MS needs Knoppix .... or sumpthin.
Just a heads up, there is an apparent conflict between the most recent version of Zone Alarm Security Suite and W2K, probably XP too.
Nod32 does not conflict but so far it's the only AV I've tested. I strongly suspect this conflict originates in the MS Security fixes most specifically the post SP rollup.
After two days of consultation with a MS support person usually using Live Meeting to control my box the result is a destroyed OS. He downloaded Reg Cleaner from his site, ran it and it identified 137 "problems". Since it wasn't a registered version it could only address 20 which he attempted by pushing the BIG BUTTON. He then ran a DOS command in WInnNT which crashed the box. On the phone he explained (nervously) that all was now "fixed" and the crash was normal. Upon a reboot I no longer could use IE or Opera and doubt much else works either.
I have a copy of XP arriving Friday and I'm able to back up the box to an external HDD so I'm not concerned.
If you're running Windows and experience hangs in the connections tray or other apps on shutdown don't call MS.
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Anonymous2007-01-18 0:06
moar proof that windows is infected with AIDS
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Anonymous2007-01-18 0:19
MOAR PROOF THAT YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT FOR USING AN OPERATING SYSTEM MADE FOR IDIOTS.
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Anonymous2007-01-18 0:20
recompile your kernel
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Anonymous2007-01-18 1:02
#3, I'm a guy who tried 3 nix distros early on. After wasting a day in Red Hat trying to sync my monitor I gave up on the critter. I realize it's more user friendly now but WTF do you want from a 61 year old who at least builds his own overclocked boxes and can run 2003 server moderately well?
I'm too old and short on time to start puttering with penguins.
Seems semantically imprecise. My cock neither farts, queefs or burps.
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Anonymous2007-01-18 13:40
PROTIP: the guys that wrote all the unixes and supporting utilities in the first place are 'teh old'
lsd and unix were the two big innovations to come out of berkeley in the 60's. i dont think it was a coincidence.
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Anonymous2007-01-18 15:19
"lsd and unix were the two big innovations to come out of berkeley in the 60's. i dont think it was a coincidence."
Berkeley & good ganja gave us many technological advances.
Before his untimely death I used to correspond with Seymour Cray's head OS engineer on the first Cray Super Computers. The OS used was pure Apple <shudder>.
This same OS guru went on to hosting a web site called "Muddy Fun" catering to nekkid wimmens covered in mud. Had he survived I have no doubt he would be here with us on 4chan.
14, if you ever come within a hundred women of the nothces on my pecker you'd be lauded as the studliest btard in history. No brag, the 60's were really years of free love and free of herpes and other STD's as well.
Just imagine btard heaven and you'll have a glimmer.
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Anonymous2007-01-19 1:59
>>17
im not sure what nothces are, but your days of raping little girls doesnt count as free love.
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Anonymous2007-01-19 21:39
I was a virgin till I was 18 and with one notable exception the first time I smoked grass I don't think I ever messed with anyone under 18 at all. I pretty much found girls under 20 hopelessly airheaded even at 18 & 19.
I hunt pedos, don't emulate them.
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Anonymous2007-01-20 7:38
And they say Linux is non-friendly and hard to get around in.
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Anonymous2007-01-20 13:57
"Linux is non-friendly and hard to get around in."
Leads to too many kernel recompilation trolls for one thing. Gotta admit that XP using Firefox and a couple plugins is very zippy. Opera is a nice browser but had many years to become what Firefox managed in a fraction of that time.
Where else could you get a George Bush countdown clock. <s>
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Anonymous2007-01-20 15:19
>>21
zippy? what is "zippy"? is it like a homosexual who enjoy furries or something?
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Anonymous2007-01-20 15:36
Engrish not your first language huh? Try the illustration for incite to "zippy"
Just now packaging firefox-2.0.0.1 for the in-house Linux distro (We do a linux version of our accounting software)
It's actually quite zippy, itself. I was impressed.
As for XP, were it not for an occasional need for Visual Studio 6 and an occasional urge to play Starcraft or Half Life, it would be wiped from my drive at the house.
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Anonymous2007-01-20 16:13
"As for XP, were it not for an occasional need for Visual Studio 6 and an occasional urge to play Starcraft or Half Life, it would be wiped from my drive at the house."
I unnerstan but W2K is showing lack of support issues and the post SP4 updates have grown huge. Enjoy your nix.
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Anonymous2007-01-20 19:02
>>25
ITS AN 8 YEAR OLD OS. UPGRADE YOU FUCKING IDIOT. FAGGOTS LIKE YOU ARE THE REASON THEY CANT FIX WINDOWS.
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Anonymous2007-01-20 20:19
>>26
I'm upgrading my 9 year old PC! I'm going to replace my old 5.25" HD by a new blazing fast 2.5" HD with a dazzling 5400 revolutions per minute!
I don't think Windows was ever meant to be fixed. Too much bad 98 code remains in it today. Even the switch to an NT core is breadcrumbs compared to Apple going to a nixlike core.
If the Vista GUI was built on a linux core Windows would be miles ahead of what they're offering their market.
Look at Mozilla and the useful addons possible when the code gets shared.
The average user at home or in a business won't wrestle with linux but an OS built on it with a usable operator friendly interface would still be a big Microsoft market.
Face it, in time the MS OS's will become a VHS Betamax without the techie edge.
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Anonymous2007-01-20 23:42
>>25
They have no intention of ever "fixing" Windows.
To do so would mean no-one would have a reason to upgrade and Microsoft would no longer have tens of billions in the bank.
True story. Old IBM legacy code. Had a bunch of do-nothing loops in it. Did nothing but chew up time. Each loop had a comment.
/* PPI */
It stood for Planned Program Improvement. Every version or so, they'd delete a few of the loops so it would be "Faster...Improved...Etc"
Not uncommon.
Windows, I bet, has an assload of PPI.
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Anonymous2007-01-21 4:16
>>31
Backwards compatibility is one of Vista's major problems. It is their commitment to backwards compatibility that explains why the Longhorn codebase is so large. IMO, they should have just redesigned their OS with the EXPECTATION that legacy apps WILL BREAK. Instead, real advancements are layered upon years of Windows cruft thus, contributing to the amount of existing cruft.
I think the optimal solution would be a VM layer of some sort that would be responsible for executing legacy applications.
It's likely why they bought Connectix.
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Anonymous2007-01-21 11:00
Vista sucks, not because of backward compatibility, not because the new features are mostly useless non-functional junk for lusers (ooooh, transparent windowz looool liek Star Trek!), not because it makes a decent machine feel like a 486, not because you need $5000 please like Apple faggots to buy hardware to run it, not because it wastes your CPU and GPU power which you wanted for applications, but because of all the in-kernel DRM shit it has. You are no longer in control of your system; Microsoft backstabs its users by turning their computers into media corporations surveillance units.
34 "You are no longer in control of your system; Microsoft backstabs its users by turning their computers into media corporations surveillance units."
Anyone using NT or a post NT MS OS can readily see that it assumes the user is a potential abuser. It repeatedly assumes the worst as might a SysAdmin and blocks the user's access unless as Admin he disassembles the safeguards.
Were you saying that MS spies for software makers or just logs info for media giants?
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Anonymous2007-01-22 6:13
It's known that Vista calls home, but it's not known exactly when and what kinds of information will it pass. Being full of DRM shit, call home (not only Microsoft, but media home too) for licenses is expected, and having a unique OS ID and media player ID, this allows them to track you all they want.
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