn't able to control their actions might think that viewing lolicon makes it ok. However a large ammount you will find are harmless. At least I know I wouldn't ever rape a kid.
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Anonymous2006-03-27 6:42
i think it would be better if loli was legal .
And if it was legal, i don't think everyone would become a pedo because IT'S NOT THE SAME THING .You can watch loli anime, look at 13 year old girl on the streets etc... and don't rape anyone ...Most of the guys who have the lolita complex are those who precisely want to protect children the most and are against child rapists ... And like someone has already said in another thread : It's normal to fantasize about having sex with children, but since it can have severes consequences for children, having sex with them is illegal. (and that's good ^^ ) But it's not weird or anything.
And there are lots of person who are "lolikon" : in anonymous forums like "world4ch", "2ch", we can see threads and lots of posts about "lolikon" "loli pictures" .
(exuse my english)
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Anonymous2006-03-29 19:57
hey, when i was 20 i was with a 16 year old girl. my good friend was also 20 when he first got with his 15 year old girlfriend. with that in mind let me ask you this
is this loli?
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Anonymous2006-03-30 2:28
>>22
okay according to the law it is legal to have sex with someone who is 4 or less years difference otherwise it is not legally considered consentual(both parties are equal when having sexual contact) though if thaqt person is under the age of 18 you do still need prior parental permission to have sexual contact. i recommend you get writen permission incase they change thier minds afterwords.
on to another fact about this stuff, the law states that it is illegal to make, have, or distribute pictures of real children. it does not state anything about drawn pictures. the reason behind this is that the pictures of real children have victims in it and drawings do not. i will state that i believe that drawn lolikon should stay legal for many reasons. i will say that i have sexually assaulted a child in my life time, i do regret doing it to a great deal, and have already done the time and everything for it i went to therapy on probation and did jail. i turned myself in. and for those who think that the victim said something first.... no i did. i personally find that viewing lolikon drawings is a way for me to redirect my sexual desires. and i to this day have never thought of molesting assaulting or viewing any real children at all because of lolikon. it is for me and for many fellow child molesters, we find it a good way to stay cleaner than what we used to do. so in conclusion lolikon is a child rape and child porn preventer. and that is why i believe that what many of the states trying to make lolikon illegal is a really bad idea. becuase those who like lolikon will have no way to direct their sexual desires, and therefor will go out and either molest a child or go and find some child pornography, which in turn creates more victims instead of keeping the children a little safer from pedophiles such as myself.
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Anonymous2006-03-30 5:05 (sage)
hate the crime, not the fetish.
sage for fetish haters
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Anonymous2006-03-30 5:12
exactly what i am talking about you can hate me for the crime i did i will understand that but don't hate the people who have the fetish and never commit a crime
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12006-03-30 5:27
I offer a conceding opinion for the case of loli
Summary of opinion: Loli isn't the issue I argue for. I argue for possible implications of abuse of power that may lead from the precedents set by prosecuting people who consume loli.
In summary of both sides:
Against loli (loli as defined as pornography involving the implicit or blatant depiction of exceedingly (the definition of exceedingly up for debate) youthful individual(s)): Depiction, whether realistic or symbolic of individuals of exceedingly youthful appearance or age promotes criminal (Criminal as defined as an act, either blatant, implied, or otherwise symbolic against legally enacted legislation currently implemented, including legally enacted legislation not currently implemented) behavior.
For loli position 1: Loli is not criminal, as defined above.
For loli position 2: Access to loli inhibits criminal behavior
Arguing opinion against "Against loli" position : It can easily be argued that loli is criminal, as set by federal judicial precedent. It is also easily evident that loli is socially unacceptable to important Western powers (important Western powers as defined as the United States and allies of said nation that openly support its position on loli). The argument on whether or not it's wrong can be debated. What my opinion of what's wrong, however, has nothing to do with pornography. I believe that enacting action against those who are predisposed to a certain thought is wrong. It can be right in cases where a blatant act is proven beyond a reasonable doubt (As defined as being greater than 90% supportive of said case) where individual(s) poses a threat. This cannot be proven in the case of all individuals who are predisposed to approving of loli and/or consuming it (Which shall called lolikon), but this is beside my point. My point is that by supporting the restriction of loli and prosecuting lolikon opens the door to further and further prosecutions, reaching broader and broader spectrums of individuals. After the lolikon, a fringe group, other fringe groups may be prosecuted. Furries, gays, and metrosexuals may be next. After that, those with far-reaching political extremism will be taken. Then less and less extremist groups will be prosecuted until everyone has the same way of thinking. Evidence for this argument is offered by examination of the history of the counterculture movement of the 1960s. In the 1960s the Cold War broke out. During this time, The US and Russia engaged in an arms race to try to intimidate and outproduce each other. Massive resources were required, and the support of the people was needed. The government of both sides implemented varying degrees of propaganda dissemination and oppression of opposition to try to control the political winds. From this rose a powerful opposition movement in the US: the countercultural movement. This movement supported free speech, civil rights, and the advocation of the poor. These things, however, were considered somewhat dangerous by the US is left unchecked. Needless to say, the countercultural movement was in need of checking, and withstood a barrage of constant government propaganda, disinformation attacks, and the fanaticism of the public at the time against all who stood against the official line. The main players in the counterculture movement were college age students and a great deal of artists. These intellectuals eventually won over the accusations of the government, which claimed that they were "Communist" in their support of free speech and "Soviet Sympathyzers" by trying to speak for civil liberties. This lead to sweeping legislation that gave way to civil rights for many minorities and women. Time has passed since then, however. Views have changed. We have lost some ground in civil liberties. Society has become excessively litigous, distrust of other people has become the norm, and we have become isolated. We shelter ourselves from truth by reading quick one-line rebuttals and hear and see things the way we want to without having to think. The old ways of thinking may not be blatant any longer, but are evident in certain facts, like how there are no longer any female lead singers in rock bands anymore. Or the fact that wages have not increased significantly in comparison to inflation. It's my opinion that we are heading down a path, albeit slowly that will end like George Orwell's 1984. I pray that I'm wrong, but if I'm not, than I won't stand idly by while we take another step, no matter how small towards that end.
You WERE a pedo but now you're not, now you're a lolikon and it's good. ^^
I AM a lolikon but i would NEVER touch or rape a child and i hate pedos ! But 23, you seem to regret, i think you're in a good direction. so i don't hate you ^^
Ok what the fuck is this shit?????????????? Ok yea it is a bit on the sick side of things, but its art. Its ment to shock and offend, but at the same time if ur at an art gallery and see nudes of little children, who do u think most of that was painted with live moddles. Ok so if ur all aginst this shit dont go to a fucking musieum and say ahhh little nekie cupid thet was a little nakie child that an artist had painted. Weather good or bad art is art so if u do like ok and if u hate dont fucking look.
The argument that viewing loli makes you likely to go out and exploit a child is bullshit.. just as the similar argument of playing violent video games will make you likely to go out and murder people. Conveniently, people who commit crimes will try and fall back on these arguments to avoid responsibility, which is equally bullshit.
Take Columbine for instance, the Christians and Media made the obvious connection to the kids playing Doom and shooting up their classmates, and ran away with it from there. Let's not forget that plenty of people prior played Doom without much incident, but of course it is the GAME'S fault, not the trigger-pullers themselves.
Back to loli, it doesn't manufacture pedophiles - this is just a way to get everyone's panties in a twist because nobody is going to try and defend the actions of pedophiles. Yet, loli isn't exploiting children, so there's nothing to bitch about.
If the day comes when someone has to defend pedophiles I'll be there either helping of giving support of some kind. We're not going to be here on the internet arguing it forever. Just like canada its going to come up in the U.S.