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Animation Appreciation Thread #3

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 12:37

The Sakuga Wiki [JP] - http://www18.atwiki.jp/sakuga/
ANN Database - http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/

Animation Blogs [Eng]:
http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/
http://aninomiyako.wordpress.com/

Animation Twitters [Eng]:
http://twitter.com/raito_kun
http://twitter.com/Duune99
http://twitter.com/kyouray
http://twitter.com/catsuka

Previous threads:
#1 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1291816034
#2 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1314681601

I want to move away from using the term "Sakuga" as it often alienates people and can be misleading. There has been a bit of backlash against the Sakuga movement lately, and I'd like to think many people come to this thread to talk about the animation and visual aspect of anime, which is something that often gets overlooked elsewhere. It would be nice if we could get a wider appreciation of visuals in the anime fandom without being seen as elitists.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 5:37

New Hyou-ka preview shots.
http://imgur.com/U6Rjb

sauce from
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-7954.html

Also...

>Jyuumonji Kaho: Hayami Saori
>Eba Korako: Yuuki Aoi
>Tani Koreyuki: Kawahara Yoshihisa
>Kouchi Ayako: Asano Masumi
>Zenna Rie: Toyosaki Aki
>Zenna Kayo: Ogura Yui

Hahaha oh wow....

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 5:53

>>439

I agree with you on some points, but you've got him totally wrong.

Someone just took a few words and put them on 4chan, the whole context is missing.

What Bahi was talking about are animes like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Jin-Roh, FLCL, Mononoke Hime,  Mind Game and many others. (I know these are one of his favourites since he mentions them a lot)

It is not wrong to aim on a small community, but the problem is, the majority of the anime industry is currently aiming on this small community.

Anime once used to be for everyone, but now it's only for the otakus.


Bahi was talking about this on Anipages, he's probably surprised that it landed on 4chan, I think if he knew this would happen, he would have added some few other words to that quote to make it clear.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 6:58

>>442
how did Studio Ghibli actually survived all this?!
They are still able to produce blockbusters even if Moe is dominating.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 7:00

>>442
>Anime once used to be for everyone
Many anime still is.

>but now it's only for the otakus
No, it's not.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 7:32

>>442
You've got the industry wrong I think, the shows you mentioned are Movies or really high level of productions.

What you need to do is filter the last couple of years through the same criteria and you'll realise there are still lots of great movies being made and lots of high level shows as well.

>Anime once used to be for everyone
Many anime still is..

>but now it's only for the otakus.
Not really, if you chose to only look at the otaku stuff, then that is only what you'll see. If you look for good productions, which I believe every year has always had a good 2-3, then you will find them.

We should maybe make a list of "great anime movies" from the last few years..

King of Thorn
Colorful
Welcome to the Spaceshow
Sword of the Stranger
Mardock Scramble
5 Centimeters Per Second
Children Who Chase Lost Voices from Deep Below

Any more?

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 9:10

>>445
Does anyone but sakugafags consider welcome to the Pedoshow great? Does anyone at all consider King of Thorn and Mardock Scramble great? As for films like Sword of the Stranger and 5cm, they're a well done action film and melodrama respectively that are neither better and worse than what live action offers in those genres so they could appeal to anyone - but they don't because only "otaku" care about animation. What you guys think of mainstream is often even more niche within a niche. Old anime fans who are tired of the usual anime cliches watches Noitamina instead of getting a new hobby.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 9:17

Are you guys going to watch the Kid Icarus Uprising shorts? I'm pretty sure they'll be well animated.

http://n-europe.com/news.php?nid=16290

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 9:50

>>447
Will probably watch the SHAFT's one to see how terrible it can be.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 10:04

>>445
Talking to you is pointless

Enjoy your moe shows while Satoshi Kon's Dream Machine isn't getting much support nor money to continue the production.

Moe productions swimming in money, but the film of a great japanese animation pioneer has financial troubles. Why? Because no one cares about anime anymore.
R.I.P....I wish the great masters wouldn't be scared and talk about the problems of the industry. Oshii, Yuasa.....Miyazaki....what are they waiting for?

Some people really have no idea what's going on in the background.
Some still didn't realized why Imaishi left Gainax....some never asked why Kazuto Nakazawa's "Hells Angels" never released.

Please don't tell me that there are still many animes for everyone.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 10:05

>>449
Shouldn't you be in one of those "HURR WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED" threads on /a/? Fuck off, please.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 10:12

>>449
yea, let's get back to "sakuga" again.

Talking about the problems on 4chan won't solve any of them lol

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 10:27

>>450
sir, you can fuck yourself while watching Madoka hentai doujins, I'm out of here.
Have a nice day!

>>445 You have my apologies, I guess you are right

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 10:29

>>441
Wow this is looking really good.

Very excited about Hyouka.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 10:39

>>449
>Oshii, Yuasa.....Miyazaki....what are they waiting for?

Oshii is busy praising madoka.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 11:20

>>454  *epic facepalm

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 11:23

Umakoshi designs for Saint Seiya Omega: http://blog.yahoo.com/trevor_blog/articles/561942/index#

I love Umakoshi; making nostalgiafags rage, one magical girl at a time: http://blog.yimg.com/3/OwqIu4l7s58TxuQbx9IYcOIZ9kRMzvmsXKx7tzzneIfUO4Xl.Q2J1Q--/37/o/MTp7RN5R.4Xkg_TNhvYD6A.jpg

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 12:52

>>449
I just find it funny that you think anyone who disagrees with you is instantly a "moe lover" - you are so prejudiced and stuck up on your high pedestal that you don't even realize what the anime industry was like, right now and what it was like 10 or 20 years ago.

You have this crazy idea that in the past, every anime being made was like Akira, Jin Roh, Ghost in the Shell and Princess Mononoke. The quicker you wake and realize that anime was _never_ like that the better you'll understand the industry.

>Please don't tell me that there are still many animes for everyone.

There is.. You just refuse to open your eyes and only listen to what people keep on telling you.

I'll drop this, but man, you really need to get you head straight, you have loads of wrong misconceptions.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 12:55

>>456
Who is he making rage? The original designs were pretty girly and fabulous, this is keeping pretty in line with that theme.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 12:59

>>449

leave us alone /a/.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 13:03

>>458

The most obsessive fans of the original hate the fact that there is now cloth on the armors, like the skirt.

Name: busterbeam 2012-03-09 13:45

>>460
Holy crap, that's beyond /a/-level obsessiveness.

Well, at least if that was posted on /a/ it would be just one guy and everyone else would make fun of him.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 14:51

I'm watching Saki right now and wow, there's a lot of Hironori Tanaka animation in here. I like his drawings but the timings on his cuts are kinda weird, its like everyone moves in slow-motion/underwater. I didn't really notice this too much with his cuts on other shows. But either way, I guess we expect to see a lot his work on the new Saki spin-off coming in the Spring?

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 14:52

>>460
Those kinds of fans will always be angered. I think these look pretty cool.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 15:08

>>462
>its like everyone moves in slow-motion/underwater.

Watch Yumekui Merry.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 15:25

I've seen Merry and the animation was more appropriate for the timings there, i.e it wasn't typical Tanaka-esque animation

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 15:59

>>462
>>464

Tanaka always do that, he's great

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 17:51

>>462
Saki had quite nice animation quality throughout. I was impressed.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 19:13

>>446
>>449

So now it just sounds like anime doesn't just have to produce popular, well-animated films, but they also have to be tailored to  YOUR tastes? Because a few projects you wanted to see didn't get funding, you're leaping to the stupid conclusion that the industry is somehow dying creatively.

Listen to >>457

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 21:30

Just next season has:

-Sexy seinen (KoikeLupin)
-Dramamedy seinen (SpaceBros)
-Shounen action (Saint Seiya)
-Jousei (Apollon)
-Mecha (Eureka Seven Ao)
-Grimdark seinen (Zetman)
-Non-moe SoL(Hyouka)

The fuck are you complaining about?

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 21:46

>>469
It fucking rocks. My sakuga is ready.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 21:55

Not a lot of hype for Tsuritama huh? I'm reasonably optimistic about this one, for one there's A-1 instead of Tatsunoko on production this time not to mention the character designs and the style of the show are already tickling my animation nerve. I hope it delivers, there's a lot of potential here. After C's disappointment, I'd like to see Kenji Nakamura pull another Mononoke/Trapeze

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 22:09

>>471

I'm looking forward to it and I'm definitely going to watch it. I just forget about it. Just goes to show how exciting Spring is.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 22:12

For me, in terms of excitement, it goes:

Lupin > Apollo > Hyoka > Tsuritama = UmakoshiOmega = MoEurekaAo > Zetman > SpaceBros > Myserious GFX > Fate Zero S2 = GainaxBox

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 22:40

Sengoku Collection is Brains Base x Keiji Gotoh right? Didn't he do Gigantic Formula with them too? A wildcard perhaps. Tasogare Otome has me interested mainly because Oonuma Shin on a more serious project. Art direction in the PV looked pretty ~ef~ish, which is a Shaft that I actually liked visually. And finally there's Natsuiro no Kiseki, another wildcard. The staff certainly looks appealing but dunno about that synopsis. Normally these are the kinds of shows I'd get interested in each season but Spring looks to be an all out sakugabash for practically show. Fairly exciting times we're in, I can't remember the last season that looked so good

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 22:59

Gigantic Foruma's good looks were all Koji Yabuno, and he is busy with Space Bros next season.

And the PVs from Natsuiro Kiseki look pretty dull, but who knows.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-10 1:11

>>474
As far as Natsuiro Kiseki goes, it's pretty much just a vanity project for Sphere and the PV wasn't exactly impressive either. Though I'm looking forward to it as a Sphere fan, I wouldn't expect too much from it, animation-wise. I also wouldn't expect a lot from Sencolle either, though I am a little interested in the character designer Katsunori Shibata. Anyone familiar with him?

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-10 6:08

Someone feed me with new animator sakugas please
lol

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-10 10:44

Hironori Tanaka worked on Nisemonogatari again.

What a waste of talent.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-10 11:18

I don't know what the fuck is going with Nisemono, Bakemono had a lot of Hironori Tanaka cuts and they looked pretty damn good. Nisemono apparently does too, but its animation still bores the fuck out of me

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-10 11:24

Kizemonogatari will be made by Osihi, right? I think it'll be great.
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