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Name: Anonymous 2014-02-18 11:23

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Lets try this again, shall we?

Feel free to talk about animation here.

Name: Anonymous 2014-02-18 11:43

Dandy so good

Name: Anonymous 2014-02-18 14:04

People may have praised Yozakura Quartet's animation, but I didn't like it all that much. It often felt unnatural/unnecessary. I'm not saying the rest of the show should've been poorly animated, but I like it better when great animation is used exclusively in scenes that require a lot of action (this isn't exclusive to fighting. could be a chase, dance, or whatever) or scenes that are key moments in the story. A big reason why I can't enjoy ecchi anime and prefer to read the manga instead is the scenes they obviously focus on in terms of animation. It just comes off as obnoxious.

Name: Anonymous 2014-02-18 20:50

>>3
Much of the scenes with good animation in Yozakura Quartet are action-heavy though.

Name: Anonymous 2014-02-27 4:03

Oh the thread was recreated here, thankfully. I hope the non-autists will check here.

Name: Anonymous 2014-02-27 5:18

Potential sakuga anime for spring 2014:

Ping Pong
Captain Earth
Mahouka

Anything else?

Name: Anonymous 2014-02-27 10:45

>>6
Hitsugi no Chaika
Mushishi
Break Blade
Tamako Love Story

Name: Anonymous 2014-02-27 18:11

I really liked Aiura's animation. Even though it looked dull and dim it had something very comfy to it.

Name: Anonymous 2014-02-28 0:44

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-01 1:11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV2t70y2kaE

馬越嘉彦(Yoshihiko Umakoshi)MAD

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-01 6:57

>>7
>Break Blade

They're just reusing the movie footage right?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-01 11:39

>>11
Pretty sure it does.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-02 11:23

Hey, weeaboo scum, what kind of bullshit is that?

I'm sure I said you will never talk about animation again, didn't I? FUCK OFF TO IRC, YOU SUBHUMAN TRASH

>>5
I hope the non-autists will check here

But the autists are already here (not me). Ask the german retards from aniPodium how long they follow each step of mine already, unsuccessful though

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-02 11:25

Och, habt ihr mich gebannt, ihr Süßen. Wieviele waren dafür nötig, das ganze Forum?

So ein Pech aber auch, dass ich wie immer dennoch am Ende als Sieger dastehe und ihr absolut nichts gegen mich ausrichten könnt. Immer erst denken, dann handeln, ihr Vollidioten

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-02 11:29

From the other thread, the Alien review from Roger. Essential for every Sabuga fag

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-02 11:30

At its most fundamental level, "Alien" is a movie about things that can jump out of the dark and kill you. It shares a kinship with the shark in "Jaws," Michael Myers in "Halloween," and assorted spiders, snakes, tarantulas and stalkers. Its most obvious influence is Howard Hawks' "The Thing" (1951), which was also about a team in an isolated outpost who discover a long-dormant alien, bring it inside, and are picked off one by one as it haunts the corridors. Look at that movie, and you see "Alien" in embryo.

In another way, Ridley Scott's 1979 movie is a great original. It builds on the seminal opening shot of "Star Wars" (1977), with its vast ship in lonely interstellar space, and sidesteps Lucas' space opera to tell a story in the genre of traditional "hard" science fiction; with its tough-talking crew members and their mercenary motives, the story would have found a home in John W. Campbell's Astounding Science Fiction during its nuts-and-bolts period in the 1940s. Campbell loved stories in which engineers and scientists, not space jockeys and ray-gun blasters, dealt with outer space in logical ways.

Certainly the character of Ripley, played by Sigourney Weaver, would have appealed to readers in the Golden Age of Science Fiction. She has little interest in the romance of finding the alien, and still less in her employer's orders that it be brought back home as a potential weapon. After she sees what it can do, her response to "Special Order 24" ("Return alien lifeform, all other priorities rescinded") is succinct: "How do we kill it?" Her implacable hatred for the alien is the common thread running through all three "Alien" sequels, which have gradually descended in quality but retained their motivating obsession.

One of the great strengths of "Alien" is its pacing. It takes its time. It waits. It allows silences (the majestic opening shots are underscored by Jerry Goldsmith with scarcely audible, far-off metallic chatterings). It suggests the enormity of the crew's discovery by building up to it with small steps: The interception of a signal (is it a warning or an SOS?). The descent to the extraterrestrial surface. The bitching by Brett and Parker, who are concerned only about collecting their shares. The masterstroke of the surface murk through which the crew members move, their helmet lights hardly penetrating the soup. The shadowy outline of the alien ship. The sight of the alien pilot, frozen in his command chair. The enormity of the discovery inside the ship ("It's full of ... leathery eggs ...").

A recent version of this story would have hurtled toward the part where the alien jumps on the crew members. Today's slasher movies, in the sci-fi genre and elsewhere, are all pay-off and no buildup. Consider the wretched remake of the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which cheats its audience out of an explanation, an introduction of the chain-saw family, and even a proper ending. It isn't the slashing that we enjoy. It's the waiting for the slashing.

Hitchcock knew this, with his famous example of a bomb under a table. (It goes off -- that's action. It doesn't go off -- that's suspense.) M. Night Shyamalan's "Signs" knew that, and hardly bothered with its aliens at all. And the best scenes in Hawks' "The Thing" involve the empty corridors of the Antarctic station where the Thing might be lurking.

"Alien" uses a tricky device to keep the alien fresh throughout the movie: It evolves the nature and appearance of the creature, so we never know quite what it looks like or what it can do. We assume at first the eggs will produce a humanoid, because that's the form of the petrified pilot on the long-lost alien ship. But of course we don't even know if the pilot is of the same race as his cargo of leathery eggs. Maybe he also considers them as a weapon. The first time we get a good look at the alien, as it bursts from the chest of poor Kane (John Hurt). It is unmistakably phallic in shape, and the critic Tim Dirks mentions its "open, dripping vaginal mouth."

Yes, but later, as we glimpse it during a series of attacks, it no longer assumes this shape at all, but looks octopod, reptilian or arachnoid. And then it uncorks another secret; the fluid dripping from its body is a "universal solvent," and there is a sequence both frightening and delightful as it eats its way through one deck of the ship after another. As the sequels ("Aliens," "Alien 3," "Alien Resurrection") will make all too abundantly clear, the alien is capable of being just about any monster the story requires. Because it doesn't play by any rules of appearance or behavior, it becomes an amorphous menace, haunting the ship with the specter of shape-shifting evil. Ash (Ian Holm), the science officer, calls it a "perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility," and admits: "I admire its purity, its sense of survival; unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality."

Sigourney Weaver, whose career would be linked for years to this strange creature, is of course the only survivor of this original crew, except for the ... cat. The producers must have hoped for a sequel, and by killing everyone except a woman, they cast their lot with a female lead for their series.

Variety noted a few years later that Weaver remained the only actress who could "open" an action movie, and it was a tribute to her versatility that she could play the hard, competent, ruthless Ripley and then double back for so many other kinds of roles. One of the reasons she works so well in the role is that she comes across as smart; the 1979 "Alien" is a much more cerebral movie than its sequels, with the characters (and the audience) genuinely engaged in curiosity about this weirdest of lifeforms.

A peculiarity of the rest of the actors is that none of them were particularly young. Tom Skerritt, the captain, was 46, Hurt was 39 but looked older, Holm was 48, Harry Dean Stanton was 53, Yaphet Kotto was 42, and only Veronica Cartwright at 29 and Weaver at 30 were in the age range of the usual thriller cast. Many recent action pictures have improbably young actors cast as key roles or sidekicks, but by skewing older, "Alien" achieves a certain texture without even making a point of it: These are not adventurers but workers, hired by a company to return 20 million tons of ore to Earth (the vast size of the ship is indicated in a deleted scene, included on the DVD, which takes nearly a minute just to show it passing).

The screenplay by Dan O'Bannon, based on a story he wrote with Ronald Shusett, allows these characters to speak in distinctive voices. Brett and Parker (Kotto and Stanton), who work in the engine room, complain about delays and worry about their cut of the profits. But listen to Ash: "I'm still collating it, actually, but I have confirmed that he's got an outer layer of protein polysaccharides. He has a funny habit of shedding his cells and replacing them with polarized silicon which gives him a prolonged resistance to adverse environmental conditions." And then there is Ripley's direct way of cutting to the bottom line.

The result is a film that absorbs us in a mission before it involves us in an adventure, and that consistently engages the alien with curiosity and logic, instead of simply firing at it. Contrast this movie with a latter-day space opera like "Armageddon," with its average shot a few seconds long and its dialogue reduced to terse statements telegraphing the plot. Much of the credit for "Alien" must go to director Ridley Scott, who had made only one major film before this, the cerebral, elegant "The Duelists" (1977). His next film would be another intelligent, visionary sci-fi epic, "Blade Runner" (1982).

Though his career has included some inexplicable clinkers ("Someone To Watch Over Me,") it has also included "Thelma & Louise," "G.I. Jane," "Gladiator" (unloved by me, but not by audiences), "Black Hawk Down" and "Matchstick Men." These are simultaneously commercial and intelligent projects, made by a director who wants to attract a large audience but doesn't care to insult it.

"Alien" has been called the most influential of modern action pictures, and so it is, although "Halloween" also belongs on the list. Unfortunately, the films it influenced studied its thrills but not its thinking. We have now descended into a bog of Gotcha! movies in which various horrible beings spring on a series of victims, usually teenagers. The ultimate extension of the genre is the Geek Movie, illustrated by the remake of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which essentially sets the audience the same test as an old-time carnival geek show: Now that you've paid your money, can you keep your eyes open while we disgust you? A few more ambitious and serious sci-fi films have also followed in the footsteps of "Alien," notably the well-made "Aliens" (1986) and "Dark City" (1998). But the original still vibrates with a dark and frightening intensity.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-02 11:31

At its most fundamental level, "Alien" is a movie about things that can jump out of the dark and kill you. It shares a kinship with the shark in "Jaws," Michael Myers in "Halloween," and assorted spiders, snakes, tarantulas and stalkers. Its most obvious influence is Howard Hawks' "The Thing" (1951), which was also about a team in an isolated outpost who discover a long-dormant alien, bring it inside, and are picked off one by one as it haunts the corridors. Look at that movie, and you see "Alien" in embryo.

In another way, Ridley Scott's 1979 movie is a great original. It builds on the seminal opening shot of "Star Wars" (1977), with its vast ship in lonely interstellar space, and sidesteps Lucas' space opera to tell a story in the genre of traditional "hard" science fiction; with its tough-talking crew members and their mercenary motives, the story would have found a home in John W. Campbell's Astounding Science Fiction during its nuts-and-bolts period in the 1940s. Campbell loved stories in which engineers and scientists, not space jockeys and ray-gun blasters, dealt with outer space in logical ways.

Certainly the character of Ripley, played by Sigourney Weaver, would have appealed to readers in the Golden Age of Science Fiction. She has little interest in the romance of finding the alien, and still less in her employer's orders that it be brought back home as a potential weapon. After she sees what it can do, her response to "Special Order 24" ("Return alien lifeform, all other priorities rescinded") is succinct: "How do we kill it?" Her implacable hatred for the alien is the common thread running through all three "Alien" sequels, which have gradually descended in quality but retained their motivating obsession.

One of the great strengths of "Alien" is its pacing. It takes its time. It waits. It allows silences (the majestic opening shots are underscored by Jerry Goldsmith with scarcely audible, far-off metallic chatterings). It suggests the enormity of the crew's discovery by building up to it with small steps: The interception of a signal (is it a warning or an SOS?). The descent to the extraterrestrial surface. The bitching by Brett and Parker, who are concerned only about collecting their shares. The masterstroke of the surface murk through which the crew members move, their helmet lights hardly penetrating the soup. The shadowy outline of the alien ship. The sight of the alien pilot, frozen in his command chair. The enormity of the discovery inside the ship ("It's full of ... leathery eggs ...").

A recent version of this story would have hurtled toward the part where the alien jumps on the crew members. Today's slasher movies, in the sci-fi genre and elsewhere, are all pay-off and no buildup. Consider the wretched remake of the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which cheats its audience out of an explanation, an introduction of the chain-saw family, and even a proper ending. It isn't the slashing that we enjoy. It's the waiting for the slashing.

Hitchcock knew this, with his famous example of a bomb under a table. (It goes off -- that's action. It doesn't go off -- that's suspense.) M. Night Shyamalan's "Signs" knew that, and hardly bothered with its aliens at all. And the best scenes in Hawks' "The Thing" involve the empty corridors of the Antarctic station where the Thing might be lurking.

"Alien" uses a tricky device to keep the alien fresh throughout the movie: It evolves the nature and appearance of the creature, so we never know quite what it looks like or what it can do. We assume at first the eggs will produce a humanoid, because that's the form of the petrified pilot on the long-lost alien ship. But of course we don't even know if the pilot is of the same race as his cargo of leathery eggs. Maybe he also considers them as a weapon. The first time we get a good look at the alien, as it bursts from the chest of poor Kane (John Hurt). It is unmistakably phallic in shape, and the critic Tim Dirks mentions its "open, dripping vaginal mouth."

Yes, but later, as we glimpse it during a series of attacks, it no longer assumes this shape at all, but looks octopod, reptilian or arachnoid. And then it uncorks another secret; the fluid dripping from its body is a "universal solvent," and there is a sequence both frightening and delightful as it eats its way through one deck of the ship after another. As the sequels ("Aliens," "Alien 3," "Alien Resurrection") will make all too abundantly clear, the alien is capable of being just about any monster the story requires. Because it doesn't play by any rules of appearance or behavior, it becomes an amorphous menace, haunting the ship with the specter of shape-shifting evil. Ash (Ian Holm), the science officer, calls it a "perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility," and admits: "I admire its purity, its sense of survival; unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality."

Sigourney Weaver, whose career would be linked for years to this strange creature, is of course the only survivor of this original crew, except for the ... cat. The producers must have hoped for a sequel, and by killing everyone except a woman, they cast their lot with a female lead for their series.

Variety noted a few years later that Weaver remained the only actress who could "open" an action movie, and it was a tribute to her versatility that she could play the hard, competent, ruthless Ripley and then double back for so many other kinds of roles. One of the reasons she works so well in the role is that she comes across as smart; the 1979 "Alien" is a much more cerebral movie than its sequels, with the characters (and the audience) genuinely engaged in curiosity about this weirdest of lifeforms.

A peculiarity of the rest of the actors is that none of them were particularly young. Tom Skerritt, the captain, was 46, Hurt was 39 but looked older, Holm was 48, Harry Dean Stanton was 53, Yaphet Kotto was 42, and only Veronica Cartwright at 29 and Weaver at 30 were in the age range of the usual thriller cast. Many recent action pictures have improbably young actors cast as key roles or sidekicks, but by skewing older, "Alien" achieves a certain texture without even making a point of it: These are not adventurers but workers, hired by a company to return 20 million tons of ore to Earth (the vast size of the ship is indicated in a deleted scene, included on the DVD, which takes nearly a minute just to show it passing).

The screenplay by Dan O'Bannon, based on a story he wrote with Ronald Shusett, allows these characters to speak in distinctive voices. Brett and Parker (Kotto and Stanton), who work in the engine room, complain about delays and worry about their cut of the profits. But listen to Ash: "I'm still collating it, actually, but I have confirmed that he's got an outer layer of protein polysaccharides. He has a funny habit of shedding his cells and replacing them with polarized silicon which gives him a prolonged resistance to adverse environmental conditions." And then there is Ripley's direct way of cutting to the bottom line.

The result is a film that absorbs us in a mission before it involves us in an adventure, and that consistently engages the alien with curiosity and logic, instead of simply firing at it. Contrast this movie with a latter-day space opera like "Armageddon," with its average shot a few seconds long and its dialogue reduced to terse statements telegraphing the plot. Much of the credit for "Alien" must go to director Ridley Scott, who had made only one major film before this, the cerebral, elegant "The Duelists" (1977). His next film would be another intelligent, visionary sci-fi epic, "Blade Runner" (1982).

Though his career has included some inexplicable clinkers ("Someone To Watch Over Me,") it has also included "Thelma & Louise," "G.I. Jane," "Gladiator" (unloved by me, but not by audiences), "Black Hawk Down" and "Matchstick Men." These are simultaneously commercial and intelligent projects, made by a director who wants to attract a large audience but doesn't care to insult it.

"Alien" has been called the most influential of modern action pictures, and so it is, although "Halloween" also belongs on the list. Unfortunately, the films it influenced studied its thrills but not its thinking. We have now descended into a bog of Gotcha! movies in which various horrible beings spring on a series of victims, usually teenagers. The ultimate extension of the genre is the Geek Movie, illustrated by the remake of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which essentially sets the audience the same test as an old-time carnival geek show: Now that you've paid your money, can you keep your eyes open while we disgust you? A few more ambitious and serious sci-fi films have also followed in the footsteps of "Alien," notably the well-made "Aliens" (1986) and "Dark City" (1998). But the original still vibrates with a dark and frightening intensity.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-02 11:31

At its most fundamental level, "Alien" is a movie about things that can jump out of the dark and kill you. It shares a kinship with the shark in "Jaws," Michael Myers in "Halloween," and assorted spiders, snakes, tarantulas and stalkers. Its most obvious influence is Howard Hawks' "The Thing" (1951), which was also about a team in an isolated outpost who discover a long-dormant alien, bring it inside, and are picked off one by one as it haunts the corridors. Look at that movie, and you see "Alien" in embryo.

In another way, Ridley Scott's 1979 movie is a great original. It builds on the seminal opening shot of "Star Wars" (1977), with its vast ship in lonely interstellar space, and sidesteps Lucas' space opera to tell a story in the genre of traditional "hard" science fiction; with its tough-talking crew members and their mercenary motives, the story would have found a home in John W. Campbell's Astounding Science Fiction during its nuts-and-bolts period in the 1940s. Campbell loved stories in which engineers and scientists, not space jockeys and ray-gun blasters, dealt with outer space in logical ways.

Certainly the character of Ripley, played by Sigourney Weaver, would have appealed to readers in the Golden Age of Science Fiction. She has little interest in the romance of finding the alien, and still less in her employer's orders that it be brought back home as a potential weapon. After she sees what it can do, her response to "Special Order 24" ("Return alien lifeform, all other priorities rescinded") is succinct: "How do we kill it?" Her implacable hatred for the alien is the common thread running through all three "Alien" sequels, which have gradually descended in quality but retained their motivating obsession.

One of the great strengths of "Alien" is its pacing. It takes its time. It waits. It allows silences (the majestic opening shots are underscored by Jerry Goldsmith with scarcely audible, far-off metallic chatterings). It suggests the enormity of the crew's discovery by building up to it with small steps: The interception of a signal (is it a warning or an SOS?). The descent to the extraterrestrial surface. The bitching by Brett and Parker, who are concerned only about collecting their shares. The masterstroke of the surface murk through which the crew members move, their helmet lights hardly penetrating the soup. The shadowy outline of the alien ship. The sight of the alien pilot, frozen in his command chair. The enormity of the discovery inside the ship ("It's full of ... leathery eggs ...").

A recent version of this story would have hurtled toward the part where the alien jumps on the crew members. Today's slasher movies, in the sci-fi genre and elsewhere, are all pay-off and no buildup. Consider the wretched remake of the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which cheats its audience out of an explanation, an introduction of the chain-saw family, and even a proper ending. It isn't the slashing that we enjoy. It's the waiting for the slashing.

Hitchcock knew this, with his famous example of a bomb under a table. (It goes off -- that's action. It doesn't go off -- that's suspense.) M. Night Shyamalan's "Signs" knew that, and hardly bothered with its aliens at all. And the best scenes in Hawks' "The Thing" involve the empty corridors of the Antarctic station where the Thing might be lurking.

"Alien" uses a tricky device to keep the alien fresh throughout the movie: It evolves the nature and appearance of the creature, so we never know quite what it looks like or what it can do. We assume at first the eggs will produce a humanoid, because that's the form of the petrified pilot on the long-lost alien ship. But of course we don't even know if the pilot is of the same race as his cargo of leathery eggs. Maybe he also considers them as a weapon. The first time we get a good look at the alien, as it bursts from the chest of poor Kane (John Hurt). It is unmistakably phallic in shape, and the critic Tim Dirks mentions its "open, dripping vaginal mouth."

Yes, but later, as we glimpse it during a series of attacks, it no longer assumes this shape at all, but looks octopod, reptilian or arachnoid. And then it uncorks another secret; the fluid dripping from its body is a "universal solvent," and there is a sequence both frightening and delightful as it eats its way through one deck of the ship after another. As the sequels ("Aliens," "Alien 3," "Alien Resurrection") will make all too abundantly clear, the alien is capable of being just about any monster the story requires. Because it doesn't play by any rules of appearance or behavior, it becomes an amorphous menace, haunting the ship with the specter of shape-shifting evil. Ash (Ian Holm), the science officer, calls it a "perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility," and admits: "I admire its purity, its sense of survival; unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality."

Sigourney Weaver, whose career would be linked for years to this strange creature, is of course the only survivor of this original crew, except for the ... cat. The producers must have hoped for a sequel, and by killing everyone except a woman, they cast their lot with a female lead for their series.

Variety noted a few years later that Weaver remained the only actress who could "open" an action movie, and it was a tribute to her versatility that she could play the hard, competent, ruthless Ripley and then double back for so many other kinds of roles. One of the reasons she works so well in the role is that she comes across as smart; the 1979 "Alien" is a much more cerebral movie than its sequels, with the characters (and the audience) genuinely engaged in curiosity about this weirdest of lifeforms.

A peculiarity of the rest of the actors is that none of them were particularly young. Tom Skerritt, the captain, was 46, Hurt was 39 but looked older, Holm was 48, Harry Dean Stanton was 53, Yaphet Kotto was 42, and only Veronica Cartwright at 29 and Weaver at 30 were in the age range of the usual thriller cast. Many recent action pictures have improbably young actors cast as key roles or sidekicks, but by skewing older, "Alien" achieves a certain texture without even making a point of it: These are not adventurers but workers, hired by a company to return 20 million tons of ore to Earth (the vast size of the ship is indicated in a deleted scene, included on the DVD, which takes nearly a minute just to show it passing).

The screenplay by Dan O'Bannon, based on a story he wrote with Ronald Shusett, allows these characters to speak in distinctive voices. Brett and Parker (Kotto and Stanton), who work in the engine room, complain about delays and worry about their cut of the profits. But listen to Ash: "I'm still collating it, actually, but I have confirmed that he's got an outer layer of protein polysaccharides. He has a funny habit of shedding his cells and replacing them with polarized silicon which gives him a prolonged resistance to adverse environmental conditions." And then there is Ripley's direct way of cutting to the bottom line.

The result is a film that absorbs us in a mission before it involves us in an adventure, and that consistently engages the alien with curiosity and logic, instead of simply firing at it. Contrast this movie with a latter-day space opera like "Armageddon," with its average shot a few seconds long and its dialogue reduced to terse statements telegraphing the plot. Much of the credit for "Alien" must go to director Ridley Scott, who had made only one major film before this, the cerebral, elegant "The Duelists" (1977). His next film would be another intelligent, visionary sci-fi epic, "Blade Runner" (1982).

Though his career has included some inexplicable clinkers ("Someone To Watch Over Me,") it has also included "Thelma & Louise," "G.I. Jane," "Gladiator" (unloved by me, but not by audiences), "Black Hawk Down" and "Matchstick Men." These are simultaneously commercial and intelligent projects, made by a director who wants to attract a large audience but doesn't care to insult it.

"Alien" has been called the most influential of modern action pictures, and so it is, although "Halloween" also belongs on the list. Unfortunately, the films it influenced studied its thrills but not its thinking. We have now descended into a bog of Gotcha! movies in which various horrible beings spring on a series of victims, usually teenagers. The ultimate extension of the genre is the Geek Movie, illustrated by the remake of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which essentially sets the audience the same test as an old-time carnival geek show: Now that you've paid your money, can you keep your eyes open while we disgust you? A few more ambitious and serious sci-fi films have also followed in the footsteps of "Alien," notably the well-made "Aliens" (1986) and "Dark City" (1998). But the original still vibrates with a dark and frightening intensity.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-02 11:31

At its most fundamental level, "Alien" is a movie about things that can jump out of the dark and kill you. It shares a kinship with the shark in "Jaws," Michael Myers in "Halloween," and assorted spiders, snakes, tarantulas and stalkers. Its most obvious influence is Howard Hawks' "The Thing" (1951), which was also about a team in an isolated outpost who discover a long-dormant alien, bring it inside, and are picked off one by one as it haunts the corridors. Look at that movie, and you see "Alien" in embryo.

In another way, Ridley Scott's 1979 movie is a great original. It builds on the seminal opening shot of "Star Wars" (1977), with its vast ship in lonely interstellar space, and sidesteps Lucas' space opera to tell a story in the genre of traditional "hard" science fiction; with its tough-talking crew members and their mercenary motives, the story would have found a home in John W. Campbell's Astounding Science Fiction during its nuts-and-bolts period in the 1940s. Campbell loved stories in which engineers and scientists, not space jockeys and ray-gun blasters, dealt with outer space in logical ways.

Certainly the character of Ripley, played by Sigourney Weaver, would have appealed to readers in the Golden Age of Science Fiction. She has little interest in the romance of finding the alien, and still less in her employer's orders that it be brought back home as a potential weapon. After she sees what it can do, her response to "Special Order 24" ("Return alien lifeform, all other priorities rescinded") is succinct: "How do we kill it?" Her implacable hatred for the alien is the common thread running through all three "Alien" sequels, which have gradually descended in quality but retained their motivating obsession.

One of the great strengths of "Alien" is its pacing. It takes its time. It waits. It allows silences (the majestic opening shots are underscored by Jerry Goldsmith with scarcely audible, far-off metallic chatterings). It suggests the enormity of the crew's discovery by building up to it with small steps: The interception of a signal (is it a warning or an SOS?). The descent to the extraterrestrial surface. The bitching by Brett and Parker, who are concerned only about collecting their shares. The masterstroke of the surface murk through which the crew members move, their helmet lights hardly penetrating the soup. The shadowy outline of the alien ship. The sight of the alien pilot, frozen in his command chair. The enormity of the discovery inside the ship ("It's full of ... leathery eggs ...").

A recent version of this story would have hurtled toward the part where the alien jumps on the crew members. Today's slasher movies, in the sci-fi genre and elsewhere, are all pay-off and no buildup. Consider the wretched remake of the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which cheats its audience out of an explanation, an introduction of the chain-saw family, and even a proper ending. It isn't the slashing that we enjoy. It's the waiting for the slashing.

Hitchcock knew this, with his famous example of a bomb under a table. (It goes off -- that's action. It doesn't go off -- that's suspense.) M. Night Shyamalan's "Signs" knew that, and hardly bothered with its aliens at all. And the best scenes in Hawks' "The Thing" involve the empty corridors of the Antarctic station where the Thing might be lurking.

"Alien" uses a tricky device to keep the alien fresh throughout the movie: It evolves the nature and appearance of the creature, so we never know quite what it looks like or what it can do. We assume at first the eggs will produce a humanoid, because that's the form of the petrified pilot on the long-lost alien ship. But of course we don't even know if the pilot is of the same race as his cargo of leathery eggs. Maybe he also considers them as a weapon. The first time we get a good look at the alien, as it bursts from the chest of poor Kane (John Hurt). It is unmistakably phallic in shape, and the critic Tim Dirks mentions its "open, dripping vaginal mouth."

Yes, but later, as we glimpse it during a series of attacks, it no longer assumes this shape at all, but looks octopod, reptilian or arachnoid. And then it uncorks another secret; the fluid dripping from its body is a "universal solvent," and there is a sequence both frightening and delightful as it eats its way through one deck of the ship after another. As the sequels ("Aliens," "Alien 3," "Alien Resurrection") will make all too abundantly clear, the alien is capable of being just about any monster the story requires. Because it doesn't play by any rules of appearance or behavior, it becomes an amorphous menace, haunting the ship with the specter of shape-shifting evil. Ash (Ian Holm), the science officer, calls it a "perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility," and admits: "I admire its purity, its sense of survival; unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality."

Sigourney Weaver, whose career would be linked for years to this strange creature, is of course the only survivor of this original crew, except for the ... cat. The producers must have hoped for a sequel, and by killing everyone except a woman, they cast their lot with a female lead for their series.

Variety noted a few years later that Weaver remained the only actress who could "open" an action movie, and it was a tribute to her versatility that she could play the hard, competent, ruthless Ripley and then double back for so many other kinds of roles. One of the reasons she works so well in the role is that she comes across as smart; the 1979 "Alien" is a much more cerebral movie than its sequels, with the characters (and the audience) genuinely engaged in curiosity about this weirdest of lifeforms.

A peculiarity of the rest of the actors is that none of them were particularly young. Tom Skerritt, the captain, was 46, Hurt was 39 but looked older, Holm was 48, Harry Dean Stanton was 53, Yaphet Kotto was 42, and only Veronica Cartwright at 29 and Weaver at 30 were in the age range of the usual thriller cast. Many recent action pictures have improbably young actors cast as key roles or sidekicks, but by skewing older, "Alien" achieves a certain texture without even making a point of it: These are not adventurers but workers, hired by a company to return 20 million tons of ore to Earth (the vast size of the ship is indicated in a deleted scene, included on the DVD, which takes nearly a minute just to show it passing).

The screenplay by Dan O'Bannon, based on a story he wrote with Ronald Shusett, allows these characters to speak in distinctive voices. Brett and Parker (Kotto and Stanton), who work in the engine room, complain about delays and worry about their cut of the profits. But listen to Ash: "I'm still collating it, actually, but I have confirmed that he's got an outer layer of protein polysaccharides. He has a funny habit of shedding his cells and replacing them with polarized silicon which gives him a prolonged resistance to adverse environmental conditions." And then there is Ripley's direct way of cutting to the bottom line.

The result is a film that absorbs us in a mission before it involves us in an adventure, and that consistently engages the alien with curiosity and logic, instead of simply firing at it. Contrast this movie with a latter-day space opera like "Armageddon," with its average shot a few seconds long and its dialogue reduced to terse statements telegraphing the plot. Much of the credit for "Alien" must go to director Ridley Scott, who had made only one major film before this, the cerebral, elegant "The Duelists" (1977). His next film would be another intelligent, visionary sci-fi epic, "Blade Runner" (1982).

Though his career has included some inexplicable clinkers ("Someone To Watch Over Me,") it has also included "Thelma & Louise," "G.I. Jane," "Gladiator" (unloved by me, but not by audiences), "Black Hawk Down" and "Matchstick Men." These are simultaneously commercial and intelligent projects, made by a director who wants to attract a large audience but doesn't care to insult it.

"Alien" has been called the most influential of modern action pictures, and so it is, although "Halloween" also belongs on the list. Unfortunately, the films it influenced studied its thrills but not its thinking. We have now descended into a bog of Gotcha! movies in which various horrible beings spring on a series of victims, usually teenagers. The ultimate extension of the genre is the Geek Movie, illustrated by the remake of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which essentially sets the audience the same test as an old-time carnival geek show: Now that you've paid your money, can you keep your eyes open while we disgust you? A few more ambitious and serious sci-fi films have also followed in the footsteps of "Alien," notably the well-made "Aliens" (1986) and "Dark City" (1998). But the original still vibrates with a dark and frightening intensity.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-02 11:32

At its most fundamental level, "Alien" is a movie about things that can jump out of the dark and kill you. It shares a kinship with the shark in "Jaws," Michael Myers in "Halloween," and assorted spiders, snakes, tarantulas and stalkers. Its most obvious influence is Howard Hawks' "The Thing" (1951), which was also about a team in an isolated outpost who discover a long-dormant alien, bring it inside, and are picked off one by one as it haunts the corridors. Look at that movie, and you see "Alien" in embryo.

In another way, Ridley Scott's 1979 movie is a great original. It builds on the seminal opening shot of "Star Wars" (1977), with its vast ship in lonely interstellar space, and sidesteps Lucas' space opera to tell a story in the genre of traditional "hard" science fiction; with its tough-talking crew members and their mercenary motives, the story would have found a home in John W. Campbell's Astounding Science Fiction during its nuts-and-bolts period in the 1940s. Campbell loved stories in which engineers and scientists, not space jockeys and ray-gun blasters, dealt with outer space in logical ways.

Certainly the character of Ripley, played by Sigourney Weaver, would have appealed to readers in the Golden Age of Science Fiction. She has little interest in the romance of finding the alien, and still less in her employer's orders that it be brought back home as a potential weapon. After she sees what it can do, her response to "Special Order 24" ("Return alien lifeform, all other priorities rescinded") is succinct: "How do we kill it?" Her implacable hatred for the alien is the common thread running through all three "Alien" sequels, which have gradually descended in quality but retained their motivating obsession.

One of the great strengths of "Alien" is its pacing. It takes its time. It waits. It allows silences (the majestic opening shots are underscored by Jerry Goldsmith with scarcely audible, far-off metallic chatterings). It suggests the enormity of the crew's discovery by building up to it with small steps: The interception of a signal (is it a warning or an SOS?). The descent to the extraterrestrial surface. The bitching by Brett and Parker, who are concerned only about collecting their shares. The masterstroke of the surface murk through which the crew members move, their helmet lights hardly penetrating the soup. The shadowy outline of the alien ship. The sight of the alien pilot, frozen in his command chair. The enormity of the discovery inside the ship ("It's full of ... leathery eggs ...").

A recent version of this story would have hurtled toward the part where the alien jumps on the crew members. Today's slasher movies, in the sci-fi genre and elsewhere, are all pay-off and no buildup. Consider the wretched remake of the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which cheats its audience out of an explanation, an introduction of the chain-saw family, and even a proper ending. It isn't the slashing that we enjoy. It's the waiting for the slashing.

Hitchcock knew this, with his famous example of a bomb under a table. (It goes off -- that's action. It doesn't go off -- that's suspense.) M. Night Shyamalan's "Signs" knew that, and hardly bothered with its aliens at all. And the best scenes in Hawks' "The Thing" involve the empty corridors of the Antarctic station where the Thing might be lurking.

"Alien" uses a tricky device to keep the alien fresh throughout the movie: It evolves the nature and appearance of the creature, so we never know quite what it looks like or what it can do. We assume at first the eggs will produce a humanoid, because that's the form of the petrified pilot on the long-lost alien ship. But of course we don't even know if the pilot is of the same race as his cargo of leathery eggs. Maybe he also considers them as a weapon. The first time we get a good look at the alien, as it bursts from the chest of poor Kane (John Hurt). It is unmistakably phallic in shape, and the critic Tim Dirks mentions its "open, dripping vaginal mouth."

Yes, but later, as we glimpse it during a series of attacks, it no longer assumes this shape at all, but looks octopod, reptilian or arachnoid. And then it uncorks another secret; the fluid dripping from its body is a "universal solvent," and there is a sequence both frightening and delightful as it eats its way through one deck of the ship after another. As the sequels ("Aliens," "Alien 3," "Alien Resurrection") will make all too abundantly clear, the alien is capable of being just about any monster the story requires. Because it doesn't play by any rules of appearance or behavior, it becomes an amorphous menace, haunting the ship with the specter of shape-shifting evil. Ash (Ian Holm), the science officer, calls it a "perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility," and admits: "I admire its purity, its sense of survival; unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality."

Sigourney Weaver, whose career would be linked for years to this strange creature, is of course the only survivor of this original crew, except for the ... cat. The producers must have hoped for a sequel, and by killing everyone except a woman, they cast their lot with a female lead for their series.

Variety noted a few years later that Weaver remained the only actress who could "open" an action movie, and it was a tribute to her versatility that she could play the hard, competent, ruthless Ripley and then double back for so many other kinds of roles. One of the reasons she works so well in the role is that she comes across as smart; the 1979 "Alien" is a much more cerebral movie than its sequels, with the characters (and the audience) genuinely engaged in curiosity about this weirdest of lifeforms.

A peculiarity of the rest of the actors is that none of them were particularly young. Tom Skerritt, the captain, was 46, Hurt was 39 but looked older, Holm was 48, Harry Dean Stanton was 53, Yaphet Kotto was 42, and only Veronica Cartwright at 29 and Weaver at 30 were in the age range of the usual thriller cast. Many recent action pictures have improbably young actors cast as key roles or sidekicks, but by skewing older, "Alien" achieves a certain texture without even making a point of it: These are not adventurers but workers, hired by a company to return 20 million tons of ore to Earth (the vast size of the ship is indicated in a deleted scene, included on the DVD, which takes nearly a minute just to show it passing).

The screenplay by Dan O'Bannon, based on a story he wrote with Ronald Shusett, allows these characters to speak in distinctive voices. Brett and Parker (Kotto and Stanton), who work in the engine room, complain about delays and worry about their cut of the profits. But listen to Ash: "I'm still collating it, actually, but I have confirmed that he's got an outer layer of protein polysaccharides. He has a funny habit of shedding his cells and replacing them with polarized silicon which gives him a prolonged resistance to adverse environmental conditions." And then there is Ripley's direct way of cutting to the bottom line.

The result is a film that absorbs us in a mission before it involves us in an adventure, and that consistently engages the alien with curiosity and logic, instead of simply firing at it. Contrast this movie with a latter-day space opera like "Armageddon," with its average shot a few seconds long and its dialogue reduced to terse statements telegraphing the plot. Much of the credit for "Alien" must go to director Ridley Scott, who had made only one major film before this, the cerebral, elegant "The Duelists" (1977). His next film would be another intelligent, visionary sci-fi epic, "Blade Runner" (1982).

Though his career has included some inexplicable clinkers ("Someone To Watch Over Me,") it has also included "Thelma & Louise," "G.I. Jane," "Gladiator" (unloved by me, but not by audiences), "Black Hawk Down" and "Matchstick Men." These are simultaneously commercial and intelligent projects, made by a director who wants to attract a large audience but doesn't care to insult it.

"Alien" has been called the most influential of modern action pictures, and so it is, although "Halloween" also belongs on the list. Unfortunately, the films it influenced studied its thrills but not its thinking. We have now descended into a bog of Gotcha! movies in which various horrible beings spring on a series of victims, usually teenagers. The ultimate extension of the genre is the Geek Movie, illustrated by the remake of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which essentially sets the audience the same test as an old-time carnival geek show: Now that you've paid your money, can you keep your eyes open while we disgust you? A few more ambitious and serious sci-fi films have also followed in the footsteps of "Alien," notably the well-made "Aliens" (1986) and "Dark City" (1998). But the original still vibrates with a dark and frightening intensity.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-02 11:32

At its most fundamental level, "Alien" is a movie about things that can jump out of the dark and kill you. It shares a kinship with the shark in "Jaws," Michael Myers in "Halloween," and assorted spiders, snakes, tarantulas and stalkers. Its most obvious influence is Howard Hawks' "The Thing" (1951), which was also about a team in an isolated outpost who discover a long-dormant alien, bring it inside, and are picked off one by one as it haunts the corridors. Look at that movie, and you see "Alien" in embryo.

In another way, Ridley Scott's 1979 movie is a great original. It builds on the seminal opening shot of "Star Wars" (1977), with its vast ship in lonely interstellar space, and sidesteps Lucas' space opera to tell a story in the genre of traditional "hard" science fiction; with its tough-talking crew members and their mercenary motives, the story would have found a home in John W. Campbell's Astounding Science Fiction during its nuts-and-bolts period in the 1940s. Campbell loved stories in which engineers and scientists, not space jockeys and ray-gun blasters, dealt with outer space in logical ways.

Certainly the character of Ripley, played by Sigourney Weaver, would have appealed to readers in the Golden Age of Science Fiction. She has little interest in the romance of finding the alien, and still less in her employer's orders that it be brought back home as a potential weapon. After she sees what it can do, her response to "Special Order 24" ("Return alien lifeform, all other priorities rescinded") is succinct: "How do we kill it?" Her implacable hatred for the alien is the common thread running through all three "Alien" sequels, which have gradually descended in quality but retained their motivating obsession.

One of the great strengths of "Alien" is its pacing. It takes its time. It waits. It allows silences (the majestic opening shots are underscored by Jerry Goldsmith with scarcely audible, far-off metallic chatterings). It suggests the enormity of the crew's discovery by building up to it with small steps: The interception of a signal (is it a warning or an SOS?). The descent to the extraterrestrial surface. The bitching by Brett and Parker, who are concerned only about collecting their shares. The masterstroke of the surface murk through which the crew members move, their helmet lights hardly penetrating the soup. The shadowy outline of the alien ship. The sight of the alien pilot, frozen in his command chair. The enormity of the discovery inside the ship ("It's full of ... leathery eggs ...").

A recent version of this story would have hurtled toward the part where the alien jumps on the crew members. Today's slasher movies, in the sci-fi genre and elsewhere, are all pay-off and no buildup. Consider the wretched remake of the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which cheats its audience out of an explanation, an introduction of the chain-saw family, and even a proper ending. It isn't the slashing that we enjoy. It's the waiting for the slashing.

Hitchcock knew this, with his famous example of a bomb under a table. (It goes off -- that's action. It doesn't go off -- that's suspense.) M. Night Shyamalan's "Signs" knew that, and hardly bothered with its aliens at all. And the best scenes in Hawks' "The Thing" involve the empty corridors of the Antarctic station where the Thing might be lurking.

"Alien" uses a tricky device to keep the alien fresh throughout the movie: It evolves the nature and appearance of the creature, so we never know quite what it looks like or what it can do. We assume at first the eggs will produce a humanoid, because that's the form of the petrified pilot on the long-lost alien ship. But of course we don't even know if the pilot is of the same race as his cargo of leathery eggs. Maybe he also considers them as a weapon. The first time we get a good look at the alien, as it bursts from the chest of poor Kane (John Hurt). It is unmistakably phallic in shape, and the critic Tim Dirks mentions its "open, dripping vaginal mouth."

Yes, but later, as we glimpse it during a series of attacks, it no longer assumes this shape at all, but looks octopod, reptilian or arachnoid. And then it uncorks another secret; the fluid dripping from its body is a "universal solvent," and there is a sequence both frightening and delightful as it eats its way through one deck of the ship after another. As the sequels ("Aliens," "Alien 3," "Alien Resurrection") will make all too abundantly clear, the alien is capable of being just about any monster the story requires. Because it doesn't play by any rules of appearance or behavior, it becomes an amorphous menace, haunting the ship with the specter of shape-shifting evil. Ash (Ian Holm), the science officer, calls it a "perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility," and admits: "I admire its purity, its sense of survival; unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality."

Sigourney Weaver, whose career would be linked for years to this strange creature, is of course the only survivor of this original crew, except for the ... cat. The producers must have hoped for a sequel, and by killing everyone except a woman, they cast their lot with a female lead for their series.

Variety noted a few years later that Weaver remained the only actress who could "open" an action movie, and it was a tribute to her versatility that she could play the hard, competent, ruthless Ripley and then double back for so many other kinds of roles. One of the reasons she works so well in the role is that she comes across as smart; the 1979 "Alien" is a much more cerebral movie than its sequels, with the characters (and the audience) genuinely engaged in curiosity about this weirdest of lifeforms.

A peculiarity of the rest of the actors is that none of them were particularly young. Tom Skerritt, the captain, was 46, Hurt was 39 but looked older, Holm was 48, Harry Dean Stanton was 53, Yaphet Kotto was 42, and only Veronica Cartwright at 29 and Weaver at 30 were in the age range of the usual thriller cast. Many recent action pictures have improbably young actors cast as key roles or sidekicks, but by skewing older, "Alien" achieves a certain texture without even making a point of it: These are not adventurers but workers, hired by a company to return 20 million tons of ore to Earth (the vast size of the ship is indicated in a deleted scene, included on the DVD, which takes nearly a minute just to show it passing).

The screenplay by Dan O'Bannon, based on a story he wrote with Ronald Shusett, allows these characters to speak in distinctive voices. Brett and Parker (Kotto and Stanton), who work in the engine room, complain about delays and worry about their cut of the profits. But listen to Ash: "I'm still collating it, actually, but I have confirmed that he's got an outer layer of protein polysaccharides. He has a funny habit of shedding his cells and replacing them with polarized silicon which gives him a prolonged resistance to adverse environmental conditions." And then there is Ripley's direct way of cutting to the bottom line.

The result is a film that absorbs us in a mission before it involves us in an adventure, and that consistently engages the alien with curiosity and logic, instead of simply firing at it. Contrast this movie with a latter-day space opera like "Armageddon," with its average shot a few seconds long and its dialogue reduced to terse statements telegraphing the plot. Much of the credit for "Alien" must go to director Ridley Scott, who had made only one major film before this, the cerebral, elegant "The Duelists" (1977). His next film would be another intelligent, visionary sci-fi epic, "Blade Runner" (1982).

Though his career has included some inexplicable clinkers ("Someone To Watch Over Me,") it has also included "Thelma & Louise," "G.I. Jane," "Gladiator" (unloved by me, but not by audiences), "Black Hawk Down" and "Matchstick Men." These are simultaneously commercial and intelligent projects, made by a director who wants to attract a large audience but doesn't care to insult it.

"Alien" has been called the most influential of modern action pictures, and so it is, although "Halloween" also belongs on the list. Unfortunately, the films it influenced studied its thrills but not its thinking. We have now descended into a bog of Gotcha! movies in which various horrible beings spring on a series of victims, usually teenagers. The ultimate extension of the genre is the Geek Movie, illustrated by the remake of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which essentially sets the audience the same test as an old-time carnival geek show: Now that you've paid your money, can you keep your eyes open while we disgust you? A few more ambitious and serious sci-fi films have also followed in the footsteps of "Alien," notably the well-made "Aliens" (1986) and "Dark City" (1998). But the original still vibrates with a dark and frightening intensity.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-02 11:32

At its most fundamental level, "Alien" is a movie about things that can jump out of the dark and kill you. It shares a kinship with the shark in "Jaws," Michael Myers in "Halloween," and assorted spiders, snakes, tarantulas and stalkers. Its most obvious influence is Howard Hawks' "The Thing" (1951), which was also about a team in an isolated outpost who discover a long-dormant alien, bring it inside, and are picked off one by one as it haunts the corridors. Look at that movie, and you see "Alien" in embryo.

In another way, Ridley Scott's 1979 movie is a great original. It builds on the seminal opening shot of "Star Wars" (1977), with its vast ship in lonely interstellar space, and sidesteps Lucas' space opera to tell a story in the genre of traditional "hard" science fiction; with its tough-talking crew members and their mercenary motives, the story would have found a home in John W. Campbell's Astounding Science Fiction during its nuts-and-bolts period in the 1940s. Campbell loved stories in which engineers and scientists, not space jockeys and ray-gun blasters, dealt with outer space in logical ways.

Certainly the character of Ripley, played by Sigourney Weaver, would have appealed to readers in the Golden Age of Science Fiction. She has little interest in the romance of finding the alien, and still less in her employer's orders that it be brought back home as a potential weapon. After she sees what it can do, her response to "Special Order 24" ("Return alien lifeform, all other priorities rescinded") is succinct: "How do we kill it?" Her implacable hatred for the alien is the common thread running through all three "Alien" sequels, which have gradually descended in quality but retained their motivating obsession.

One of the great strengths of "Alien" is its pacing. It takes its time. It waits. It allows silences (the majestic opening shots are underscored by Jerry Goldsmith with scarcely audible, far-off metallic chatterings). It suggests the enormity of the crew's discovery by building up to it with small steps: The interception of a signal (is it a warning or an SOS?). The descent to the extraterrestrial surface. The bitching by Brett and Parker, who are concerned only about collecting their shares. The masterstroke of the surface murk through which the crew members move, their helmet lights hardly penetrating the soup. The shadowy outline of the alien ship. The sight of the alien pilot, frozen in his command chair. The enormity of the discovery inside the ship ("It's full of ... leathery eggs ...").

A recent version of this story would have hurtled toward the part where the alien jumps on the crew members. Today's slasher movies, in the sci-fi genre and elsewhere, are all pay-off and no buildup. Consider the wretched remake of the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which cheats its audience out of an explanation, an introduction of the chain-saw family, and even a proper ending. It isn't the slashing that we enjoy. It's the waiting for the slashing.

Hitchcock knew this, with his famous example of a bomb under a table. (It goes off -- that's action. It doesn't go off -- that's suspense.) M. Night Shyamalan's "Signs" knew that, and hardly bothered with its aliens at all. And the best scenes in Hawks' "The Thing" involve the empty corridors of the Antarctic station where the Thing might be lurking.

"Alien" uses a tricky device to keep the alien fresh throughout the movie: It evolves the nature and appearance of the creature, so we never know quite what it looks like or what it can do. We assume at first the eggs will produce a humanoid, because that's the form of the petrified pilot on the long-lost alien ship. But of course we don't even know if the pilot is of the same race as his cargo of leathery eggs. Maybe he also considers them as a weapon. The first time we get a good look at the alien, as it bursts from the chest of poor Kane (John Hurt). It is unmistakably phallic in shape, and the critic Tim Dirks mentions its "open, dripping vaginal mouth."

Yes, but later, as we glimpse it during a series of attacks, it no longer assumes this shape at all, but looks octopod, reptilian or arachnoid. And then it uncorks another secret; the fluid dripping from its body is a "universal solvent," and there is a sequence both frightening and delightful as it eats its way through one deck of the ship after another. As the sequels ("Aliens," "Alien 3," "Alien Resurrection") will make all too abundantly clear, the alien is capable of being just about any monster the story requires. Because it doesn't play by any rules of appearance or behavior, it becomes an amorphous menace, haunting the ship with the specter of shape-shifting evil. Ash (Ian Holm), the science officer, calls it a "perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility," and admits: "I admire its purity, its sense of survival; unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality."

Sigourney Weaver, whose career would be linked for years to this strange creature, is of course the only survivor of this original crew, except for the ... cat. The producers must have hoped for a sequel, and by killing everyone except a woman, they cast their lot with a female lead for their series.

Variety noted a few years later that Weaver remained the only actress who could "open" an action movie, and it was a tribute to her versatility that she could play the hard, competent, ruthless Ripley and then double back for so many other kinds of roles. One of the reasons she works so well in the role is that she comes across as smart; the 1979 "Alien" is a much more cerebral movie than its sequels, with the characters (and the audience) genuinely engaged in curiosity about this weirdest of lifeforms.

A peculiarity of the rest of the actors is that none of them were particularly young. Tom Skerritt, the captain, was 46, Hurt was 39 but looked older, Holm was 48, Harry Dean Stanton was 53, Yaphet Kotto was 42, and only Veronica Cartwright at 29 and Weaver at 30 were in the age range of the usual thriller cast. Many recent action pictures have improbably young actors cast as key roles or sidekicks, but by skewing older, "Alien" achieves a certain texture without even making a point of it: These are not adventurers but workers, hired by a company to return 20 million tons of ore to Earth (the vast size of the ship is indicated in a deleted scene, included on the DVD, which takes nearly a minute just to show it passing).

The screenplay by Dan O'Bannon, based on a story he wrote with Ronald Shusett, allows these characters to speak in distinctive voices. Brett and Parker (Kotto and Stanton), who work in the engine room, complain about delays and worry about their cut of the profits. But listen to Ash: "I'm still collating it, actually, but I have confirmed that he's got an outer layer of protein polysaccharides. He has a funny habit of shedding his cells and replacing them with polarized silicon which gives him a prolonged resistance to adverse environmental conditions." And then there is Ripley's direct way of cutting to the bottom line.

The result is a film that absorbs us in a mission before it involves us in an adventure, and that consistently engages the alien with curiosity and logic, instead of simply firing at it. Contrast this movie with a latter-day space opera like "Armageddon," with its average shot a few seconds long and its dialogue reduced to terse statements telegraphing the plot. Much of the credit for "Alien" must go to director Ridley Scott, who had made only one major film before this, the cerebral, elegant "The Duelists" (1977). His next film would be another intelligent, visionary sci-fi epic, "Blade Runner" (1982).

Though his career has included some inexplicable clinkers ("Someone To Watch Over Me,") it has also included "Thelma & Louise," "G.I. Jane," "Gladiator" (unloved by me, but not by audiences), "Black Hawk Down" and "Matchstick Men." These are simultaneously commercial and intelligent projects, made by a director who wants to attract a large audience but doesn't care to insult it.

"Alien" has been called the most influential of modern action pictures, and so it is, although "Halloween" also belongs on the list. Unfortunately, the films it influenced studied its thrills but not its thinking. We have now descended into a bog of Gotcha! movies in which various horrible beings spring on a series of victims, usually teenagers. The ultimate extension of the genre is the Geek Movie, illustrated by the remake of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which essentially sets the audience the same test as an old-time carnival geek show: Now that you've paid your money, can you keep your eyes open while we disgust you? A few more ambitious and serious sci-fi films have also followed in the footsteps of "Alien," notably the well-made "Aliens" (1986) and "Dark City" (1998). But the original still vibrates with a dark and frightening intensity.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-02 11:33

At its most fundamental level, "Alien" is a movie about things that can jump out of the dark and kill you. It shares a kinship with the shark in "Jaws," Michael Myers in "Halloween," and assorted spiders, snakes, tarantulas and stalkers. Its most obvious influence is Howard Hawks' "The Thing" (1951), which was also about a team in an isolated outpost who discover a long-dormant alien, bring it inside, and are picked off one by one as it haunts the corridors. Look at that movie, and you see "Alien" in embryo.

In another way, Ridley Scott's 1979 movie is a great original. It builds on the seminal opening shot of "Star Wars" (1977), with its vast ship in lonely interstellar space, and sidesteps Lucas' space opera to tell a story in the genre of traditional "hard" science fiction; with its tough-talking crew members and their mercenary motives, the story would have found a home in John W. Campbell's Astounding Science Fiction during its nuts-and-bolts period in the 1940s. Campbell loved stories in which engineers and scientists, not space jockeys and ray-gun blasters, dealt with outer space in logical ways.

Certainly the character of Ripley, played by Sigourney Weaver, would have appealed to readers in the Golden Age of Science Fiction. She has little interest in the romance of finding the alien, and still less in her employer's orders that it be brought back home as a potential weapon. After she sees what it can do, her response to "Special Order 24" ("Return alien lifeform, all other priorities rescinded") is succinct: "How do we kill it?" Her implacable hatred for the alien is the common thread running through all three "Alien" sequels, which have gradually descended in quality but retained their motivating obsession.

One of the great strengths of "Alien" is its pacing. It takes its time. It waits. It allows silences (the majestic opening shots are underscored by Jerry Goldsmith with scarcely audible, far-off metallic chatterings). It suggests the enormity of the crew's discovery by building up to it with small steps: The interception of a signal (is it a warning or an SOS?). The descent to the extraterrestrial surface. The bitching by Brett and Parker, who are concerned only about collecting their shares. The masterstroke of the surface murk through which the crew members move, their helmet lights hardly penetrating the soup. The shadowy outline of the alien ship. The sight of the alien pilot, frozen in his command chair. The enormity of the discovery inside the ship ("It's full of ... leathery eggs ...").

A recent version of this story would have hurtled toward the part where the alien jumps on the crew members. Today's slasher movies, in the sci-fi genre and elsewhere, are all pay-off and no buildup. Consider the wretched remake of the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which cheats its audience out of an explanation, an introduction of the chain-saw family, and even a proper ending. It isn't the slashing that we enjoy. It's the waiting for the slashing.

Hitchcock knew this, with his famous example of a bomb under a table. (It goes off -- that's action. It doesn't go off -- that's suspense.) M. Night Shyamalan's "Signs" knew that, and hardly bothered with its aliens at all. And the best scenes in Hawks' "The Thing" involve the empty corridors of the Antarctic station where the Thing might be lurking.

"Alien" uses a tricky device to keep the alien fresh throughout the movie: It evolves the nature and appearance of the creature, so we never know quite what it looks like or what it can do. We assume at first the eggs will produce a humanoid, because that's the form of the petrified pilot on the long-lost alien ship. But of course we don't even know if the pilot is of the same race as his cargo of leathery eggs. Maybe he also considers them as a weapon. The first time we get a good look at the alien, as it bursts from the chest of poor Kane (John Hurt). It is unmistakably phallic in shape, and the critic Tim Dirks mentions its "open, dripping vaginal mouth."

Yes, but later, as we glimpse it during a series of attacks, it no longer assumes this shape at all, but looks octopod, reptilian or arachnoid. And then it uncorks another secret; the fluid dripping from its body is a "universal solvent," and there is a sequence both frightening and delightful as it eats its way through one deck of the ship after another. As the sequels ("Aliens," "Alien 3," "Alien Resurrection") will make all too abundantly clear, the alien is capable of being just about any monster the story requires. Because it doesn't play by any rules of appearance or behavior, it becomes an amorphous menace, haunting the ship with the specter of shape-shifting evil. Ash (Ian Holm), the science officer, calls it a "perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility," and admits: "I admire its purity, its sense of survival; unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality."

Sigourney Weaver, whose career would be linked for years to this strange creature, is of course the only survivor of this original crew, except for the ... cat. The producers must have hoped for a sequel, and by killing everyone except a woman, they cast their lot with a female lead for their series.

Variety noted a few years later that Weaver remained the only actress who could "open" an action movie, and it was a tribute to her versatility that she could play the hard, competent, ruthless Ripley and then double back for so many other kinds of roles. One of the reasons she works so well in the role is that she comes across as smart; the 1979 "Alien" is a much more cerebral movie than its sequels, with the characters (and the audience) genuinely engaged in curiosity about this weirdest of lifeforms.

A peculiarity of the rest of the actors is that none of them were particularly young. Tom Skerritt, the captain, was 46, Hurt was 39 but looked older, Holm was 48, Harry Dean Stanton was 53, Yaphet Kotto was 42, and only Veronica Cartwright at 29 and Weaver at 30 were in the age range of the usual thriller cast. Many recent action pictures have improbably young actors cast as key roles or sidekicks, but by skewing older, "Alien" achieves a certain texture without even making a point of it: These are not adventurers but workers, hired by a company to return 20 million tons of ore to Earth (the vast size of the ship is indicated in a deleted scene, included on the DVD, which takes nearly a minute just to show it passing).

The screenplay by Dan O'Bannon, based on a story he wrote with Ronald Shusett, allows these characters to speak in distinctive voices. Brett and Parker (Kotto and Stanton), who work in the engine room, complain about delays and worry about their cut of the profits. But listen to Ash: "I'm still collating it, actually, but I have confirmed that he's got an outer layer of protein polysaccharides. He has a funny habit of shedding his cells and replacing them with polarized silicon which gives him a prolonged resistance to adverse environmental conditions." And then there is Ripley's direct way of cutting to the bottom line.

The result is a film that absorbs us in a mission before it involves us in an adventure, and that consistently engages the alien with curiosity and logic, instead of simply firing at it. Contrast this movie with a latter-day space opera like "Armageddon," with its average shot a few seconds long and its dialogue reduced to terse statements telegraphing the plot. Much of the credit for "Alien" must go to director Ridley Scott, who had made only one major film before this, the cerebral, elegant "The Duelists" (1977). His next film would be another intelligent, visionary sci-fi epic, "Blade Runner" (1982).

Though his career has included some inexplicable clinkers ("Someone To Watch Over Me,") it has also included "Thelma & Louise," "G.I. Jane," "Gladiator" (unloved by me, but not by audiences), "Black Hawk Down" and "Matchstick Men." These are simultaneously commercial and intelligent projects, made by a director who wants to attract a large audience but doesn't care to insult it.

"Alien" has been called the most influential of modern action pictures, and so it is, although "Halloween" also belongs on the list. Unfortunately, the films it influenced studied its thrills but not its thinking. We have now descended into a bog of Gotcha! movies in which various horrible beings spring on a series of victims, usually teenagers. The ultimate extension of the genre is the Geek Movie, illustrated by the remake of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which essentially sets the audience the same test as an old-time carnival geek show: Now that you've paid your money, can you keep your eyes open while we disgust you? A few more ambitious and serious sci-fi films have also followed in the footsteps of "Alien," notably the well-made "Aliens" (1986) and "Dark City" (1998). But the original still vibrates with a dark and frightening intensity.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-02 11:33

At its most fundamental level, "Alien" is a movie about things that can jump out of the dark and kill you. It shares a kinship with the shark in "Jaws," Michael Myers in "Halloween," and assorted spiders, snakes, tarantulas and stalkers. Its most obvious influence is Howard Hawks' "The Thing" (1951), which was also about a team in an isolated outpost who discover a long-dormant alien, bring it inside, and are picked off one by one as it haunts the corridors. Look at that movie, and you see "Alien" in embryo.

In another way, Ridley Scott's 1979 movie is a great original. It builds on the seminal opening shot of "Star Wars" (1977), with its vast ship in lonely interstellar space, and sidesteps Lucas' space opera to tell a story in the genre of traditional "hard" science fiction; with its tough-talking crew members and their mercenary motives, the story would have found a home in John W. Campbell's Astounding Science Fiction during its nuts-and-bolts period in the 1940s. Campbell loved stories in which engineers and scientists, not space jockeys and ray-gun blasters, dealt with outer space in logical ways.

Certainly the character of Ripley, played by Sigourney Weaver, would have appealed to readers in the Golden Age of Science Fiction. She has little interest in the romance of finding the alien, and still less in her employer's orders that it be brought back home as a potential weapon. After she sees what it can do, her response to "Special Order 24" ("Return alien lifeform, all other priorities rescinded") is succinct: "How do we kill it?" Her implacable hatred for the alien is the common thread running through all three "Alien" sequels, which have gradually descended in quality but retained their motivating obsession.

One of the great strengths of "Alien" is its pacing. It takes its time. It waits. It allows silences (the majestic opening shots are underscored by Jerry Goldsmith with scarcely audible, far-off metallic chatterings). It suggests the enormity of the crew's discovery by building up to it with small steps: The interception of a signal (is it a warning or an SOS?). The descent to the extraterrestrial surface. The bitching by Brett and Parker, who are concerned only about collecting their shares. The masterstroke of the surface murk through which the crew members move, their helmet lights hardly penetrating the soup. The shadowy outline of the alien ship. The sight of the alien pilot, frozen in his command chair. The enormity of the discovery inside the ship ("It's full of ... leathery eggs ...").

A recent version of this story would have hurtled toward the part where the alien jumps on the crew members. Today's slasher movies, in the sci-fi genre and elsewhere, are all pay-off and no buildup. Consider the wretched remake of the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which cheats its audience out of an explanation, an introduction of the chain-saw family, and even a proper ending. It isn't the slashing that we enjoy. It's the waiting for the slashing.

Hitchcock knew this, with his famous example of a bomb under a table. (It goes off -- that's action. It doesn't go off -- that's suspense.) M. Night Shyamalan's "Signs" knew that, and hardly bothered with its aliens at all. And the best scenes in Hawks' "The Thing" involve the empty corridors of the Antarctic station where the Thing might be lurking.

"Alien" uses a tricky device to keep the alien fresh throughout the movie: It evolves the nature and appearance of the creature, so we never know quite what it looks like or what it can do. We assume at first the eggs will produce a humanoid, because that's the form of the petrified pilot on the long-lost alien ship. But of course we don't even know if the pilot is of the same race as his cargo of leathery eggs. Maybe he also considers them as a weapon. The first time we get a good look at the alien, as it bursts from the chest of poor Kane (John Hurt). It is unmistakably phallic in shape, and the critic Tim Dirks mentions its "open, dripping vaginal mouth."

Yes, but later, as we glimpse it during a series of attacks, it no longer assumes this shape at all, but looks octopod, reptilian or arachnoid. And then it uncorks another secret; the fluid dripping from its body is a "universal solvent," and there is a sequence both frightening and delightful as it eats its way through one deck of the ship after another. As the sequels ("Aliens," "Alien 3," "Alien Resurrection") will make all too abundantly clear, the alien is capable of being just about any monster the story requires. Because it doesn't play by any rules of appearance or behavior, it becomes an amorphous menace, haunting the ship with the specter of shape-shifting evil. Ash (Ian Holm), the science officer, calls it a "perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility," and admits: "I admire its purity, its sense of survival; unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality."

Sigourney Weaver, whose career would be linked for years to this strange creature, is of course the only survivor of this original crew, except for the ... cat. The producers must have hoped for a sequel, and by killing everyone except a woman, they cast their lot with a female lead for their series.

Variety noted a few years later that Weaver remained the only actress who could "open" an action movie, and it was a tribute to her versatility that she could play the hard, competent, ruthless Ripley and then double back for so many other kinds of roles. One of the reasons she works so well in the role is that she comes across as smart; the 1979 "Alien" is a much more cerebral movie than its sequels, with the characters (and the audience) genuinely engaged in curiosity about this weirdest of lifeforms.

A peculiarity of the rest of the actors is that none of them were particularly young. Tom Skerritt, the captain, was 46, Hurt was 39 but looked older, Holm was 48, Harry Dean Stanton was 53, Yaphet Kotto was 42, and only Veronica Cartwright at 29 and Weaver at 30 were in the age range of the usual thriller cast. Many recent action pictures have improbably young actors cast as key roles or sidekicks, but by skewing older, "Alien" achieves a certain texture without even making a point of it: These are not adventurers but workers, hired by a company to return 20 million tons of ore to Earth (the vast size of the ship is indicated in a deleted scene, included on the DVD, which takes nearly a minute just to show it passing).

The screenplay by Dan O'Bannon, based on a story he wrote with Ronald Shusett, allows these characters to speak in distinctive voices. Brett and Parker (Kotto and Stanton), who work in the engine room, complain about delays and worry about their cut of the profits. But listen to Ash: "I'm still collating it, actually, but I have confirmed that he's got an outer layer of protein polysaccharides. He has a funny habit of shedding his cells and replacing them with polarized silicon which gives him a prolonged resistance to adverse environmental conditions." And then there is Ripley's direct way of cutting to the bottom line.

The result is a film that absorbs us in a mission before it involves us in an adventure, and that consistently engages the alien with curiosity and logic, instead of simply firing at it. Contrast this movie with a latter-day space opera like "Armageddon," with its average shot a few seconds long and its dialogue reduced to terse statements telegraphing the plot. Much of the credit for "Alien" must go to director Ridley Scott, who had made only one major film before this, the cerebral, elegant "The Duelists" (1977). His next film would be another intelligent, visionary sci-fi epic, "Blade Runner" (1982).

Though his career has included some inexplicable clinkers ("Someone To Watch Over Me,") it has also included "Thelma & Louise," "G.I. Jane," "Gladiator" (unloved by me, but not by audiences), "Black Hawk Down" and "Matchstick Men." These are simultaneously commercial and intelligent projects, made by a director who wants to attract a large audience but doesn't care to insult it.

"Alien" has been called the most influential of modern action pictures, and so it is, although "Halloween" also belongs on the list. Unfortunately, the films it influenced studied its thrills but not its thinking. We have now descended into a bog of Gotcha! movies in which various horrible beings spring on a series of victims, usually teenagers. The ultimate extension of the genre is the Geek Movie, illustrated by the remake of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which essentially sets the audience the same test as an old-time carnival geek show: Now that you've paid your money, can you keep your eyes open while we disgust you? A few more ambitious and serious sci-fi films have also followed in the footsteps of "Alien," notably the well-made "Aliens" (1986) and "Dark City" (1998). But the original still vibrates with a dark and frightening intensity.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-02 11:34

At its most fundamental level, "Alien" is a movie about things that can jump out of the dark and kill you. It shares a kinship with the shark in "Jaws," Michael Myers in "Halloween," and assorted spiders, snakes, tarantulas and stalkers. Its most obvious influence is Howard Hawks' "The Thing" (1951), which was also about a team in an isolated outpost who discover a long-dormant alien, bring it inside, and are picked off one by one as it haunts the corridors. Look at that movie, and you see "Alien" in embryo.

In another way, Ridley Scott's 1979 movie is a great original. It builds on the seminal opening shot of "Star Wars" (1977), with its vast ship in lonely interstellar space, and sidesteps Lucas' space opera to tell a story in the genre of traditional "hard" science fiction; with its tough-talking crew members and their mercenary motives, the story would have found a home in John W. Campbell's Astounding Science Fiction during its nuts-and-bolts period in the 1940s. Campbell loved stories in which engineers and scientists, not space jockeys and ray-gun blasters, dealt with outer space in logical ways.

Certainly the character of Ripley, played by Sigourney Weaver, would have appealed to readers in the Golden Age of Science Fiction. She has little interest in the romance of finding the alien, and still less in her employer's orders that it be brought back home as a potential weapon. After she sees what it can do, her response to "Special Order 24" ("Return alien lifeform, all other priorities rescinded") is succinct: "How do we kill it?" Her implacable hatred for the alien is the common thread running through all three "Alien" sequels, which have gradually descended in quality but retained their motivating obsession.

One of the great strengths of "Alien" is its pacing. It takes its time. It waits. It allows silences (the majestic opening shots are underscored by Jerry Goldsmith with scarcely audible, far-off metallic chatterings). It suggests the enormity of the crew's discovery by building up to it with small steps: The interception of a signal (is it a warning or an SOS?). The descent to the extraterrestrial surface. The bitching by Brett and Parker, who are concerned only about collecting their shares. The masterstroke of the surface murk through which the crew members move, their helmet lights hardly penetrating the soup. The shadowy outline of the alien ship. The sight of the alien pilot, frozen in his command chair. The enormity of the discovery inside the ship ("It's full of ... leathery eggs ...").

A recent version of this story would have hurtled toward the part where the alien jumps on the crew members. Today's slasher movies, in the sci-fi genre and elsewhere, are all pay-off and no buildup. Consider the wretched remake of the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which cheats its audience out of an explanation, an introduction of the chain-saw family, and even a proper ending. It isn't the slashing that we enjoy. It's the waiting for the slashing.

Hitchcock knew this, with his famous example of a bomb under a table. (It goes off -- that's action. It doesn't go off -- that's suspense.) M. Night Shyamalan's "Signs" knew that, and hardly bothered with its aliens at all. And the best scenes in Hawks' "The Thing" involve the empty corridors of the Antarctic station where the Thing might be lurking.

"Alien" uses a tricky device to keep the alien fresh throughout the movie: It evolves the nature and appearance of the creature, so we never know quite what it looks like or what it can do. We assume at first the eggs will produce a humanoid, because that's the form of the petrified pilot on the long-lost alien ship. But of course we don't even know if the pilot is of the same race as his cargo of leathery eggs. Maybe he also considers them as a weapon. The first time we get a good look at the alien, as it bursts from the chest of poor Kane (John Hurt). It is unmistakably phallic in shape, and the critic Tim Dirks mentions its "open, dripping vaginal mouth."

Yes, but later, as we glimpse it during a series of attacks, it no longer assumes this shape at all, but looks octopod, reptilian or arachnoid. And then it uncorks another secret; the fluid dripping from its body is a "universal solvent," and there is a sequence both frightening and delightful as it eats its way through one deck of the ship after another. As the sequels ("Aliens," "Alien 3," "Alien Resurrection") will make all too abundantly clear, the alien is capable of being just about any monster the story requires. Because it doesn't play by any rules of appearance or behavior, it becomes an amorphous menace, haunting the ship with the specter of shape-shifting evil. Ash (Ian Holm), the science officer, calls it a "perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility," and admits: "I admire its purity, its sense of survival; unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality."

Sigourney Weaver, whose career would be linked for years to this strange creature, is of course the only survivor of this original crew, except for the ... cat. The producers must have hoped for a sequel, and by killing everyone except a woman, they cast their lot with a female lead for their series.

Variety noted a few years later that Weaver remained the only actress who could "open" an action movie, and it was a tribute to her versatility that she could play the hard, competent, ruthless Ripley and then double back for so many other kinds of roles. One of the reasons she works so well in the role is that she comes across as smart; the 1979 "Alien" is a much more cerebral movie than its sequels, with the characters (and the audience) genuinely engaged in curiosity about this weirdest of lifeforms.

A peculiarity of the rest of the actors is that none of them were particularly young. Tom Skerritt, the captain, was 46, Hurt was 39 but looked older, Holm was 48, Harry Dean Stanton was 53, Yaphet Kotto was 42, and only Veronica Cartwright at 29 and Weaver at 30 were in the age range of the usual thriller cast. Many recent action pictures have improbably young actors cast as key roles or sidekicks, but by skewing older, "Alien" achieves a certain texture without even making a point of it: These are not adventurers but workers, hired by a company to return 20 million tons of ore to Earth (the vast size of the ship is indicated in a deleted scene, included on the DVD, which takes nearly a minute just to show it passing).

The screenplay by Dan O'Bannon, based on a story he wrote with Ronald Shusett, allows these characters to speak in distinctive voices. Brett and Parker (Kotto and Stanton), who work in the engine room, complain about delays and worry about their cut of the profits. But listen to Ash: "I'm still collating it, actually, but I have confirmed that he's got an outer layer of protein polysaccharides. He has a funny habit of shedding his cells and replacing them with polarized silicon which gives him a prolonged resistance to adverse environmental conditions." And then there is Ripley's direct way of cutting to the bottom line.

The result is a film that absorbs us in a mission before it involves us in an adventure, and that consistently engages the alien with curiosity and logic, instead of simply firing at it. Contrast this movie with a latter-day space opera like "Armageddon," with its average shot a few seconds long and its dialogue reduced to terse statements telegraphing the plot. Much of the credit for "Alien" must go to director Ridley Scott, who had made only one major film before this, the cerebral, elegant "The Duelists" (1977). His next film would be another intelligent, visionary sci-fi epic, "Blade Runner" (1982).

Though his career has included some inexplicable clinkers ("Someone To Watch Over Me,") it has also included "Thelma & Louise," "G.I. Jane," "Gladiator" (unloved by me, but not by audiences), "Black Hawk Down" and "Matchstick Men." These are simultaneously commercial and intelligent projects, made by a director who wants to attract a large audience but doesn't care to insult it.

"Alien" has been called the most influential of modern action pictures, and so it is, although "Halloween" also belongs on the list. Unfortunately, the films it influenced studied its thrills but not its thinking. We have now descended into a bog of Gotcha! movies in which various horrible beings spring on a series of victims, usually teenagers. The ultimate extension of the genre is the Geek Movie, illustrated by the remake of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," which essentially sets the audience the same test as an old-time carnival geek show: Now that you've paid your money, can you keep your eyes open while we disgust you? A few more ambitious and serious sci-fi films have also followed in the footsteps of "Alien," notably the well-made "Aliens" (1986) and "Dark City" (1998). But the original still vibrates with a dark and frightening intensity.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-02 11:35

At the idiots from the IRC and twitter, are you already crying? I really hope, you fucking pieces of shit

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-02 11:38

>>1
Kraker, is that you? Come on, tell me, how does it feel to be partly responsible for that shit with your lies and such?

And here, I thought we could be friends. Too bad

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-02 16:41

Top lel, this is some serious internet vendetta. Did you get raped by some internet community? I have never seen such serious asspain before.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:21

OMG Tyrnos, deine Tränen sind wirklich köstlich im Scarlett Thread. Tja, wenn man so blöd ist und glaubt sie sei schön...

scarjo is in the top 5 hottest women alive

Ihr idioten bringt mir wirklich immer das beste Material, ich muss mich nicht mal anstrengen. Wie schon auf aniPodium macht ihr euch selber kaputt.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:23

Hier, nur für dich:

http://i.imgur.com/RCqmQt5.jpg

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:23

>>29
English, motherfucker. Do you speak it?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:24

ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING.JPG.PNG.GIF

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:25

>>31
English

Wozu sollte ich?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:26

>>30
>>>/tv/
sage for off-topic shit

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:26

>>31
Heul heul heul heul
Kuller kuller kuller kuller
Heul heul heul

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:27

Pass auf, dass du nicht weggeschwemmt wirst Tyrnos

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:28

>>34
Lol, what?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:29

>>37
Don't post that shit here, who the hell do you think you are?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:30

She doesn't look bad, still woukd want to fuck the shit out of her and cum inside or on her tits or face.

Typischer Satz für einen der Anime schaut. Gott, seid ihr geistig unterentwickelt

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:32

>>39
Why don't you go tell that person yourself? Not many people are going to read your shit here.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:34

>>38
who the hell do you think you are?

I know that I'm god, so I do what I want. Not like you guys who are to stupid to think

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:37

>>41

Bold claims my shitposting friend. Gonna need some proof. If you're so great, you wouldn't vent your butthurt here and face those you despise. But here you are taking it out on a thread that was used by less than ten people. :^)

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:38

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:39

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:39

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:40

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:40

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:41

What a disgusting and fatty cow.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:41

Tyrnos, wie sauer bist du?!?!?!?!?!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:42

TYYYYYYYYYRNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:43

>>42
less than ten people

Yeah, keep crying. Greatest pleasure ever

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:43

Cute, you have nothing to say so you resort to spam. How amusing. What's even funnier is you think I'm one of your German friends from that forum. I don't think there's anyone left here save for the two of us.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-04 9:45

>>51
The threads have always been browsed by a small community. I'm just sticking around in hopes of understanding why you are doing this childish act. There are other places to discuss animation, the loss of this thread doesn't mean much.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-05 3:02

Hey Jungs und Mädels, alles fit im Schritt? Bei mir auf jeden Fall. Wenn ich nur an gestern denke, kriege ich sofort nen Ständer, sooo gut war das gestern. Besser als Sex!

Man, bin ich gut! In der Tat würdig als Gott bezeichnet zu werden!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-05 3:04

Danke Tyrnos, dass du dich immer wieder bereit stellst, die Rolle des Deppen zu übernehmen. Bin dir dafür wirklich dankbar!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-05 3:57

>newfags
>cancer
>>/b/

So schwer sich einzugestehen, dass man schlechter in etwas ist als andere? Mein Gott, ihr stellt euch ja an wie Mädchen. Aber ganz ehrlich, ihr und eure Freunde lachen über so dämliche Witze?


>alright be cool harrison. eveythings fine. you're just gonna get yourself a slice and sit back down. man maybe it wasn't such i good idea to smoke that doob with leto and mcconaughey. I'm not a kid anymore.

>there are only 40 million people watching me right now. just act natural. do i look weird right now? i bet i look weird right now. this is worse than that time ridley slipped me that acid on the set of blade runner. hauer always gets credit for tears in rain, but you try keeping your cool when you see the millennium falcon come barreling out of your co-stars right nipple mid-scene. what the fuck is on this shit anyway? jesus ford just pick the fucking thing up. dont get lost in the details.

>alright that looked way to suspicious. we need some damage control. shit shit shit shit. oh i got it! ask for a napkin! a man blitzed out of his skull wouldnt ask for a napkin, right? who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to let a teenage boy host the oscars? the times they are a changin i guess.

>alright just sit back down. relax. its over. you nailed it bud. now you got this bitchin pizza and all these fags are none the wiser. you still got it ford.

>you still fucking got it.


Das ist Teenie-Niveau. Nur ein Beispiel

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-05 5:31

Und nicht zu vergessen: Ihr schreibt nicht wie ein Anon!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-05 5:43

>>53
the loss of this thread doesn't mean
It does to me, since it’s the only anonymous English one for it.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-05 6:16

>>58
Well then, how do we get rid of our autistic German shitposter?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-05 12:12

Are you a fucking retard?

I don't know, are you?


Warum gibt es immer noch keine Antwort auf die Gegenfrage? Er hat schließlich nichts falsches gesagt, oder? Oder könnt ihr nicht antworten, weil ihr noch nie ein Buch in den Händen gehalten habt?

Das erklärt natürlich so einiges...

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-05 12:21

>>58
It does to me

Oh yeah, it did to me too at some point


>>59
how do we get rid of our autistic German shitposter?

You really think there might be a way? Shows how desperate you are. Again, let me tell you that as long as you retards from aniPodium (and the german blogs) are still doing their shit, I will NEVER even think about to stop.

I really can't believe that the sakuga crowd is keep going with that bullshit and still want to protect them, although they're the reason for all that.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-05 13:48

Do people actually care about the oscars, because according to the academy awards Ben Hur, Titanic, and LOTR: The Return of the King are the greatest movies ever made

Oh Gott im Himmel. Das toppt ja sogar fast die Sache mit TDK

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-05 14:12

I guess the only way is to kill all Germans.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-05 14:57

Hasn't been scanlated the second chapter of Stealth Synphony from the ESJ yet?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-06 18:18

Holy shit kid you need to be at least 18 to post here.

You come from reddit don't you?

Ich frag mich schon, warum ihr stets auf solch subtile Mittel greift um meine Aufmerksamkeit zu erzeugen, aber wie Idioten rüberkommt. Woran das wohl liegen mag?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-06 18:24

Ja ja, ich sehe schon, es gibt für mich einfach keinen Grund von euch zu lassen, ihr bietet einfach zu gutes Material (neben anderen Gründen)

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-06 18:26

Never forget:

TDK is a great movie

TDKR isn't a shit movie

Interstellar will be the new 2001

And Nolan is a good Director, his movies are thought-provoking!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-06 18:55

nice counter argument you fucking pleb faggot.

OMG, ernsthaft?

Seriöse Frage: Warum glaubt ihr, mich mit Schleimerei oder was auch immer kontrollieren zu können? Abgesehen davon, habe ich keine Regeln gemacht oder so

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-07 3:23

http://i.imgur.com/xC25it1.png

Wow, it's even worse than expected, Nazitards from aniPodium.

From left to right, top to bottom
Listing all movies

Most retarded thing I've seen in a while, but not surprising coming from the guys who write something like


>alright be cool harrison. eveythings fine. you're just gonna get yourself a slice and sit back down. man maybe it wasn't such i good idea to smoke that doob with leto and mcconaughey. I'm not a kid anymore.

>there are only 40 million people watching me right now. just act natural. do i look weird right now? i bet i look weird right now. this is worse than that time ridley slipped me that acid on the set of blade runner. hauer always gets credit for tears in rain, but you try keeping your cool when you see the millennium falcon come barreling out of your co-stars right nipple mid-scene. what the fuck is on this shit anyway? jesus ford just pick the fucking thing up. dont get lost in the details.

>alright that looked way to suspicious. we need some damage control. shit shit shit shit. oh i got it! ask for a napkin! a man blitzed out of his skull wouldnt ask for a napkin, right? who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to let a teenage boy host the oscars? the times they are a changin i guess.

>alright just sit back down. relax. its over. you nailed it bud. now you got this bitchin pizza and all these fags are none the wiser. you still got it ford.

>you still fucking got it.


and laugh about it. The list also doesn't make sense, movie-wise. Best way to show how retarded newfags (and germans) are

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-07 3:27

Ich glaube, es ist an der Zeit euch richtig berühmt zu machen. Nicht wahr, Tyrnos you motherfucker?!?

Soweit ich weiß, gehst du auf die 30 zu, bist wahrscheinlich schon soweit. Ist es dir nicht peinlich so zu sprechen?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-07 3:38

Ach ja, weil es Kaito Hasegawa so sehr stört:

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-07 3:39

Newfags

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-07 3:39

newfags

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-07 3:39

NEWFAGS

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-07 3:40

NewFags

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-07 3:40

New fags

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-07 3:42

fags new

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-07 3:43

sgafwen

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-07 3:48

Anipodium nazis, that's a really bad and retarded thread that you have made:

https://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/42204935

What you think about that "joke" of yours and the result is even better:

SOMEBODY SHOOP THIS NOW. LET'S MAKE HISTORY.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-07 3:49

Also, who's EdgarAllanBro?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-08 5:03

Since we're at it, why don't we mention DarkHaseo too? His "Who want you to fuck" threads on /tv/ were a great contribution, weren't they? That smart wording, openly admitting what's always on his mind (probably the only thing) and supported by Tyrnos of course.

DarkHaseo, are you still thinking and dreaming of Women without Underwear walking around in public?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-08 5:08

In german:

*Heul* Mama! MAMA!!! *Wäääh* Warum reagiert der böse Onkel nicht so wie ich es gerne hätte und erwarten würde? *WÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄHHHHHHHH* *HEUL* *HEUL* HEUL*

Tja, das liegt ganz einfach daran, dass er eben ein funktionierendes Gehirn hat. Das unterscheidet ihn von dir und deinen Freunden. Und nun geh deine Milch austrinken, wie es sich für brave Jungen gehört.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-08 8:14

Whoever this poster is, do they not realise they are equally as toxic and annoying as the people he seems to be 'calling out' and 'hating' - he is wasting so much time and effort getting angry in a place where the 3 people that still come here just don't really care...

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-08 11:25

http://i.imgur.com/QWeZrDU.png

Hell, it's about time, right, you weeaboo scum?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-08 11:37

>>81
Oh and DarkHaseo, you've learned some language aside from your first language a bit by now? Or are you still lying about that illness of yours? And with illness I don't mean your mental illness of course - that is true.

Was always annoying to read your posts where not one single word was written correctly, let alone whole sentences... You know, russia has also internet; or wherever you came from

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-08 12:28

derail the thread

Well, we're talking about shitposters right now

No you fucker, YOU. ARE. SHITPOSTING.


Great one, aniPodium!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-09 9:19

Hey Tyrnos, since it's sunday and I'm in a good mood, I searched and find some nice presents for you. They're about your biggest love - COWTITS!

Here we go

http://i.imgur.com/P97Xhji.png

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Name: Anonymous 2014-03-09 9:25

Since I know that yu can't live without them, I took the time. Just for you! Am I not a nice boy?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-09 9:28

Man, now I feel like a true /anon/. They also visit facebook and other shitplaces to harass idiots and lowlives. Great feeling, I must say.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-09 9:38

Oh yeah, Tyrnos my hero.

I know how a real woman works

I am the coolest on the forum here!


My deepest respect.

You motherfucker!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-09 9:59

Jesus Christ. From Conny, another user from aniPodium (a female):

Matthew McConaughey is the greatest actor right now in Hollywood and so fucking good, I can't believe it

Just because he won the Oscar cause he had lost weight for a role. But you also said something similar about Christian Bale, didn't you? Also

Matthew McConaughey's acting in True Detective is the best work an actor has ever done in any TV show

EVER!!


What the Fuck.jpg.png.gif

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-09 10:04

Conny, I bet you also think Interstellar will be the new 2001, right? Of course, Nolan as director and writer and even McConaughey as the main lead cast.


HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!!!!!!!

IT WON'T BE THE NEW 2001, IT WILL BE BETTER THAN ALL MOVIES EVER COMBINED!!!!

EVEN BETTER AND MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE BIBLE!!!!!

IT WILL BE THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-12 9:54

So is this just one guy talking to himself? Because it’s confusing as fuck. It takes a special kind of autist for this.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-15 11:51

>>100

Moot just like to remove 'education' and worthy threads or links and keep this trash around to poison us.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-16 7:10

>>100
Pretty much. There's probably someone egging him on but it's mostly him talking to himself.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 6:43

It seems it is safe to post here again? Nice. Again some important stuff from the other thread, following >>99 and the reaction:

Hey aniPodium, it seems you were so mad yesterday, that you created even a bait thread:

https://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/42323109

Did it work out? Did you baited me?


And your reverse trolling is even more laughable

https://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/42359958

Not that True Detective isn't shit though

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 6:44

You guys would eat shit straight out of an asshole.

Great post aniPodium

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 6:46

Holy fuck, Trigger is making another anime? But it's an adaption, didn't they say they will only make Original anime? Imaishi is lying again? And what's worse, it's an LN adaption... I hope, the anime will have animation this time though. No need for another Still la Still

The triggernigger are already wet as fuck though, right? Can't wait to suck Imaishi's cock again?


And regarding KLK, one guy of the sakuga core (Murad or paeses I believe) confirmed that the following GIFs are all better animated than all episodes from KLK together.

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/31c169c6a7b0da532dcad5a95580f7cb.gif

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/e3a91157e25822aef90bfc0615320092.gif

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/d678c983cd308da9642ed109cfd8cd7c.gif

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/d9f1acfe77cc040d95196a2bfc48278a.gif

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/359a35319f2acfe0aa3008411aefd491.gif

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/31d1fa88338b6f6e5f6723933fe8e726.gif

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/ca13605886182d0ac03bfd5fb421c174.gif

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/50d6e57d161daca318756cdb7a0a96cf.gif

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 6:47

And some anipodium stuff again


Kimi no Rage Town is entertaining

Yo Tyrnos ya mothafucka, that's not a cool thing to say, ya know? (Am I as cool as you?)

But don't worry, you're not the only one with such retarded statements on that shitplace anipodium:


Guilty Crown is great (Kaito Hasegawa)

Fate/Zzzzzzzzzz is perfect (Holyko/Eshaloti)


Conny is the best though (alone for the reason that there so many):

Steins;Gate is the most intelligent anime I've ever saw

The Dark Knight is the best movie ever

TDKR is a great movie

Nolan is the best director and writer. Ever.

Interstellar will be the new 2001

Christian Bale is a better actor than Robert De Niro

Matthew McConaughey is currently the best actor

Capeshit movies are awesome

Dexter is a great show

Arrow is a great show

Homeland is a great show

Matthew McConaughey's performane in True Detective is the best acting performance in a TV show !!EVER!!

You know, when weeaboo shit like Steins;Gate is intelligent for you, it just mean that you're plain stupid. But no surprise here, you also think Nolan movies are good or even intelligent. And you love Capeshit, Homeland and Dexter.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 6:48

Back to Reddit (anipodium user)

Explain

>made an idiot of himself
   >can't admit it
   >won't admit it
   >maximum damage control (anipodium user)

I'm not one of the guys. Don't avoid the question and tell us, how they're from reddit?

Shit dude I'm on your side. I was saying that's why he brought up Reddit for no reason. It's always some sort of damage control. (anipodium user)

What damage control?

Don't worry about it man. ;) (anipodium user)


AWESOME. SIMPLY AWESOME.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 6:48

Implying Reddit is in any way worse than anipodium

0/10

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 6:48

And don't forget:

Ur mum shit in my mouth it was delicious ;^)

DarkHaseo, so you're also into stuff like eating shit?

FANTASTIC!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 6:49

DarkHaseo, I just remembered, you said something about a realistic drawn mermaid. Can you now tell me where you saw that real mermaid and how it does look like?

I want one for my aquarium. And I swear, I will treat it very good!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 7:00

The ride never ends!

The worst movie ever. I puked larvae and shat spaghetti after watching it.

Awesome bait anipodium (in a thread about the movie Her) coming from the guys who gave MoS and the last Star Trek great ratings

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 7:02

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 7:03

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 7:15

That just give me the best laugh in a while:

The original Star Wars trilogy had CG effects


Anipodium, you truly never disappoint with your retardation. One of the reasons it's so easy to go on

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 7:26

Star Wars was made in 1976

Keep going!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 8:11

Yo anipodium, where are your "this thread is only visited by 2 guys" and "you're autistic as fuck"-posts?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 8:16

And I bet you also still think it was a good idea to follow me everywhere, stalking me like crazy bitches and trying to fuck with me, right?

Look at me and learn. I am a example of how you do revenge the right way you brainless weeaboo scum

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 8:17

Oh and Krak(g)er, I miss you so much! Where are you?!?!?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 9:53

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 10:17

>>116
There's no anipodium here you silly goose. You don't like those anipodium guys yet you spam this thread, which is unrelated to that forum. What gives?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 10:24

your post reeks of bait because of your grammatical error

Really, just

.....

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 10:35

>>120
Guess my bait worked?

You don't like those anipodium guys

There's no reason to like guys like you and your friends. Just like I've proven in all those posts, they're braindead and have the worst taste in everything. I know you will still trying to bait me, but never forget: The text board is easy to control, just as you see. Even in 100 years I'm still here and will be shitposting.

I've told you often enough what you must do, nothing else matters

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 10:47

>>122
Nayx, stop trying to act tough on the internet and go back to your shitty german forum. That's where your friends are, no? Go shitpost among them instead.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 11:25

>>123
Too bad they followed me everywhere. Here on the BBS, to 4chan, stalked my MAL and twitter account, and came even to the IRC. And since the IRC sakuga core is still on their site, i just will have to keep going with my hobby I guess!

Not that's a bad thing, since you all are mad as fuck. Although I gave you so much chances. Guess you need a brain to see it, right?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 11:31

>>124
And don't forget that you still stalking every step of mine. My knowledge isn't for retards like you from anipodium. It's a waste, just keep to your Guilty Crown, SAO, MoS, Nolan, TDKR, [C] and all the other utter shit products you love

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 11:32

It seems you're getting more and more desperate.

Great

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 11:33

>>124
Sounds like you have enemies that only exist in your imagination. Seek some medical help.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 11:40

I still don't understand why you thought I wouldn't put up resistance. You couldn't handle me on anipodium, so you thought it could work here or on 4chan? SERIOUSLY?

>>127
Yeah, Adore keep crying. You see, THAT'S how you do revenge. You simply lack the competence

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 11:42

>>128
Adore/Hibari*

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 11:44

>>128
How nice of you to assume I'm an anipodium user. Hint: I'm not. I do not care about that website or your grievances with the community there. I am trying to comprehend your absurd behaviour though, and it would be nice if you'd fuck off.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 11:46

>>127
Have you finally lost some weight, Adore? Or are you still proud of that fat nose of yours?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 11:52

>>130
How nice of you to assume I'm an anipodium user

Where did I do that? I know quite well that you leaved anipodium even before me, Adore/Hibari. You started a new career:

https://twitter.com/HibariStalker

Stalker. How suitable for you. Too bad you don't know your limits.

and it would be nice if you'd fuck off

But I was here before you and at that time I cared about the thread and sakuga and didn't tried to shitpost

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 11:59

>>132
Guess your obsession with those so-called stalkers of yours has impaired your capacity to think rationally, assuming everyone here is a stalker of some sort. Once again, I don't know or care about you and your problems. I've been here since the first thread and it's really pathetic that you, another long-time user decides to shit up the thread due to being butthurt with some people on twitter or other internet communities. Grow up.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 12:04

See? After all that technical shit you've done and all the people you searched (cause you know nothing about anything), find and convinced that I'm in the wrong, you still can't do anything against me. Even when 30+ people tried their best under combined power to destroy me, you've still lost.

And all that just because I should stop posting. Hilarious

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 12:05

>>133
Yes, keep crying, keep crying Adore

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 12:08

>>133
And don't forget to post like a intellectual blogger too of course. So that other people are easier to convince!

Lol

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 12:10

>>135
Wow, you still think I'm that person? Guess you can't get it through your think skull that I'm not someone you know.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 12:12

>>137
you still think I'm that person?

No, I know it Adore

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 12:14

>>138
Oh trust me, you don't at all. You really have no idea.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 12:15

>>137
And I don't even need some program like you guys

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 12:15

>>139
Oh, I do, believe me

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 12:16

>>141
So what makes you think I'm this Hibari person?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 12:21

>>142
LOL

As I would help you. Stay retarded for the rest of your life. Like I said already, my knowledge is a fucking waste on people like you

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 12:24

>>143
Well done, you can't even prove my identity and then you talk big instead.  You really are obsessed with your imaginary enemies.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 13:08

And thanks to Adore/Hibari/Hibaristalker I forgot to say, that anipodium also belongs to the newfag/normalfag scum that destroyed/is destroying 4chan.

So I guess, there's really no reason for me to stop fucking up your internet life, right? Just as I like it

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 13:10

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/ee5f6e4b3587a2a853aee1c9517a7354.gif

Why is that GIF despite the amount of awful CG better animated than all episodes from KLK?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 13:31

Now that I think about it, Adore, that was also from you, right?

your post reeks of bait because of your grammatical error

Yeah, easy to harass you with such retarded statements. Jesus.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 13:39

animation quality supervisor

Why are you putting that up at your twitter, Adore/Hibari/Hibaristalker? It's not like you know anything about animation. And neither at the IRC nor on your twitter account (the few times I visited) did you talked about animation ever. Just to be cool?

You won't be as cool as Tyrnos though, he's still the coolest guy on anipodium. TYRNOS MY MOTHAFUCKA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 13:41

“I’ll sing a love song to Kal! WITH THE DEAD BODIES OF THESE PILOTS."

Care to tell me, how this is romantic?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 13:42

In german:

Oh Adore, was hast du dir dabei nur gedacht...

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 13:45

hat's a lot of friendship (btw, do we have something decent to ballpark it with in the dailies?)

HOLY FUCK ADORE/HIBARI!! THERE'S A GRAMMATICAL ERROR!! STOP BAITING YOUR TWITTER FRIENDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 14:13

So instead of reddit, all bad stuff comes from /v/ now? You know, /v/ is also WAY better than anipodium. In any way!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 15:11

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 15:14

https://twitter.com/HibariStalker/status/445998404079190016

2loli4me

Seriously? What are doing on 4chan then?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-18 20:08

It's pretty sad when you have to spam an unmoderated text board to vent your anger at an unrelated site because you are too incompetent to do anything to the site in question.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 3:41

I mention anipodium destroyed 4chan and took all the good things from it

Suddenly there are posts on /tv/ against /v/ or Reddit user and newfags everywhere


Anipodium logic, ladies and gentleman, anipodium logic

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 3:48

>>155
Why are you still crying is really beyond me. It was your own decision to go against me. Like I said already:

- Stalking me like crazy and following me to every place (you know where I am even without me posting, just visiting)
- Trying to fuck with me (Thank god no one of you has a human brain)
- Destroy 4chan and turning it into an forum-like state just because you can't accept that you have absolute shit taste and/or are just braindead
- Trolling the BBS since summer

So, as long as anipodium is still around, I will do my best to ruin your internet time and make you also famous

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 3:51

And don't forget, that no one of you do know shit about any animation related stuff. The best proof that you just came over to fight with me.

Now let's see what Adore has written in the meantime

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 3:57

https://twitter.com/HibariStalker/status/446036290635841538

Adore, you still find that kind of kids jokes funny?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 3:58

https://twitter.com/HibariStalker/status/446044145035902976

People shouldn't have lives

How is that funny in any way?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 4:00

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 4:02

Come on Adore, tell us something about animation. Doesn't matter where.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 4:08

But wait, you can't, right? Cause you know nothing about it and the best you can do is to use my own comments and modify them a bit so you can go away with it. Just like in that case:

https://dis.4chan.org/read/carcom/1383774665/182

Anipodium is doing the same thing on 4chan about writing and directing. No interest at all, but still trying to be smart. One of the worst and most retarded places on the whole internet

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 6:12

Oh Kraker, there you are with a thread!

http://boards.4chan.org/tv/res/42593283

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 6:14

Too bad though, you will never have a chance to talk about animation here again

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 6:16

And you know what?

It's not my fault at all!

I also need just to write some words within a few seconds.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 7:15

https://twitter.com/HibariStalker/status/446207071403261952

Is that what you think about all day long, Adore? Penises?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 8:31

https://twitter.com/HibariStalker/status/446243996965163008

Man, Adore, you're a true weeaboo, right? Not only do you watch anime, you even play porno games.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 8:32

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 8:34

>>168
porn*

Not that Adore will think again, I will bait somebody!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 8:39

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 8:41

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/9a24cca6bcc5cbbd44096084cec83d1f.gif

One short part of it was okay animated, the rest was a disgusting slideshow. And yet the triggernigger claim KLK is animated and Imaishi is a great guy AND animator.

Awful

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 15:15

https://twitter.com/sonotoridesu/status/446342715966382080

Adore, you keep being a pervert! Let me guess, it's also some incest shit, right? So you're also into that kind?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 15:16

Haha Adore

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 15:21

https://twitter.com/HibariStalker/status/446347377700769792

Yeah, cause you have the brain of an underage!

https://twitter.com/HibariStalker/status/446348137939369984

195 pounds you mean? Cause it can't be cm, since I know you overweight

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-19 15:24

https://twitter.com/HibariStalker/status/446365725075447808

time to finish #inarikonkon


Yes, just gain more weight you fat cow!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-20 4:46

https://twitter.com/HibariStalker/status/446397341541470208/photo/1

You harass someone with that pic? Or should that be some kind of joke only (idiotic) weeaboos understand?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-20 4:53

https://twitter.com/HibariStalker/status/446416526594555904

Lol Adore, you really pretending you're a guy? For all the people who still don't know it, Adore/Hibari/Hibaristalker is a girl of course, about 21 years old. In terms of her weight though...21 would only be a small proportion of the actual number...

No wonder you're watching weeaboo shit, you want to look like all the anime girls, right? RIGHT?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-20 4:59

She's also very proud of her fat nose! She said it to me on ICQ one day.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-20 4:59

http://i.imgur.com/BWzt6SF.jpg

Which one of these pigs is you Adore?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-20 5:10

In german:

Man, Adore, du bist echt so dämlich, da verschlägt es einem die Sprache. Da warne ich dich noch extra vor und das einzige, was du tun musst ist sich einfach nur zu verpissen. ABER NEIN!!!! Du kannst ja nicht genug kriegen, du kannst erst aufhören, wenn ich nie wieder was schreibe, dann erst bist du zufrieden, nicht wahr?

Na, Herzlichen Glückwunsch!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-20 5:21

Adore's nationality is turkish

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-20 5:21

Her parents are divorced

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-20 5:22

She visits her Dad every sunday

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-20 5:23

Hates his new women, cause she's so mean to little Adore.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-20 5:26

Her dad is so strict religious, he didn't even have internet

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-20 5:27

Or maybe because he know that PC & the internet made you so fat, Adore?

Who knows

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-20 5:28

>>184
Oh no, it was saturday I think

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-20 6:21

A rare On topic post from me.

I watched Disney's Snow White (1937) and holy fuck was that good! With such works you could see that the guys behind it REALLY wanted to give it their all and make it as good as possible. It just shows in every second. What a fantastic movie. There is even more animation than in Alice and Fantasia 1940; all that animal stuff and the dwarves, holy shit.

And today? When people like Imaishi and Watanabe are hyped for a project it turns out to be utter shit like KLK and Space Dandy for braindead otaku/weeaboo scum who just want to see tits and asses with garbage scripts, piss poor productions in almost every way and don't forget bad animation for the most time. Well, KLK had no animation at all...

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-20 6:22

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/3b146fb39cb047df6bd15eee59d12aa5.gif

Why has even that GIF more animation than KLK?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-20 6:27

https://twitter.com/HibariStalker/status/446582156102750208

Then go work, you lazy piece of shit! You think the fat just vanish magically?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-20 6:50

>>189
But that comparison with Shit la Shit and Space Shitty is unfair, since all anime are shit anyway. Both are just even more shitty.

Stuff like Toy Story isn't also nowhere as good as Snow White though

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-21 4:54

>>185
I remembered that Adore even cried because her Stepmother was so mean to her. Poor little fat Adore.

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-21 5:14

https://twitter.com/HibariStalker/status/446716203940446208

wow my handwriting is ugly

Just as your fat nose!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-21 5:16

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-21 17:59

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-24 6:03

Adore, did you started jogging? The best way to lose that overweight of yours, you know?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-26 6:51

Hey! Don't start to write in the other threads anipodium! The animation thread should always be at the beginning, so everyone knows about you!

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-26 6:52

From the other thread:

https://twitter.com/HibariStalker/status/448605520895950848

real food costs more to make than weird plastic or whatever

Wow, Adore, you are REALLY SMART!!! I give you that.

Also, since it's so cheap, did you order it en masse too? Every day comes one truck full with that stuff?

Name: Anonymous 2014-03-28 7:03

Don't forget the anipodium logic and taste:

Kimi no Rage Town is entertaining (Tyrnos)

Guilty Crown is great (Kaito Hasegawa)

Fate/Zzzzzzzzzz is perfect (Holyko/Eshaloti)

Most horror movies are good, unless you have ridiculously high standards


From Conny:

Steins;Gate is the most intelligent anime I've ever saw

The Dark Knight is the best movie ever

TDKR is a great movie

Nolan is the best director and writer. Ever.

Interstellar will be the new 2001

Christian Bale is a better actor than Robert De Niro

Matthew McConaughey is currently the best actor

Capeshit movies are awesome

Dexter is a great show

Arrow is a great show

Homeland is a great show

Matthew McConaughey's performane in True Detective is the best acting performance in a TV show !!EVER!!

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-02 4:00

From the other thread:

Adore seems to have sex with cactuses!

https://twitter.com/HibariStalker/status/451132759365271553

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-02 4:01

Oh and Adore, how was your day with your dad? Did you cried again? What a mean Stepmother!

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-02 4:07

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/4fc0730322bb41ca9bec5293a643bac1.gif

Care to explain why that GIF is better animated than Shit la Shit?

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-02 4:13

Time for weeaboo stories here too!

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-02 4:14

For starters, I follow this blog for the insane amounts of humor that comes from it. However, I didn’t particularly think that I’d be posting on here. So, here goes.

I work at a Food Lion in Tennessee. Now, for those who don’t know anything about Tennessee, let me start by saying you aren’t missing much. There’s mountains, beer, smelly redneck people who are practically a culture of their own, John Deere, and some more beer. Towards what you would call the “inner city” of my town, though it’s not particularly big, there reside the few normal people like myself.

So, I work at this Food Lion, right? Well, it’s on the outskirts sort of. Not really in town, but not really on the mountain either. (It’s ironically next to my old high school, which is actually in a mountain valley. lol.) Well, the kids in this area are completely fascinated by anything with more interest than a blade of grass. When I was in school, the weaboos and whatnot strayed and stayed at MTAC. I knew of a few friends who had obsessions, but I’ve never had that joy of running into an actual weaboo myself. Until a few hours ago.

I enjoy anime. When I was younger, I was raised on shows like Tenchi, Sailor Moon, Outlaw Star, and Cowboy Bebop. You know, what could be considered classics are far as popularity and whatnot. I watch it on my own, and I don’t really associate  too hard with people who like it, even my friends. I just enjoy it more by myself. I prefer certain genres, while they like things like Hetalia and whatnot. That’s just not my thing. I’ll stick to some Trigun, thanks. My obsession, however, comes not from anime, but from KPop.

Truth be told, I just really like asian music as a whole. Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Thai, and whatever else you throw at me. I get so bored with the same shit being produced in the states, and there’s always something cool or different about the music produced overseas. (And i’m not just talking about the language  difference either, lol.)

There’s a popular group called SHINee, and they have these pictures (I’m not sure where they’re from as I’m not a huge fan of them, and I don’t stan them) of them in these animal pajamas. The main vocalist, Jonghyun, wore these cute tiger pj’s. I’m incredibly familiar with them because I just recently got a pair for my younger sister, who adores the group, especially Jonghyun. (Oh, the days of fangirling when you’re young lol)

So, I’m at work. These two girls walk in, one of which was wearing a pair of Jjong’s tiger PJs. As I said, I’m incredibly familiar with these. I don’t know where they’re from, but the tiger set is a set i’ve seen consistantly for the last week or so. lol. So, they get in my check out line, and the two girls are talking. There’s a bit of a putrid smell lingering in the air, but I blow it off figuring it was one of the other customers. As I said, people in this area apparently aren’t familiar with personal hygiene. So, I casually comment. ”Hey, nice pjs. I bought some for my sister. Are you a Shawol, too?” (Shawol is SHINee’s fanclub.)

This girl looks at me with the most incredulous face. The other girl just rolls her eyes and walks away. I’m sitting there holding a box of soap (irony at its best), trying to figure out what the hell I said wrong. She looks at me and goes, ”Excuse me. I do not associate with that Korean stuff. These pajamas are from Hetalia. Except I really like tigers, so I found these.”

So I said, ”Oh, well I know they’re the ones Jonghyun has from SHINee. That’s why I commented. Er, sorry about the mixup.” Mind you, I’m being polite. I don’t like nasty teenagers with nasty attitudes.

I continue scanning their items, and she continues to give me the death glare. Then, and of all things she could say, she goes, ”You know, Korean’s make the Japanese look bad. Only Japanese can cosplay and do it right. One day, when I’m in Japan writing manga, I’m going to make sure Korean’s don’t like it. In fact, I’ll make fun of them.. What’s my fucking total?”

Needless to say, I was angry. Instead of checking them out, I literally walked away. Left everything as it was, and walked away.

I don’t care if your a fan of anime, Kpop, or anything related to the Asian culture. Have respect. Also, don’t be a fucking idiot. Thanks!

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-02 4:14

As a required part of college, I’m suppose to take a few semesters of a language course. Being a quarter Japanese I decided on good old “Nihongo” because I felt I could learn better knowing I could practice within the family.

On the first day, we were asked why we decided on one of the most difficult language we could possibly learn. The majority response, “To watch Anime without subtitles” or “To read Japanese Manga.” I rolled my eye at the thought that most of my class being weebs, but it was eventually put to the back of my mind. But it wasn’t until this girl, let’s call her P, who would always resurrect that tumor-us thought.

She would wear rather obscure clothing and sit in the corner of the room and read her manga while the professor taught the class. And the way she spoke…I swear based on the way she sounded, her motivation for taking the class to be a anime voice actor from Japan. It was like listening to a Japanese school girl if she had her voice box has been thrown into a blender.

Eventually we got to a section of Japanese 1 where we learned about different form of questions. Today’s example, the “WHO” form. An exercise we did that day involved one person sitting facing away from the rest of class and would try to guess another person in a class based on the sound of their voice, who would say “Who am I?” in Japanese.

One boy, we’ll call him Y, was chosen to sit in the chair and guess while P was picked to be the speaker. Now the other students would actually have trouble making out the voices, since we all really didn’t know one another, and would have 3 guess before we switched people. But once P opened up her mouth of Sugoi he immediately knew and responded with out skipping a beat, “P-san”.

She was flustered as to how she was guessed correctly so quickly and asked with a shrill, “HOW DID YOU KNOW?” To which Y responded, “Because you’re the only voice in this class that sounds like an anime girl.” I was shocked at how blatantly honest he was, but sadly it was the truth. She, of course, pouted the rest of the class and hid her nose in one of her mangas trying to ignore everyone else. And I never saw her again after that semester.

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-02 4:26

>>200
I've got something to add. Anipodium made a new chart, still retarded and bad as fuck - just like it's user.

Anipodium's horror chart:

http://i.imgur.com/oDYWCHP.jpg

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-02 4:30

>>201
Adore seems to have sex with cactuses!

I mean Adore "wish to have sex" of course. Not like anyone wants to fuck a fat cow, who's also a disgusting land whale

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-02 4:32

How's your fat nose doing, Adore/Hibari/Hibaristalker?

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-02 8:59

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/e7d31b9d5cadea1e009bb7363e7a23f8.gif

Does this gif also has more animation than KLK?

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-02 22:27

>>206
tumor-us
How does this even happen?

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-03 8:48

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/678bdf065aeb8c244989bb981da6188d.gif

Why is that GIF better animated than all episodes from KLK?

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-03 10:23

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/e3afb2530493de949feacea0f025e0f9.gif

Why is even that GIF better animated than KLK?

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-03 12:18

http://i.imgur.com/sNuYPGZ.jpg

Holy fuck Tyrnos, you motherfucker, Scarjo is still getting uglier! What shall we do?

You still fapping hard to her pics?

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-05 3:16

Tyrnos my motherfucker, you can always rewatch Lost in Translation though.

Too bad she turned into an ugly bitch after that

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-05 4:47

http://i.imgur.com/hILi3C5.jpg

Woah Adore, for a second I thought 4chan had posted a pic of you.

But then I realized you're much fatter

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-05 5:11

>>216
Adore/Hibari/Hibaristalker*

Fixed it

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-05 5:51

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-05 5:53

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/89cbd0d0aa7aa50c1db689f61388b24b.gif

Is that gif better animated than all episodes from KLK?

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-05 6:43

western animation is poor quality

Great one anipodium! Japanese animation is the best in the world, right?

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-05 16:06

Holy fuck, you have webm now?! Need to modify the famous question then

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-05 16:08

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/e3c782a3b8812e6b8ecd67c00c8c151f.webm

Is that ----------->webm<------------ (every second!!) better animated than all episodes from KLK?

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-06 4:18

Frozen has worse writing than TDKR

Anipodium strikes again!

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-06 4:21

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-06 4:24

Frozen
Kids movie

Every time.

Weeaboos really are retarded and jealous of a better medium

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-06 4:52

https://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/43150299

This thread. Just fantastic! Capeshit fags (anipodium is also there of course) are almost as bad as weeaboos

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-06 6:40

Daily reminder:


Kimi no Rage Town is entertaining (Tyrnos)

Guilty Crown is great (Kaito Hasegawa)

Fate/Zzzzzzzzzz is perfect (Holyko/Eshaloti)

Most horror movies are good, unless you have ridiculously high standards


From Conny:

Steins;Gate is the most intelligent anime I've ever saw

The Dark Knight is the best movie ever

TDKR is a great movie

Nolan is the best director and writer. Ever.

Interstellar will be the new 2001

Christian Bale is a better actor than Robert De Niro

Matthew McConaughey is currently the best actor

Matthew McConaughey's performane in True Detective is the best acting performance in a TV show !!EVER!!

Capeshit movies are awesome

Dexter is a great show

Arrow is a great show

Homeland is a great show

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-06 19:17

>>225
It's the same medium you stupid shit.

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-07 6:00

https://twitter.com/HibariStalker/status/453069961255088129

https://twitter.com/HibariStalker/status/453071444344598528

Oh come on Adore, everyone knows already that anime are made for braindead idiots (Otakus and Weeaboos), so of course it must be dumb. And yes, almost all anime are very stupid

Not like you should complain about the stupidity of others

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-07 6:00

>>228
Hey weeaboo scum from anipodium!

What is the same medium? Care to explain?

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-07 6:10

Oh Adore, did you started with the jogging already? You know, you can always run to your father on saturdays. There you can sleep after that the whole time and don't need to cry because your stepmother was so mean again!

Name: Anonymous 2014-04-07 6:26

http://sakuga.yshi.org/data/e2690359202ab2910feade3a42f96fa7.gif

I'm not sure, but is that GIF also better animated than KLK? Please help

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