Animation Appreciation thread #17

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Appreciate animation pls

>sakuga fandom

Do you mean the wiki? Not sure why I should care.

Yeah
anyway Takahata is underrated anyway

>>836
DAMN

Hey, are the Star Driver Movie animated gifs newly posted on Sakuga Booru confirmed for being animated by the mentioned animators?

>>844
Yes, except Norimitsu Suzuki's parts, but that's because he animated uncredited as always.

Why are Space Dandy's ships CG? This is horrible.

>>846
WHO THE FUCK SAYS THEY'RE CG?!

>>846
But they're not. Why are you even here when you can't see the difference between CG and hand-drawn stuff?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o480GrsQGmo

Official Space Dandy PV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmZtjNmvZUU

OP - Movie 6 Sakuga

>>841

It's in the wiki actually, but aside from Grave of the Fireflies Takahata movies barely get any mention in general.

Yuta
http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/f74ed6908ce104f10c08f08c1cc4b571.gif
Tanaka
http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/f3b62fae5954b962c2c621701a93103d.gif
Norimitsu
http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/3b931841196dd002a2412cdd9ff3f105.gif

That's it... KyoAni is officially finished.

They ain't got shit compared to these powerhouses. Now only if sakuga community would stop talking about them and learn some proper taste.

>>853
KyoAni should take risks.
In this rate, they will become JC Staff in a few years.

*At this rate

>>853
>>854

Are you a fucking drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a fucking idiot and you should never make a post on this board again and I'm fucking serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-Kyoani topics because you're a faggot hater who doesn't like the studio because they're good. Fuck you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these fucking studios on the board, like I give a fuck. It's so easy to spot out your posts now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your fucking life try not to make a post like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. Fuck you. You are nothing.

30s CM for Kill La Kill

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k3wzcewGjLE17E4xWdd

Odd world we live in where Bandai tweets in English the PV isn't region blocked.

Meanwhile scumbag Aniplex region blocks it, Sony cockblocking youtube reups, and judging by twitter, the PV is being played at Chara Hobby, fucking GSC and Ultra Super Pictures

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k3wzcewGjLE17E4xWdd

Kill La Kill doesn't look so technical impressive as LWA. Though this was expected - tax money vs. tv series budget.

>>848

to be fair. The official PV didn't show any special mechanical animations for the space ships.

For stuff like this I would prefer good CG over limited animation.

>>851

Well, the biggest part of the sakuga fanbase are old shounen fans. People barely mention good non-fighting animations here and in the Japanese wiki.

Cast pearls before swine or something like this...

Kill La Kill CM was very average (again)

only this cut was OK
http://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1377/79/1377799957061.gif
but it was just OK, I've seen stuff like this too much to get impressed by it again.

>>856
Dude, calm the fuck down.

>>861

I think the huge problem with Kill La Kill sakuga is that,
and that's just my opinion,

that Imaishi is forcing all his animators to be Imaishi.
80% of the animators on Kill La Kill are young newcomers, I think he should let them go free. They are fresh blood and anime needs some fresh sakuga now.

Everything looks like an imaishi / Amemiya copy.

http://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1377/79/1377799957061.gif

But again, this was just a 30 second PV.
I really hope to see some cool stuff soon.

>fresh sakuga

Oh god please...

Having a consistent art style isn't a bad thing.

>>863
That's a good point.

I remember a key element in sakuga used to be the individuality of each animator.
I don't feel the "karisuma" in Kill La Kill.


Bones can still offer that.
Lots of animators with individual styles working on Space Dandy.
Specially having Yuasa on board is a special thing.

They are really going for this philosophy of offering the audience lots of variety with each episode.

 Kill La Kill feels more like a straight forward Imaishi school through 26 episodes.

I personally prefer variety sakuga, that's why I enjoyed GitS Innocence submarine scene where we see technical Okiura and Inoue among surreal Ohira and Hashimoto.

>>865

This reminds me to Koji Morimoto and Otomo's debate at the Akira production.

Otomo wanted to try the disney production style and have everything be very consistent, but Koji was against it. So Akira ended up being something in the middle at the end, both of them were satisfied with the mixed result.


Kill La Kill has become way too consistent, I can't tell who animated what in this PV.

Looking for the incoming fall shows.

I guess my biggest hope is Knk by KyoAni.

Kill La Kill has become way too consistent, I can't tell who animated what in this PV.

Is this serious or I'm victim of trolling?

There is just a 30s CM and people call the show too consistent?

Guys, I'm so happy that you aren't in charge of an anime production.

new one kill la kill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZARp9eIQvE

sorry if old

>>865

Kill La Kill looks consistent because it's a complete in-house production.
This is and has always been the result of in-house productions.


Hiring freelancers allows for more individuality but also lots of off-model key-animation.

Karisuma animators are in a lonely environment during their work.
Ohira, Yutapon and Iso never work in a group shared room, they want to be alone.

Iso used to lock himself in a room and thow around with things, you could hear strange smashing sounds, no one knew what was really going on.

Ohira has been working from home since the beginning, only on Akira he was asked by Otomo to come into the studio.

Yutapon also has his own room at Bones.

Anno also gave Iso a special room during End of Evangelion production.


The less you communicate with the other animators during the production, the more you become individual.

Kanada also used to be an animator who never followed the advice of his fellow animators.

it's obvious that your animation ends up looking like Imaishi if he is sat next to you telling you to do this and that.

>>868
>Is this serious or I'm victim of trolling?

Not the only troll post this hour.

>>868

Is this serious or I'm victim of trolling?

You can answer that question by yourself.

Just look at the CM again,
if you can tell who animated what, then you've been trolled.
If you can't tell, then shit is getting real.

>>871
it's a complete in-house production

Yeah, I'm sure 15 key animators Trigger has will handle a 2-cour series just fine.

S dandy
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x140ash_space-dandy-pv_news

Kill La Kill CM sakuga analysis


0:01 character inbetweened to the left with mouth going up and down.
        Only 2 key-animation drawings were probably used here.

0:05 standing around, inbetweened hair animation, very consistent movement.
        looks very average

0:07 character turns around in super decent way

0:08 layout, fuck animation, just scale everything in After Effects.

0:09 mouth closed, mouth opened, 2 key animations

0:10 mouth closed, mouth opened, 2 key animation, pan up to add more depth.

0:11 random "I have no idea how hair moves" animation

0:11 decent, at least the mouth has one drawing with a different expression

0:13 in-betweens fuck yeah

0:13 typography sakuga

0:14 1 layout drawing

0:15 1 layout drawing

0:16 1 layout, mouth 2 drawings, do some camera move to add depth

0:17 pose to pose and in-betweened, positive things: nice camera move

0:18 Imaishi gun shooting

0:19 wide Imaishi angle, a few mouth key drawings

0:20 decent Amemiya (Kamina and Viral sword fight stuff)

0:20 hand is going down and shit

0:21 just a hand

0:23 finally something interesting, looks like Imaishi and Yoshinari had a baby.

>>871
Then Bahi is the karisuma-est.

Havin a consistent art style isn't a bad thing. I'm not sure why people acting that stupid here.
Espencially if the show is already stylized as fuck.

If you want different styles for all cuts Yozakura Quartet will have it.

Space Dandy PV looks also pretty consistent for all the talk about total freedom.

Space Dandy PV sakuga analysis

0:13 super speed spaceships, decent but layout looks beautiful

0:15 decent face animation of Dandy,

0:16 cool layout

0:17 nice layout and cinematography angle, animation is ok

0:18: great mouth animation

0:19 cool eye, looks like Hisashi Mori

0:20 layout

0:21 yutapon feeling

0:22 Yutapon is approaching, get ready

0:24 stylish Yutapon  gun shoot with some very interesting shadow shades.

0:21 Spaceship smoke madness

0:33 Space Ship is moving chilled like a NES game through all the laser beams

0:34 BOOBIES that's what you want, right?

0:35 BOOTIES

0:39 TITTIES

0:40 hot chick

0:41 Dandy is a horny male species

0:42 Dandy's robot is a piece of shit, but I like him because of that

0:43 Miau is also a horny space cat

0:45 lots of aliens

0:46 waiting to get beamed?  layout

0:50 lots of cool layout, nice alien animations and Yutapon stuff in-between.

0:56 very well animated boobies

1:00 Drugs, we are going nuts now

1:02 Dynamic running, beautiful colors, Gosei Oda

1:04 very cool shooting, great timing

1:09 mechanical animations

1:19 great Yutapon

1:21 decent

1:22 great running animation, Yutapon?

1:27 very nice layout

1:29 again very nice layout and cool detailed monsters

1:33 Cool and funny animation,  Yutapon

1:36 beautiful shading

1:37 beautiful layout

1:40 very expressive Dandy head

1:50 big layout of beautiful and colorful space