S.M.A.R.T.

Hay guyz,
My hard drive reports 240 S.M.A.R.T. errors. Mostly read/write. Time to replace?

No. Wait until you lose important data and whine about it on /comp/, like the other morons.

Good, I'll do that.
Any hints how I could retrieve my data, somehow copying doesn't really want to work, i.e. completely crashes my system (booting from CD).
There is not a lot I need to get from there, as most of it is already redundant. Could my IDE-controller mess with me, so another PC would be more successful in retrieving my wanted data?

While we're at it, is there a basic and easy to fix a broken partition or retrieve the data from it? Since EasyRecovery pretty much fails on me and can't use network drives I don't have a proper tool on my boot-cd (I think at least).

In other news - thank god it's not my porn hard disk, only the one with windows and all. Losing my porn, that would be important data lost!

>>3
www.opera.com

>>5
wut?

>>4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpinRite
http://www.grc.com/spinrite.htm

>>6
Lurk more.

>>7
So far I got everything valueable from the first partition, then I'll go over to the next working one. Maybe chkdsk or testdisk can fix the broken one, since it could just be a broken MFT I have there.

Meanwhile some funny stuff from smartctl:

Running command: X:\Programs\smartmontools\smartctl.exe -a /dev/hda
 
--- Here is the output ---
 
smartctl version 5.33 [i386-pc-mingw32] Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     HDS722516VLAT80
Serial Number:    VN643ECDD6XV6D
Firmware Version: V34OA6EA
User Capacity:    164,696,555,520 bytes
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   6
ATA Standard is:  ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 3a
Local Time is:    Fri Feb 08 14:12:56 2008 Local time
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: FAILED!
Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA.
See vendor-specific Attribute list for failed Attributes.

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00)    Offline data collection activity
                    was never started.
                    Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)    The previous self-test routine completed
                    without error or no self-test has ever
                    been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:          (3585) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:              (0x1b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                    Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                    Suspend Offline collection upon new
                    command.
                    Offline surface scan supported.
                    Self-test supported.
                    No Conveyance Self-test supported.
                    No Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)    Saves SMART data before entering
                    power-saving mode.
                    Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)    Error logging supported.
                    General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (  60) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   089   089   060    Pre-fail  Always       -       1966127
  2 Throughput_Performance  0x0005   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   116   116   024    Pre-fail  Always       -       214 (Average 301)
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1465
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   001   001   005    Pre-fail  Always   FAILING_NOW 1894
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   100   100   067    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0005   100   100   020    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       17085
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   095   095   060    Pre-fail  Always       -       65536
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1456
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   099   099   050    Old_age   Always       -       2033
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0012   099   099   050    Old_age   Always       -       2033
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0002   161   161   000    Old_age   Always       -       34 (Lifetime Min/Max 14/53)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       3152
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       5
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0008   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x000a   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       16

Smartctl? I'm running fsck. Your failure is total.

>>9
Oh sure, you're running fsck on a NTFS partition.
Also I didn't use smartctl for an integrity check, just to get the S.M.A.R.T. data. Durr.

NTFS? I'm using ext3. Your failure is total.

Ext3? I'm using Reiser4. Your failure is total.

REISER KILLS DUMBLEDORE

>>12
Reiser4? I'm not killing my wife. Your failure is total.

>>14
pwnt

NTFS? I'm listening to NSBM. You're failure is total.

If anyone should care - I got almost everything of my hard disk backed up, just in time as it seems. Few hours after the backup (and booting from it again lol) it more or less completely broke down. First I got flooded with read/write errors, then it started to make funny noises. Now all it does is blocking the complete system, so I can't even get my last pieces of smart data.

The disk's failure is total.

PS: >>16 - lrn2english
>You're failure is total.
>You're

>>17
Now all it does is blocking the complete system, so I can't even get my last pieces of smart data.

l2engrish

Just for the record, SMART is a poor indicator of drive health -- it doesn't trigger failure soon enough.  Google's study of hard drive health (they sure as hell own enough of them to know) suggests that SMART doesn't predict failure well for an individual drive.  On the other hand, any drive with bad sectors (aka reallocated sectors) is on its deathbed. 

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070225-8917.html for more

>>19
Problem is that hard drives have been transparently working around bad sectors for years now. During normal operation you won't notice shit, until there are so many of them that the drive can't keep up any more and you notice strange behavior. And at that point it might be hard to recover all your data in time.

A good RAID controller with monitoring software running all the time might help, if it reports these bad sector incidents. Any other ideas that don't involve physically scanning the whole drive surface regularly (which again stresses the drive)?

>>8


smartctl version 5.33 [i386-pc-mingw32] Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     HDS722516VLAT80
Serial Number:    VN643ECDD6XV6D
Firmware Version: V34OA6EA
User Capacity:    164,696,555,520 bytes
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   6
ATA Standard is:  ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 3a
Local Time is:    Fri Feb 08 14:12:56 2008 Local time
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: FAILED!
Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA.
See vendor-specific Attribute list for failed Attributes.

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00)    Offline data collection activity
                    was never started.
                    Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)    The previous self-test routine completed
                    without error or no self-test has ever
                    been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:          (3585) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:              (0x1b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                    Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                    Suspend Offline collection upon new
                    command.
                    Offline surface scan supported.
                    Self-test supported.
                    No Conveyance Self-test supported.
                    No Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)    Saves SMART data before entering
                    power-saving mode.
                    Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)    Error logging supported.
                    General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (  60) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   089   089   060    Pre-fail  Always       -       1966127
  2 Throughput_Performance  0x0005   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   116   116   024    Pre-fail  Always       -       214 (Average 301)
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1465
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   001   001   005    Pre-fail  Always   FAILING_NOW 1894
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   100   100   067    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0005   100   100   020    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       17085
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   095   095   060    Pre-fail  Always       -       65536
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1456
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   099   099   050    Old_age   Always       -       2033
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0012   099   099   050    Old_age   Always       -       2033
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0002   161   161   000    Old_age   Always       -       34 (Lifetime Min/Max 14/53)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       3152
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       5
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0008   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x000a   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       16

>> Schroedinger's Harddrive

Delete C:\WINDOWS\system32\HAL.DLL

>>23
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