No, no. Call things out for what they are. Few people are like that. The man has my appreciation for not being a pussyfaggot who hides truth behind politeness.
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Anonymous2013-03-24 15:24
>>846
How is saying "everything ever is a piece of shit" calling things for what they are?
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Anonymous2013-03-24 16:59
So SSY seems to not sell that much (shit)
What about psycho pass ?
>>848
You're better off asking this on /a/, this is the animation thread after all. Psycho-Pass is selling alright, around 7k sales I think.
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Anonymous2013-03-24 17:06
You are right , sorry dude(thanks for the sales )
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Anonymous2013-03-24 17:16
>>847
Because everything ever is a piece of shit, duh.
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Anonymous2013-03-24 20:19
>>847
To be fair though, American animation is completely awful right now. No theatrical works will ever be made and most TV cartoons are horrible flash based piles of craps.
TV anime is also mostly crap, but animation in theatrical anime works does shine.
But western animators would probably never admit this since Japanese animation is "inferior"
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Anonymous2013-03-24 20:57
when i saw SSY's finale , the beginning , i just can't compare this to western cartoons
this kind of EPIC , you'll never see that in stupid western cartoons
This old dude need to see some gundam unicorn before his end.
And yeah western animators are funny , they said japan is shit and they steal their animation techniques shameless , i'm kinda proud of not working with them right now.
Stupid ass holes
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Anonymous2013-03-24 21:23
I would think that with these kind of threads one would be more more open and tolerant, after all, animation is animation, be it from America, Russia or Japan.
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Anonymous2013-03-24 21:26
I'm tolerant , i love a lot of different technique of various animators
Excessive detail is the cancer killing animation(and animators)
Miyazaki seems to not like the process of cel animation that much, I wonder what does he think about digital animation then?
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Anonymous2013-03-25 7:33
>>859
IIRC he took it up with open arms and incorporated some digital work into Princess Mononoke.
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Anonymous2013-03-25 7:48
>>854
Oh I'm tolerant, but I'm not tolerant of people who are intolerant.
I mean American animation has loads of great work, LOADS. Even European animation has many greats. Sure we may not talk much about it here since we're more about sakuga and anime but I think most people acknowledge their worth.
>>859
Well, the fewer lines there in one sheet to another then the easier it is for the animator to ease their workload. But I think the excessive detailed character designs in some newer TV anime shows has forced animators to really put the "2nd Key Animation" job into full power. 1st KA's will do the layout and rough poses then the 2ndKA animator will come along and fill in all the other details such as the clothing and accessories. Only then will it be passed on over to be inbetweened.
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Anonymous2013-03-25 7:53
Inbetweeners have all my sympathy. Best work in the world, shittiest job ever. No wonder so many people are looking for ways to properly automate the process.
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Anonymous2013-03-25 8:27
A really bad drawing can become tolerable when it is made into a cel picture, and a good drawing loses its power when it is made into a cel. In short, cels make both good and bad into mediocre
I agreed with this.
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Anonymous2013-03-25 8:53
Cel animation confirmed for old and busted
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Anonymous2013-03-25 9:04
Does it really matter if it was done on cels or digitally? Jin-Roh and Blood still look great.
The latter is still my favorite thing in terms of digital post processing.
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Anonymous2013-03-25 9:09
Japanese animation started when we gave up moving.
>>861
I know , i never said that americans and europe can't draw
I just can't stand someone wich insult japanese while he is blatantly using their animation technique !!!
That's what i'm talking about.
SOme of them think they are superior , it's really annoying to live with people like that , believe me
But yeah there is great animators outside asia , of course.
>>867
It wasn't /that/ amazing. There are probably better examples of recent character animation (Wolf Children, A Letter to Momo, Niji-Iro Hotaru etc..)
>>873
2d animator is my specialty
I'm a freelance right now
I stopped animation a while and did some video game character animation , it's kinda refreshing ? i dont know
I could go back to animation soon , but honestly i heard some "so called animators" talking and i swear , you wonder yourself if the guy is trolling or not...
Anyway sorry if i was angry (i kinda lost a contract yesterday , very annoying feeling)
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