Animation Appreciation Thread #3

The Sakuga Wiki [JP] - http://www18.atwiki.jp/sakuga/
ANN Database - http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/

Animation Blogs [Eng]:
http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/
http://aninomiyako.wordpress.com/

Animation Twitters [Eng]:
http://twitter.com/raito_kun
http://twitter.com/Duune99
http://twitter.com/kyouray
http://twitter.com/catsuka

Previous threads:
#1 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1291816034
#2 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1314681601

I want to move away from using the term "Sakuga" as it often alienates people and can be misleading. There has been a bit of backlash against the Sakuga movement lately, and I'd like to think many people come to this thread to talk about the animation and visual aspect of anime, which is something that often gets overlooked elsewhere. It would be nice if we could get a wider appreciation of visuals in the anime fandom without being seen as elitists.

Anyone here watch Lagrange? I think mecha animation in Lagrange feels a little weird. It looks like hand-drawn but it feels like 3DCG. I thought they only use 3DCG for transformation. The character animation looks really good though.

>>601
It could be possible they rotoscope the 3D CG models? I haven't really watched the show.

>>601
The mecha looks hand drawn to me. Like you said, the CG is used only during transformations.

>>588

I can't believe how awesome that list of animators is. Didn't think we'd see Anno animating again. I also hope we'll be able to see the episodes of that documentary somehow.

Ohira: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuQvc37IQd8

>>605

Ohira has blown me away yet again.

>>605

that's a pretty beastly key animator list. Kameda, Okiura, Sakiyama, Fukushima, Nishio etc

though I couldn't discern anyone's style because of lol Ohira's "clean up" work

I just got the chance to actually sit down and watch the whole 10 minutes of Asura's Wrath DLC and wow! It's a truly remarkable showcase of these great animators.

>>607

Really? I haven't had a look at the full key animator list but I think there wasn't too much correction. Rather, the styles of different segments are very individualistic.

You could definitely spot Kameda's movements and rough lines in there, and there are bits in there that look like they couldn't be anyone but Ohira himself. Then there's some on-model and 'realistic' parts that are likely Okiura/Nishio.

It'd be great to have a discussion about this!

>>605
Wow, that was some awesome animation. I wasn't expecting some gameplay elements to be incorporated into the animation itself.

>>607
>>608
I don't know if this right but i think KA names order are related to the scenes they animate for example i think Kameda part is 05:02 after that i think Hokuto Sakiyama from 05:40

I love that Asura DLC video, it's amazingly animated.
Though I wish people would stop making comments like
>"I love all these peasant´s comment, totally ignorant about Ohira."
I mean, why would you expect video gamers to know animators from Japan? Even if they say they don't like, you don't have to behave all elitist and begin to say - Oh those video games are so silly, they don't understand my SAKUGA.

This is the thing I dislike about the 'Sakuga' community, always get very aggressive when people outside of their circle says something bad about their precious Sakuga.

I repeat, I really enjoyed the video, but that's just something I noticed.

>>610

No, they'll be in order of who did the most cuts.

>>605
Ohira, Okiura, FukuAtsu, Miyazawa, Nishio, Sakiyama, Kameda, Kutsuna

Holy fuck man, Is this real life?

Miyazawa's scene is unmistakeable.

Bahi just tweeted a clean version without the annoying commentary
https://twitter.com/#!/bahijd/status/185040355345969153

>>614 Miyazawa's scene was totally him. I couldn't find Nishio's cut.
I thought he did the beginning but that was probably Okiura.

I hope someone re-release the video with KA names

>>611
You can clearly tell the people complaining are the same type of people "trolling" good animation on /a/ (when really they're being completely sincere) and that others enjoyed this quite a bit.

Some random normalfag who's into Japanese games, the type of person who enjoys games like Okami, would instantly realize that this is meant to be sketchy and have a weird look to it. It's not the appreciation of "sakuga" that is a learned behavior, but the kneejerk negative reaction to anything that looks different. People read on websites like TVTropes that "off model" is bad, that sketchy art is bad, etc, so they suddenly start going "ANIMATION FAIL XD" when they normally wouldn't have done that or been seriously bothered by it.

In fact, the idea that you have to be a "sakuga expert" to appreciate such visuals seems more smug to me than just calling Naruto kids dumb. Even freaking mainstream music videos use artwork like this.

>>617
ps I'm not saying the guy who went on about "FUCKING PLEBS" isn't wrong in what he did/isn't a broken asshole without the tiniest hint of self awareness, I just hate this idea that you need to be super knowledgeable and memorize key animators and obsess over animation to not go "FAIL QUALITY XDDD" at anything that looks creative.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-03-29/akira-otomo-inspires-short-peace-anime-omnibus

Man, how come no one's talking about this?

>>615

Man that's awesome, but often times I got lost in the animation that I didn't know what was going on and which is which. This is probably firs time that I got confused of which limb am I looking at.

>>620
It doesn't help he had no arms.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUmBwuWHwLY&feature=player_embedded

Sakamichi No Apollon PV

http://youtu.be/8owoGJntHJw

Bahi is the only one listed for key-animation so far, lol.
He said he is working on a later episode, so I guess we will probably see his work on episode 10 or  whatever.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=13944

Can't wait for Yoko Kanno's tracks, not a big jazz fan but Kanno is a genius.

>>623
Lol, who added Bahi JD to ANN already?

wow less than a week till Lupin III

I'm not really prepared for what Spring has in store for us

>>625
HELL YEAH KOIKE!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTg6wn0IrS0
Umakoshi
Mitsuko Baba
Terumi Nishii
Yuuki Hayashi
Takeshi Morita
Hiroya Iijima
Ken Otsuka
Naotoshi Shida
Michi Himeno
Shingo Araki

>Shingo Araki

wait... what?

>>628
He probably worked as concept designer before his death and then Umakoshi takes over.

>>629

Yeah, but he has a key animation credit...

maybe Omega was in production for a long time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXqJNdIV2Yg

Guys who do you think did this?

Doesn't look like KyoAni to me. Anyone agree it seems more like A1/AICs work?

I don't give a shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWX4TEiD9tg
Director: Tomoshiko Ito
Character Design: Shingo Adachi
Action Director: Takahiro Shikama
Main Animator: Atsushi Saito

>>632

That PV was done by White Fox. Looks really good for them.

>>632
The PV doesn't have much animation.
It could be done entirely by KEY.

>>630
>>629
The still drawing at the start of the OP could be Araki?
http://i.imgur.com/P1Q0R.jpg

>>630
>>629
The still drawing at the start of the OP could be Araki?
http://i.imgur.com/P1Q0R.jpg

Ishihama New World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCercp1jDfE

illustrated by Kubota Chikashi
http://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/shinsekaiyori/img/bg_main.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6zS6qjngw0
Key animation:
Yuki Hayashi
Naotoshi Shida