So, can /comp/ tell me, without breaking into trolling wars, the pros and cons of different torrenting programs are. I used to use Azureus, but it would eat up my resources, so I started using uTorrent, but I heard that it's full of spyware and limits download speed based on upload speed or something like that. What are the patrons of /comp/ using?
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Anonymous2006-10-31 19:12
rtorrent
gtfo winfag.
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Anonymous2006-10-31 20:24
Azureus = fast, powerful, but resource intebsive
uTorrent = fast, small file size, but not as many nifty features as Az (note utorrent does NOT have spyware or limits your sownload speed; my antispyware program found it was clear, and for 1 torrent i downloaded, my dl rate wat 150KB/s and upload was barely 1)
shadow's client = somewhat fast, small, but messy interface
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Anonymous2006-10-31 21:05
| I heard that it's full of spyware
what the fuck kind of crack are you smoking it's like 4k and is a standalone .exe
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Anonymous2006-10-31 21:48
>>4
Hey, just what I heard. I've been using it for almost a year now, and no problems, but I figured the sages at /comp/ would now more than me.
Closed source + relations with Peerfactor SARL = both a motive and a method to include spyware. In the past, they have also included search redirections, so there is, to some degree, a precedent. Note that a simple anti-spyware program scan will not do shit, which becomes obvious if you even have a general idea of how they work. If there is spyware in uTorrent, it would require weeks to months of reverse engineering to find it. From simple network usage analysis, it doesn't seem to be phoning home to anyone, but to my knowledge, no one cares enough to do a full analysis, seeing as anyone at all concerned would just use something else.
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Anonymous2006-10-31 23:18
>>4
uTorrent is ~450k uncompressed (it's a compressed executable).
Simple keyloggers can be done in about a kilobyte. We aren't talking about a rootkit, or anything fancy. All uTorrent would need to do is send torrent data somewhere. All you'd need to do is, when sending data to the actual torrent tracker, also send a copy once to another server. That would bloat the binary by a few dozen bytes TOPS. No one's going to notice a less than 0.01% filesize increase (especially after compression).
>>6
Take your FUD elsewhere and come back when your post can't be summarized by "OMG it's troo cause some pedos on wikipedia say the developers that make it know someone who codes spyware zomg"
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Anonymous2006-10-31 23:22
also fail for "it's closed source so they must be hiding something"
brainwashed by ganoo
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Anonymous2006-11-01 1:24
>>9
no one said that. how do i jumped to conclusions. closed source with no current buisness model and relations with an anti-piracy group with a history of deploying malware. that does sound suspicious. fuck off. gtfo.
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Anonymous2006-11-01 2:27
bittorrent is much better.
The python scripts I mean.
btdownloadcurses
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Anonymous2006-11-01 3:12
utorrent has a built in search bar... this search bar goes through one of their webservers and effectively adds a banner on top of any page your searching using frames...
That is the 'spyware' people are talking about. Do not use the search engine built in and you have no problem. If you want to search for items quickly create keywords in firefox and then use though, IE: 'ISO some roms' in firefox's address bar will search ISOhunt for the term some roms.
Other than that, no utorrent has no spyware/adware.
That is also a 'relatively' new feature though, as it did not do that in previous versions.
I still use utorrent myself and have no problem with it.
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Anonymous2006-11-01 3:36
OP here. Thanks for clearing things up.
If the search bar is the only "adware" on the program, that's fine. I don't use it anyway, since any torrent program eats up my shitty internet bandwidth (thus making using a browswer practically useless)
I'll probably stick with utorrent unless someone can name some awesome stuff in Azureus I'm missing.
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Anonymous2006-11-01 3:39
>>12
The search isn't the only things everyone's talking about. While it has been claimed that no information is collected, it can't be proven and raises concerns about the reasons for keeping it closed sourced and the goal of working with PeerFactor SARL.
>Other than that, no utorrent has no confirmed spyware/adware.
Fixed. Though, honestly, I doubt there's anything to be worried about. But I'm 1) a Linux guy and 2) an rTorrent/Azureus + GCJ user anyway.
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Anonymous2006-11-01 3:46
>>13
CLI... interface (redundant?)
DHT
NAT Traversal
Linux and Mac support
Open Source
IPv6
Web Seeding
Remote Control
JAVA JAVA JAVA JAVA JAVA JAVA JAVA JAVA
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Anonymous2006-11-01 4:13
I'm using Azureus on my dedicated Linuxbox together with some servers.
hey guys
I got a question, maybe someone here can help me out witch this...
What does it mean if my torrent client displays an "NAT Error", and may this be the reason why a certain download can't get over 98%?
Furthermore, all the peers i got are also displayed with only 98% of the file, whereas before i'm sure a few also had 100%?
Is this maybe a hoax, as in some company
trying to track down people who download stuff?
I'm realy not a tech guy, my qustion may seem stupid, but i'd apreciate if someone could help me out on this, thanx in advance!
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Anonymous2006-11-01 12:41
>>18
NAT error = ports not forwarded = unable to see some other clients
>>15
Azureus also has superior prioritization capabilities and plugin support for advanced users.
uTorrent has DHT support as well (similar but incompatible with Azureus' implementation), and its lower resource requirements are advantageous for people who like to torrent while gaming or Photoshopping or whose PC's specs are SHITSUX.
Both are fine in general, but I prefer Azureus. Anyone still using BitComet, BitLord, or old clients should consider switching to Azureus or uTorrent.