Gentoo

Yes, I use Gentoo. So? I dont see any problem. I embraced my Gentoo distro long ago and I am happy together with my workstation (that is a stage 1 box!). I have a fucking lot of ebuilds in and outside of portage and my CFLAGS are pretty optimized and solid.

But thanks anyway asshole. Go and use your stupid Debian while I EMERGE new ebuilds.

Huh?

CFLAGS JUST KICKED IN YO

lmfao

great pasta, simply brilliant

needs more Vrooooom! Vrooooom!

>>1
Do you seriously think people still use Debian? Debian died in 1992.

>>6
lol ubuntu

WE BUILT UBUNTU ON JANKU

WE BUILT THIS CITY ON ROCK AND ROLL

>>6
how do i run server?

>>6
I died in 1992 :(

>>10
how do i ran server?
>Fixed

OpenBSD rules! lol gentoo! You linux kids and your crazy distros!

Yes, I use Gentoo. So? I dont see any problem. I embraced my Gentoo distro long ago and I am happy together with my workstation (that is a stage 1 box!). I have a fucking lot of ebuilds in and outside of portage and my CFLAGS are pretty optimized and solid.

But thanks anyway asshole. Go and use your stupid Debian while I EMERGE new ebuilds.

For me Gentoo is perfect. For you, perhaps not. What is really strage about Gentoo is this: people who like it or dislike it keep constantly refering to Gentoo-when in reality we are refering to Linux. With othert distro's when you have problems they are problems with Redhat or with SuSE or with Lindows. But if you have problems with Gentoo you have problems with Linux. That's because with Gentoo you have returned to the source.

It's the speed, it's how I EMERGE my packet, oh boy oh boy oh boy CAN YOU FEEL IT!? Full power to -funroll-loops!

This thread is so confusing. I don't even know what's real and what's copypasta anymore.

This thread is so confusing. I don't even know what's real and what's copypasta anymore.

All of this is copypasta. We like Italian food.

Hey >>19, listen to me for a moment, a'ight? I don't care if it's not related to this thread. Just listen!

Yesterday, I went over to the Ristorante di Milano for a simple meal. Yes, THAT Italian restaurant, Ristorante di Milano.
But the whole restaurant was so crowded, I couldn't even find a seat for hours!
Then I saw a poster that said "Special offer! €12 discount".
I thought to myself... geez, that's so fucking amazing. You guys don't even normally visit Ristorante di Milano.
All you bastards came here just for that stupid-assed €12 discount.
Just for those 12 Euros. TWELVE FREAKIN' EUROS!!

Then I saw some parents & children. A family of four eating out at the Ristorante di Milano. Damn, so much for that bitch's home-cooked family feast.
Then one of the little brats said "Daddy's gonna order a large Bruschetta Fegatini".
I couldn't believe it! Uuuuuggh, are you out of your fucking mind!?
Shiiit, i'll pay you €12 just to move your stanky fat-ass out of a seat.
Dude, you just don't go to the Ristorante di Milano for that lala-oh-i'm-so-happy dinner bullshit.
It's where you pick a fist-fight with the fucking guy sitting across 'yah in that U-shaped table.
Kill or be killed. Heh... now that's the kinda shit I like.
Ladies, kids, stand back... 'cuz everything's gonna get FUCKED UP NOW.

After waiting for ages, I finally found an empty seat. But then, the guy next to me ordered by saying "A large Neopolitan pizza with a LOTTA' pepperoni".
Dude, that just pissed me off even more. Shit, you just don't say "lotta' pepperoni" nowadays, ya' freaking bastard.
How the fuck can you say "lotta' pepperoni" with that "oh, i'm so fucking cool, hur-hur-hur..." look!?!?
Damn, I was THIS CLOSE to standing in front of his face and yelling "DO YOU EVEN LIKE EATING THAT MUCH FUCKIN' PEPPERONI!?"
For a freaking hour, I was THIS CLOSE to doing that.
Shit, I bet you just wanted to use the words "lotta' pepperoni" out loud. Wow, you're so clever.

Dude, you gotta be like ME. See, now I know what's "all that" in the Ristorante di Milano.
What's cool right now to say is "Pennette con Ricotta & Melanzane". That's it!
You see now, a large pasta serving with aubergines & ricotta is what the hardcore Ristorante di Milano freaks eat. Like ME.
Saying "Pennette con Ricotta & Melanzane" means that won't get a pizza, but they put a WHOLE MESS of pasta.
Mmmmm... a lotta pasta, now THAT'S what I call a meal.
But anywhoo... ordering that is kinda' like a double-edged sword. Cuz' then the waiters might notice you the next time you come by.
So yeah, I can't reccomend this to noobs.
For you, just go order a Prosciutto e Melone al Ventaglo. That's as far as you can go, you know what i'm sayin'?

This thread is so confusing. I don't even know what's real and what's copypasta anymore.

www.opera.com

>>22
Opera sucks sure there's an ebuild for opera but it just get dropped to /opt, it's statically linked, and it's CLOSED SOURCE, which means that it is a BINARY package.

Closed Source wins.
Open Sores causes aids.

>>24
Opera sucks sure there's an ebuild for opera but it just get dropped to /opt, it's statically linked, and it's CLOSED SOURCE, which means that it is a BINARY package.

>>23
Binary? OMG! HERESY! Go back to your basement you Linux wanker.

http//opera.com/...

O lawd, is dat sums shared gentoo version I see?

roffle. Gentoo fails.

>>27
Opera sucks sure there's an ebuild for opera but it just get dropped to /opt, it's statically linked, and it's CLOSED SOURCE, which means that it is a BINARY package.

Vroooom! Vroooom!

>>29
Yes, I use Gentoo. So? I dont see any problem. I embraced my Gentoo distro long ago and I am happy together with my workstation (that is a stage 1 box!). I have a fucking lot of ebuilds in and outside of portage and my CFLAGS are pretty optimized and solid.

But thanks anyway asshole. Go and use your stupid Debian while I EMERGE new ebuilds.

>>28
Binary? OMG! HERESY! Go back to your basement you Linux wanker.

lol emerge

you have never compiled anything in your life

gb2/l/

>>32
I just did. Twice.

stop that gentoo shit.
TRY ARCH LINUX.
you get the power and bleeding edge of gentoo withouth that compiling shit. although compiling can be easiy done with the arch build system. its even easier than with gentoos portage-ports-stuff.

Use ubuntu, NOW.

www.opera.com
OH WAI-

>>34

Speaks the truth.  I don't understand people who fucking emerge shit.  I don't want to wait for fucking programs I want now, and why should I?  So that I can see maybe a tiny ass preformance difference?  Fuck that, most of the time my machine isn't maxing out its resources because linux is already efficient as fuck.  Not to mention that arch is i686 based anyway.

Arch and Ubuntu are made of pure win.  Gentoo although a good distro, is just gonna lose more and more as time goes on.  That's why they added teh graphical installer, because they realize they need to change some things to be able to keep up.

Arch is crap tbh.

>>34
Bleeding edge of Gentoo? The only distro that is further behind is Arch Linux. GCC 4.0 lol.

gentoo is for noobs

I like portage, I don't like apt. Maybe I'm just stupod.

Install OS X. Problem solved.

>>36
Opera sucks sure there's an ebuild for opera but it just get dropped to /opt, it's statically linked, and it's CLOSED SOURCE, which means that it is a BINARY package.

>>43
FHS=shit

I'm using Gentoo for a few months now, coming from the Debian world.
Portage is fine, but not as advanced as apt-get, desinstallation for example. And portage is quite slow too. If i'd had some time, i'd rewrite it in C for my personnal use.
But gentoo wipes out Debian for documentation and communty, Debian's one is full of elitists and morons.

>>43
Too much copy/pasta kills copy/pasta

>>45
And portage is quite slow too. If i'd had some time, i'd rewrite it in C for my personnal use.
And be sure to compile it with some revved up CFLAGS!

>>46
VROOM VROOM

>>43

Yes opera is dropped in /opt and you should drop yourself in /dev/null or in the debian community fucking extremist GNU zealot.

>>47
Ricers must die. In a optimised way, for our pleasure and salvation.

>>48 got trolled

>>49

Yeah I know, but this fuktard's spam is such a bore

>>48
The Debian community IS /dev/null

>>48

GNU WILL DOMINATE ALL !
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE !
NON-GNU SOFTWARE FAGS WILL BE STANDING AGAINST THE WALL WHILE BEING SHOT !

They will be shot with a GPLed gun, of course.

>>39
the developers don't have big compiling-farms, so they cant compile all the software at once. there is a new release comming soon with gcc 4.1 and all the software recompiled. you can get gcc 4.1 anytime you want though and recompile all packages with srcpac.

btw: http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=gcc
LOL GENTOO HAS GCC 3.*!!!!

>>52
There is no OS but GNU and Linux is its kernal

The 10 commandments:
1. Thou shalt use RMS' definition of free
2. Thou shalt never distribute thy binaries, as it is every man's duty to waste time compiling
3. Thou shalt use a terrible directory structure to honour thy god
4. Thou shalt never put "." in the Path for "." leads to evil
To be continued

>>54
Gentoo is not known for being up to date.  It is in fact very much behind most any current distribution.

>>57
Well if you go to the more wild ebuilds ~x86, you CAN have the most up to date versions of the software, sometimes with less then a week from the developer, ebuilds are easier to maintain

ebuilds are easier to maintain
MOAR LIEK YOU CAN BUMP THE VERSION NUMBER OF THE EBUILD AND PRAY THAT EVERYTHING WILL STILL WORK WITH -O4, -ffast-math AND -funroll-loops

>>58
~x86 is very much behind as well (I use it for anything that matters). If you really want to be up to date, you'll have to use -* builds and overlays.

But gentoo is not about performance! It's about freedom of choice the true spirit of open source

Lol freedom

No OS is actually freer than any Unix ever was:
1. You decide what to do and how exactly should it work
2. You can get it to do anything you want
3. There are no licenses
4. It's PD, GPL, BSD, commercial open source and commercial closed source compatible all-in-one

Therefore, no OS > Linux

>>59
exactly.

>>62
Way to talk out of your ass. BSD isn't free. Anybody can sell it. Free = GPL.

>>64
Lol, this is a troll.

>>65
Looks like somebody didn't read http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

``Free software'' is a matter of liberty, not price. To understand the concept, you should think of ``free'' as in ``free speech,'' not as in ``free beer.''

>>66
Looks like someone thought the Internet parsed TeX.

>>67
Looks like someone is tryig to pull an ad hominem

>>66
GNU hippie.

Free means "do whatever you want". GPL is not free. BSD or GTFO.

>>68
Looks like someone took debate class

>>69
You are the hippy for thinking that "free" means "including the freedom of raping me up the ass"

>>69
The only freedom the GPL prohibits is the freedom of taking away the freedom of other people.

I can see how that would upset an amerikan.

>>72
In other words, as soon as you use GPL in your software, it will become infected and you'll have to it make open-source. Oops, you believed us on that freedom talk at the beginning of the license? sux 2 b u, lol.

See this page for proof: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html
They use their licence as a weapon to propagate themselves. Only use MIT-licensed libraries if you to prevent your software from being infected.

GPL vs *, wow I've never seen this discussion before.

>>73
Infected is the wrong word.  The real word is liberated.

And for you amerikans, liberated means "set free" not "terrorized", "communisted" or "nazified."

>>75
Liberated. As in being set free.

Free from things such as being able to produce a program for work which conforms to proprietary standards without having to reproduce a bunch of code which has already been written under a restrictive license (I'm looking at you, GPL).

Free from being able to mix and match code and give it to a friend without having to ferret out every bit of code that is not only used in the programs I'm giving him, but is also hidden in some obscure GPL'ed program somewhere.

Free from being able to do ANY thing that I want with the code.

That, my friends; is American-style freedom

Give me BSD ANY day!

>>75
Hey man, how about the freedom to choose whatever license you'd like to release the source under?

This "Freedom(TM), but only my way!" is really juvenile.

>>76
1. Licence the proprietary code under the GPL.  Proprietary code is evil.

2. Don't distribute binaries, that's almost as bad as using Opera.  Oh wait, it's worse.

3. Sadly the GPL does not say anything about incinerating Jews, Hitler!!

>>77
You cannot choose a licence more Free than the GPL, so what you want to do is Evil(tm).

--
Evil(tm) is a registered trademark(tm) of Micro$oft(tm) Corporation.

>>78
In the real world, you have these things called 'trade secrets', it's a part of 'competition', which is a sign of a healthy 'free market'. This results in having to either maintain your competitive edge by holding specifications secret, or starving in the street.

Of course, you'd have to live in a genuinely free (as opposed to a jee-ehn-yoo-inly Free) society to appreciate the value of capitalism; but trust me, there's a time and a place for cooperation, and the corporate world ain't it!

2. your point makes no sense

3. this point makes even LESS sense then #2 did.

lastly, the BSD license is far more free than the GPL. You might want to read up on it.

  Free \Free\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Freed; p. pr. & vb. n.
     Freeing.] [OE. freen, freoien, AS. fre['o]gan. See Free,
     a.]
     1. To make free; to set at liberty; to rid of that which
        confines,

Now can we stop bitching, GPL enforces what you can and cant do with the code. BSD does not. Guess which one is more free, tards?

>>80
Freedom is not free, only GNU ensures that both you AND your users have Software Freedom.

>>81

BSD ensures I can do whatever I want with my code and if I give my users the code, they can do whatever they want with it. How is this not free all round?

>>82
They can't sue you for damages. That is gay and communist.

Look, you can't have freedom unless you are willing to grant other people freedom. BSD-style licences do not grant other people freedom since they can't ensure they will themselves be able to grant the same freedoms. Only the GPL can enforce the necessary freedom.

hahaha oh wow

so you think people actually read the license agreement of your freewares? Grow up, you fucking nerds.

Viral licenses are not free. GPL exists just to make RMS' e-penis larger every time somebody is forced to use it. Lol freedom.

BSD is free as in "free". Both libre and gratis.

>>72
The only freedom the GPL prohibits is the freedom of taking away the freedom of other people.
Profiting from free software does not take away any freedom.

I can see how that would upset an amerikan.
I'm European.

>>78
Don't distribute binaries, that's almost as bad as using Opera.
People like you make me waste so much time. Go back to your tree house you long haired, LSD taking hippie.

>>80
True

>>84
you can't have freedom unless you are willing to grant other people freedom
This is wrong and false in so many ways. Hippy.

Profiting from free software does not take away any freedom.
That answer doesn't address the argument you quoted.

People like you make me waste so much time. Go back to your tree house you long haired, LSD taking hippie.
You're just insulting him instead of replying.

This is wrong and false in so many ways. Hippy.
No, you are the one who is wrong. See the pattern? Saying that the other one is wrong is not a good way to make a point.

Congratulations, you have not refuted anything or made any point.

>>87
How does BSD allow you to take the freedom away of others? If what you want is a commie license that forces others to be commies too, then it's not exactly freedom - it's forcefully open source free of charge non-free software.

Regarding the long haired, LSD taking hippie: I already said what I wanted to - he may have all the time in the world to waste compiling shit and going VROOM VROOOM, but I'd rather download executable files from trusted sources which depend on standard libraries (which, if necessary, I can download in executable form too). This way I can download, test, and dump or adopt in 2 minutes instead of 20, having to fix all the shit that won't compile and waiting for a 1 MB shell script to run for 5 minutes doing shit. Lol freedom!!!! I like open sauce, but I don't like to deal with the sauce if I'm not cooking pizza at the moment.

>>87
Finally, regarding freedom: who said you need others to have freedom to have yours? This is completely illogical. On top of that, how does this relate to BSD or GPL? It's not like BSD doesn't allow others to be free. In fact, it allows others to be freer than GPL does - because they can do more things.

RMS is just a whiny hippy who wants to see everybody's sauce just because, and wants to force his (rather twisted) view of freedom on everybody else, which shows it's not true freedom as it's made of forced and viral.

Just quit whining. If you want to make something free, then it's fucking free. Public domain is the true freedom: absolutely no restrictions. BSD is a honourable public domain (PD with credits). Viral licenses can't possibly be freer than this because they force something onto you - for whatever the reason, but they force shit, therefore they're not free.

GEE PEE ELLL GEE PEE ELLL *whine whine*

You are confusing all the issues and not making any point at all. You should stop trolling.

>>88
What the hell is so bad about having long hair, huh!@

Also, only BSD users take drugs.

>>91
Nothing wrong with long hair, as long as you don't do drugs and are a Unix hippy at the same time :D

93get. also, time paradox due to conflict with the other thread.

POSTING IN A LEGENDARY THREAD

I trolled it so much I don't even remember which posts are mine.

>>94
That is the lotta' pepperoni of trolling, sir

>>94
Lol, same here

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Back then we had awesome trolling. I miss that :(

>>99 GET

100GET

>>98

*tear*

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VROOM VROOM

www.archlinux.org

>>102
Winnage

Bampu to show kids how higher the bar used to be before. Please put more effort in your future trolls, thanks.

This has got to be the most retarded unix/ linux discussion ever. I'm probably just flame bait, but fucking hell

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