Game is responsible for causing stagnation. After it was released, everyone was popping a boner over shitty ps1 3D and cg movies. Except they were not Squaresoft and could not replicate ff7 so they were mostly doomed to failure. So we had all these half-assed shitty 3D games which shouldn't have been 3D.
FF7 also almost single handedly killed the sega saturn, dreamcast, n64 and cube. FF7 killed every franchise on these systems except for like the big nintendo franchises (like zelda, mario, kirby, mario kart, etc).
FF7 also killed nearly tons of franchises on ps1 as well.
FF7 also killed PC rpgs such as baldurs gate, fallout, planescape and the companies behind them. Because people were ignoring them while being faggots because they were spooging over animu cause they were bullshitted into thinking it was "new and exciting" when it really wasn't.
Because people were only buying shitty Square games. Was it worth it? Was it really worth it?
FF7 was a shitty game back then, and is still shit now. The only people who would like this shit must be idiotic wapanese.
The game is shit, the story is shit. Japanese RPGs suck a ducks dick. They have shitty stories about characters no one gives two cents worth of shit about and they're all like this.
"Will you save the kingdom?" []Yes []No
"Will you save the kingdom?" []Yes [x]No
"You must be joking."
"Will you save the kingdom?" []Yes []No
"Will you save the kingdom?" []Yes [x]No
"You must be joking."
"Will you save the kingdom?" []Yes []No
How many fucking times do we have to go through the same shit of...
"something bad happens"
"shitty characters save the world"
"crappy ending"
That's like every fucking jrpg right there. Come fucking on. How many times do we have to deal with this animu bullshit? I'm fucking sick of this.
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Anonymous2007-05-03 3:27 ID:VvIKAf4M
I am very interested final fantasy now...
I'm gonna buy ff5 advance soon
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Anonymous2007-05-03 8:02 ID:kyT7MTfb
>>1
and yet you still played it for how many hours?
It killed off Baldur's Gate and the company behind it? Baldur's Gate 2 was released in 2000. You know, AFTER final fantasy 7. And, last I checked, Bioware is still in business.
wtf lol, maybe people played ff7 because they thought it was better than other games on the market. you cant blame another consoles defeat on the unrivalled sucess of one game. maybe those consoles (you mentioned the shatern lol) were heading out anyway.
>>7
That makes no fucking sense. The fact that Bioware is still around and making games, and the fact that BG2 was released after FF7, is pretty much proof that the stench doesn't stick around.
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Anonymous2007-05-04 3:39 ID:b1Ku5XDP
NO U
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Anonymous2007-05-04 5:14 ID:PCgdSZhI
I agree with >>8 here. Although I'd also add that the way the industry has changed cannot be laid to blame entirely FF7. The stench which I see around the industry is one which makes everything graphics-centric, mega budget and low risk.
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Anonymous2007-05-04 12:46 ID:/Ndy0hsT
I agree the OP, FF VII sucks balls. The controls sucked really bad, the pre rendered 3d enviroments we're such a pixilated mess that you could hardly make out anything which added frustration because you couldn't tell the difference between the walkway you were on or a random object, the graphics were horrible for the PS1 other than the lame cutscenes (square-armed Lego people FTW!) the materia system was just a clever way of puting the job system in disguise, the story contradicted itself (if you didn't notice them then you suck at reading) the battles were lame and slow, why should it take 5 minutes to get through casting a summon? I had to avoid using alot of spells because they took forever..well I can go on but I'll stop now, anyway FF VII sucks big dick.
FF7 was the beginning of graphic whores and the end of the beginning of the stagnation point for the final fantasy series as a whole.
Ever since final fantasy 7,the games always had something that kept it at either being half decent or all the way bad
FF9:story sucked characters were good
FF8:took way to long to get to the story and by the time then i didn't give a shit,ontop of that it's linear and the high encounter ratio and teh stupid seed thing where you run and your seed rank goes down sucks.
FFX:it has good characters and the story is not bad,but it suffers of being linear and it kinda hurts the game.
FFXII revenant wings:the characters look like muppets and the dialogue is stupid
I HATE women. I never had a girlfriend and never will. The only times I got laid was when I paid a woman or promised her something. I'm never going to hold hands with a chick, kiss a girl intimately because we're in love, or any of the other shit that human beings were made to do. I guess that I'm suppose to be happy masturbating every fucking night. I'm a man with sexual urges and can't get with a female. I'm suppose to be alright with that? THERE IS A FUCKING CURSE ON MY LIFE. A CURSE THAT PREVENTS ANY FEMALE FROM LIKING ME. Oh I forgot, I do get interest from fat chicks and I'm not attracted to fat chicks.
I don't give a fuck anymore. I'm going to become the biggest asshole in the world. I tried the whole being considerate thing and it got me nowhere. If people can't handle my newfound harshness, then bring it on. BECAUSE I DON'T GIVE A FUCK. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK.
I get happy when I hear about some college slut getting murdered or injured in a hit and run. "oh she was a beautiful and talented girl, how could this happen." I don't know but I'm glad it did.
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Anonymous2009-11-18 7:37
FF7 is a good game but, revolutionary in many respects but many people who call it "one of the greatest games ever made" have never even played it and if they have they haven't even got far enough to leave Midgar. Also the "compilmation of FF7" including Advent Children is a load of retcon fanservice crap. One of the characters like Kadaj I think summons Bahamut with a freakin' green materia, that's how little research the idiots who made that film did.
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Anonymous2009-11-19 8:56
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TRUTH. Most of FF7 is basicly chaising Sephoroth around a map. Nothing big post-Midgar. I actually think Morrowind is much better. I mean giving people a choice in HOW to do things is better than eye-candy. In fact I blame FF in general for the ZOMG eye-candy movement. Before FF it was about the game. Most RPGs today are about making cool playable movies. Why not just make a damn movie? I wanna PLAY my games.
anyone who blasts this game on the internet is the biggest idiot in the world in fact he probably started the game fought one fight and cut it off he was probably killed in the first fight got pissed stepped on the game and started blasting this game because he didnt give it a chance he probably didnt even name his character grow up asshole it is the most selled rpg in history and considered by most to be the best game of all time it revoloutionized rpgs until final fantasy x so if you havnt beaten the game go kill yourself you motherfucker
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Anonymous2009-11-27 3:32
Nick, you're a faggot. Sales mean nothing in comparison to taste or integrity... just look at pop culture and music in america, it's shit. People say its the best game of all time don't realize there will never be a "best game of all time" - there is no revolutionary RPG, they just had some money to develop pre-rendered scenes to put on a CD.
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Anonymous2009-11-27 6:51
OP sure seems to be pissed for no reason.
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Op is dumbshit2009-11-27 20:00
i've owned ff7 and still bought and played many of the games you mentioned. Baldur's Gate/ BGII did great so i dont know why you insist that FFVII killed PC games. As for PSX, Breathe of Fire III, Alundra, Riven, and a few others come to mind. FFVII helped move on from the shitty format of previous platform RPGS. FFVIII would've been great if the characters didnt look like shit ingame though :\
I agree with OP. I always heard that FF7 is supposed to be sooooo good, so I downloaded it and stopped after 20 min. The games was fucking terrible, the ones who like it must be nostalgic faggots.
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TARDIS2009-12-02 19:11
I HAVE actually played FF7, and don't think it's that bad. It's just. THOSE. F**KING. FANBOYS. WE SHOULD DESTROY THEMMMM! (and all but 1 of the party members while at it. GO ahead, guess which one she is that I actually kinda like.)
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Anonymous2009-12-07 19:25
Video games are like dessert.
Pie fans like pie, and they're happy eating pie. Cake fans eat cake, and they're happy eating cake.
Then the pie and cake fans find out about each other and they can't believe someone could like something that's not their favorite dessert.
So the cake fans bake a pie, but they bake it until it's burned and make way too much crust, and leave the seeds in the apple filling. They show their pie to the pie fans and say 'look, pie is terrible, you should eat cake!'
Then the pie fans bake a cake, but they add curry to the batter as they're making it, and they don't cook it long enough so it's gross and mushy, and they use steak sauce mixed with vanilla frosting to coat it. they show their cake to the cake fans and say, 'look at this cake, it's absolutely horrible. pie is much better!'
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Anonymous2009-12-07 19:26
i went on /v/ and they told me to post on this board
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Anonymous2009-12-07 19:27
Is /games/ just hating on Square Enix or wut
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Anonymous2009-12-07 19:28
TROLLING AT THE SPEED OF SMELL
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Anonymous2009-12-07 23:19
Because if someone doesn't like Fainaru epic weeaboo Fantashee, then they must be trolling.
While FF7 indeed sucks a ducks dick, don't generalize. JRPGs can be cool, too. Take Chrono Trigger for an example. It is seriously one of the best RPGs I've played.
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Anonymous2010-01-22 21:32
FFVIII FUCK YEAH!
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Anonymous2010-01-22 21:33
FFVIII fuck yeah! holy shit best game evar!1!!!111!!1111!!11!1
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Anonymous2010-01-22 21:33
FFVIII hell yeah! holy shit best game evar!1!!!111!!1111!!11!1
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Anonymous2010-01-22 21:34
FFVIII hell yeah! holy crap best game evar!1!!!111!!1111!!11!1
FFVII is a VERY good game. you are just angry becuase you're sad SNES, N64 etc.. games all died. it is YOUR fault for not supporting them, dickweed. maybe you should go walk your anger of this out? or are you done pissing with FF7 and now on FF8! you sad piece of garbage
True that. I think FF& and after did send RPGs in the wrong direction. I liked the games, but they took out so much that I didn't actually realize what was missing. Things like guilds, and actual exploration (someithing that until recently 3D practically KILLED) -- and the chance to decide to be a badass rather than saving the kingdom like a good little faggot. It took Morrowind and Oblivion on my Xbox to show me that you could make a good game and give players a choice.
Graphics whores have killed off so many great games that it's not funny.
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FFVII is not the best FF2010-08-30 21:41
>>54 yeah but FFs always have a set story unlike Oblivion where it's always open ended.
I agree the FF7 pretty much killed off real roleplay until the PC market could make as good of graphics as a FF cutscene. People fell for the playable movie and cheap love themes and ignored the purpose of the role-PLAYING-game. Most of the JRPGS you'll find are baisc playable animes with little difficulty. They're probably OK for one playthrough, but there's no depth, and for that matter very little PLAYING. Every decision is already made for you. You have to save the planet. You have to fall in love with the designated wench. You can't be evil in any way, you can't decide that the hero would rather work for Shin-ra or whatever. You can't fuck with the NPCs, you can't do anything but play the movie the way the designers decided you have to.
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Anonymous2010-09-02 9:50
No, FF7 was a very good RPG.
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Anonymous2010-09-03 7:44
"Every decision is already made for you. You have to save the planet. You have to fall in love with the designated wench. You can't be evil in any way, you can't decide that the hero would rather work for Shin-ra or whatever"
That's exactly why the whole FF series is shit.
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Anonymous2010-09-03 16:41
all the reasons OP suggest imply that FF7 was really good.
not that I approve of all that stuff happening mind, but the fact that it did means FF7 had alot of impact.
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Anonymous2010-09-04 8:45
OP maybe youre, maybe youre not. FF7 influenced the industry in more ways than one for the good an also the bad.
Looks like somebody can't get past the bombing mission. Look kid, just because sonic and your mushroom eating plumber slowed down game production, dosnt mean they're dead. Marios flying through galaxies and sonics... Sonics dead. But he was dumb anyway. Just because you don't like a game dosnt mean u have to blame others. It's what you learn in fuckin kindergarten. Again, OP can't seem to beat level one.
OP seems to be trying to tell us something. Maybe his inherent love for shit perhaps? Or that he seems to think he knows the entire gaming history back to front. Mind that would make sense that he'd start at the back, given his love for the word, "shit".
Bro, if you don't know how/are too fucking stupid to play a game that is hailed as one of the best of all time, then that's your problem. But let's not try and pin this game as the killer of other franchises. Sonic was dead in the water for a long time, The Saturn and Dreamcast with it.
tl:dr - OP needs to stop rocking the buttsecks and stop posting on the internet. God knows it's filled with dickfucks already.
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Anonymous2010-09-08 0:11
i have never played ff7
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Anonymous2010-09-08 12:26
OP's stuck in Midgar D:
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Anonymous2010-09-08 13:25
While OP maybe a big tollfag he got a point.
Final Fantasy VII got to were it is as a original jRPG but the problem is became one of the most OVERRATED mainstream games known to man, last thing we need to throw in a time capsule is FFVII.
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Anonymous2010-09-08 22:42
cocks
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Anonymous2010-09-09 2:27
yeah its not that great
the only really good jrpg's are the mother series
I agree with the part that VII sucked, and it was the first Final Fantasy I played. VIII was far more better than VII, and IX mopped VII with the music, characters (Main character had emotions unlike Cloud) plot etc. I would say VII is one of the worse ones, next to XIII.
I played FF7 and FFX and FF12. But I do blame them for some larger trends that are killing the RPG. I prefer open ended shit that you can play with and decide what kind of hero you want to be rather than being force fed a preconceived idea of just who my character is. I like being able to randomly explore things that I'm not supposed to see yet. And really nothing takes the stress out of a shitty day like a Dark Brotherhood quest. But whatever.
My point is more that FF games aren't true RPGs. They're playable movies that reward you for defeating a boss with more prearranged stoyline. I'd personally rather PLAY. I want to make my own story.
But those games are dying due to graphics whoredom and weeaboo.
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Anonymous2010-09-23 0:23
Lot of hate here for VII. Am I the only one who here who thinks it's a good game?
Sure, it derailed the RPG industry with every single game trying to mimic it. It spawned the abominations that FF games today are. I never saw it as a traditional RPG. It was a new concept at the time, now it is not so new as everyone has copied it in a way.
And it was the game that started Fandom, shitty fanart/porn and weebooism on the internet. Straight after it's release hundreds of forums opened up with weeboo's circle jerking and argueing about weather Cloud loved Aries or Tifa (Love wasn't really a large aspect of the game anyway).
It did what Halo did to the FPS industry, changed it forever for better or worse. Nothing can be done about it now, Traditional RPGs are a dying breed.
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TriforceFag!rfcYEgKhUk2010-09-23 10:46
FFS FF7 was a great game on the ps1. You get to do the chocobo races, and then get the crazy fast ones from the ice land. You get to fall into the radiation shit and turn into a vegetable. Cid smoked a pack of smokes while flying around in his space ship. You get the opportunity to fight ruby weapon. One of the hardest fights in rpg history. Not to mention the basketball game in the arcade. That game had me reminiscing about the dash game in Crono Trigger.... and all you faggots can't tell me Crono trigger wasn't the shit. That game busts a nut all over the other games. SKEET SKEET MOTHER FUCKER!
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Anonymous2010-09-24 19:31
All FF games after FFI were complete shit.
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Anonymous2010-09-25 12:14
I like JRPGs and I hated FF7 and I think that people's obsession over it makes them gigantic faggots.