>>763
No Aninari there, he just showed up in the first WA because it was at Seven Arcs. He isn't even involved with the original games so I doubt he'll be there.
I checked sakugawiki and apparently he worked on nearly every episode of the previous series. Has anyone seen it?
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Anonymous2013-04-06 22:36
>>767
I have. He did some short cuts in pretty much every episode, they're nice but not enough to justify watching the series for that. The production values aren't low either but it's not a sakuga anime by any stretch of the imagination. You know how slow Aninari is, so you can guess how short his cuts are considering he showed up in so many episodes.
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Anonymous2013-04-06 22:43
>>757
Neat, can't wait to be able to watch it. Hope every episode is a treat of web-kei goodness.
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Anonymous2013-04-06 22:43
when for a new macross in 2d with itano/miraki circus ?
and special effect from Anno ?
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Anonymous2013-04-06 22:52
>>770
If you want to see some recent animation from Anno, I think he did some work in Rebuild?
You think? All I see is standard, unimpressive animation.
We must have different definitions of sakuga :P
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Anonymous2013-04-07 0:15
>>774
It's pretty stylish stuff, and did you not see the cool background animation as well?
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Anonymous2013-04-07 0:22
>>775
The animation is not bad by any means, it's actually pretty polished, but it doesn't look like something to write home about either. The movement looks really generic to me.
>>777
Well, basically it's the kind of movement that you can see in every other anime ever. Basic anime stuff that doesn't look bad, but doesn't look impressive either. It's not the kind of movement that is so good or so unique that it leaves an impression on you and makes you wonder who did that part. It's not Shingo Yamashita, or Yutaka Nakamura, or Hironori Tanaka, or Yoshimichi Kameda, to make a few examples. It's a really generic kind of animation that looks fine and dandy, but doesn't make you want to watch it a second time.
That's my impression, at any rate.
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Anonymous2013-04-07 0:59
>>778
So it's the timing of the animation that you don't find to be impressive? How would you describe "generic" movement, I'm not to clear on that point of yours.
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Anonymous2013-04-07 1:05
>>779
"basically it's the kind of movement that you can see in every other anime ever."
This is how I would describe it. Go watch a moderately well animated episode from an average series that doesn't feature big names and you'll get what I mean.
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Anonymous2013-04-07 1:49
>>776 it's actually pretty polished
C'mon. It's not polished at all.
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Anonymous2013-04-07 2:08
Web-kei animators learned by copying. This is probably why their animation looks kinda generic sometimes.
It's not the kind of movement that is so good or so unique that it leaves an impression on you and makes you wonder who did that part. It's not Shingo Yamashita, or Yutaka Nakamura, or Hironori Tanaka, or Yoshimichi Kameda, to make a few examples.
I really hate this part of sakuga-fandom.
There are tons of good animation out there that never got discussed because "it's not different enough" or "We can't name who did it". Good animators who aim to create animation that fits well with the style of the anime was never appreciated enough.
Well, I guess sakugafags don't really care much about animation itself but they're just a bunch of fanboys of animators.
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Anonymous2013-04-07 2:55
>>782
The point is not being different enough. The point is being good enough to stand out. If it's not good enough to stand out in some way, then it's not "sakuga", it's just animation.
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Anonymous2013-04-07 3:01
>>782
"Web-kei animators learned by copying. This is probably why their animation looks kinda generic sometimes."
Or maybe there are simply good web animators and bad web animators, just like with traditional animators.
Good animators are good enough to come up with their own style, mediocre animators don't and that's why their work look generic.
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Anonymous2013-04-07 3:28
>>783 If it's not good enough to stand out in some way, then it's not "sakuga", it's just animation
Maybe we should change the name of these threads back to Sakuga thread after all
>Good animators are good enough to come up with their own style
Sometime good animator just
Do you think that Disney animators were not bad because they all animated in the same style too?
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Anonymous2013-04-07 3:36
Well, guess what: japanese animation is pretty different from Disney.
I think it's better to discuss sakuga on an imageboard.
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Anonymous2013-04-07 3:43
>>786 japanese animation is pretty different from Disney
And?
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Anonymous2013-04-07 3:48
The americans never mastered 2D animation, Milt Kahl was the only guy at disney who was on the same level as Inoue but now, Inoue already broke Milt's limit.
The japanese mastered 2D animation with Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Iso, Ohira, Okiura.
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Anonymous2013-04-07 3:54
>>788
And the average anime animation is pretty crappy compared to Disney's. Disney's stuff is always highly polished, the average japanese animation is not. Disney stuff may look great even if nothing stands out, but that's not the case with your average anime. In mass produced anime, the stuff that looks good IS the one that stands out. A mix of bad and good animators work on those series, and the animators that are truly good WILL end up standing out.
I don't believe Disney production work like that at all. You can't compare Disney to mass produced TV anime to make a point.
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Anonymous2013-04-07 4:01
>>790 and the animators that are truly good WILL end up standing out
We didn't even know who Takafumi Hori was until Redline sakuga MAD was made.
And we have someone like Arasan...
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Anonymous2013-04-07 4:07
Takafumi Hori is an animator.
Arasan is sakugaman.
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Anonymous2013-04-07 4:07
>>791
I remember the Takafumi Hori scenes in Shippuden #26 standing out for their quality. We may have not know the name of the animator back then, doesn't mean his skill isn't noticeable.
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Anonymous2013-04-07 7:03
9 old men>>> Iso, Ohira, Okiura, etc
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Anonymous2013-04-07 7:13
>>794
If they are so good, why don't they have any sakuga mad?
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Anonymous2013-04-07 7:13
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Ok guys, this thread is full of retards again.
Again we have pointless discussions about this nigger is better than that nigger and americans or japanese are the best. Go have a life you fucks!
Call me back when all the retarded fuckers are gone.