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Animation Appreciation Thread #3

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 12:37

The Sakuga Wiki [JP] - http://www18.atwiki.jp/sakuga/
ANN Database - http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/

Animation Blogs [Eng]:
http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/
http://aninomiyako.wordpress.com/

Animation Twitters [Eng]:
http://twitter.com/raito_kun
http://twitter.com/Duune99
http://twitter.com/kyouray
http://twitter.com/catsuka

Previous threads:
#1 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1291816034
#2 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1314681601

I want to move away from using the term "Sakuga" as it often alienates people and can be misleading. There has been a bit of backlash against the Sakuga movement lately, and I'd like to think many people come to this thread to talk about the animation and visual aspect of anime, which is something that often gets overlooked elsewhere. It would be nice if we could get a wider appreciation of visuals in the anime fandom without being seen as elitists.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-08 0:32

>>40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=224WJCAh-pM&feature=related

I dunno if I would call this visual abortion "using it fairly well" perhaps "using it more consistently" but not "well"

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-08 0:50

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-08 7:59

>>42
Amazing.

>>41
Why is it a visual abortion? It seems that ever since someone has been questioning Idolmaster's quality, you are now trolling other shows.
"Only Idolmaster is the best, just look at how poorly these other shows do it!"

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-08 8:51

>>43
Not the same guy, but >It seems that ever since someone has been questioning Idolmaster's quality, you are now trolling other shows.  That is one hilarious strawman you've got there.

On the "why is it a visual abortion" thing, shit did we watch the same clip? It's about as visually refined as a ADHD schizoid.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-08 9:58

Nobody complained about KyoAni using it on K-ON's second season's second OP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oYTwwfFEvw&feature=player_detailpage#t=58s

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-08 13:23

What do people think of the word Enshutsu being translated as "Episode Director" and Sakuga Kantoku as "Animation Director"?

Wouldn't more accurate terms be Technical Director and Animation Supervisor?
From my understanding, the Enshutsu is the one who actually does the directing of the animation by setting camera angels, how the storyboard will be implemented, who will be in charge of what scene and checking the animation being drawn is being acted out properly. Enshutsu also does editing and helps with the sound recording.

Animation Director implies he directs the animation, the Sakkan does not direct the animation, that job is for the Enshutsu, the sakkan's job is for applying corrections in the drawings and setting/adjusting layouts given to him by the key animators.

Thoughts?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-08 16:13

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-08 16:42

>>47

That's just a clip from Lucky Star.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-08 20:03

>>45
Because they do it well. It doesn't look off.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-08 21:05

>>47

Since it's KyoAni's show, it's almost impossible to identify the animator.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-08 21:08

>>46

Kinda agreed with you.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-09 8:33

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-09 11:12

Guy that posted the Symphogear thing here. It wasn't about doing it right or not, it was about the fact that it is obvious when they do it. I didn't actually say that Idolm@ster used it right... I said that they didn't actually use it except for the camera panning things. The dancing animation was all obviously hand-drawn, for better or worse.

Speaking of camera panning stuff, I wonder if KyoAni used the technique for the camera panning scenes in Nichijou. I know Gainax did in FLCL.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-09 11:13

>>48
I know what show it's, the question who did it?

>>50
You're right

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-09 15:22

About the Anime Tenchou thing, Imaishi was in charge of the original commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm83UPreMbE

As for the Lucky Star version, perhaps it was just done in house?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-10 0:53

>>55

Yeah, it was done-in house.

That episode was directed by Taichi Ishidate.
He might be the one who did that scene.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-10 2:40

Matthew Sweet - I've Been Waiting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gQqR8x8dR4

Matthew Sweet - Girlfriend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrzvOEcizRo

Nero - Innocence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S35THmZD_E

Red Hot Chili Peppers - Love Rollercoaster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwKvwD97cf8

X-Japan - X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7JwdujvVuY

Michael Jackson - Scream
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P4A1K4lXDo

Dir En Grey - Different Sense
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0v-8lbgI40

Wamdue Project - King Of My Castle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbQCf8F1JsE

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-10 16:59

>>55
>>56
It looks like KyoAni have great Animators

by the way is there anyone know what happened about this project (Anime Tenchou x Touhou Project) did anyone saw it?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-11 11:56

Does anyone have KyoAni's behind-the-scene videos of Kanon?

They were deleted from youtube.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-12 5:34

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-12 8:25

>>59

I ripped all of them from youtube. But I dunno where I placed them. I'll upload them on mediafire if ever I find them but don't get your hopes up.

Also, Is Masami Goto working in any projects now? I'm suddenly craving.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-12 8:45

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-12 9:14

>>62
Nobody cares when its used like that.. lots of anime do it.

>>61
I don't think so, he's been keeping a low profile these past few years, he burnt himself out a few years ago on some movie, so he doesn't do much work anymore.

(2009) Kiddy Girl-and (TV) : Key Animation (eps 13, 23)
(2010) Break Blade Movie 2 (TV) : Key Animation
(2011) Black Butler 2 (TV) : Key Animation (ep 6)
(2011) Blue Exorcist (TV) : Key Animation (eps 2, 24)
(2011) Working (TV) : Key Animation (ep 6)

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-12 9:52

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-12 10:19

>>47
raito-kun said Mitsuyoshi Yoneda.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-12 11:16

>>47

Holy shit that was good. I haven't watched Lucky Star so this was over the line good.

In fact that single scene tops anything I've seen in Nichijou(IMO).

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-12 11:42

>>66
I mean Noriyuki Kitanohara, damn.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-12 20:54

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-12 23:36

>>68

Thanks!

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 6:53

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 10:46

>>70
Wow.. almost thought that was CGI in some parts.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 14:05

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 14:26

Norimitsu Suzuki finally "graduated" from Bones?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 15:01

灼眼のシャナⅢ -Final- OP2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GJGRqO21kU

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 16:19

>>70
looks rotoscoped

very erotic though

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 16:36

>>75

It's not rotoscope, it's just Norimitsu MOTHERFUCKING Suzuki.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 16:42

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 18:12

Suzuki is just good at human character animation.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 18:30

>>72
Is that all animated on 1s?
No wonder it looks like its been CG or rotoscoped.. Very high quality stuff.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 18:32

>>72

The motion's very nice (the boobs look creepily floppy but I guess that's how people like them), though the looping motions kind of detracted from the overall effect.  I know it'd be tough to keep up the quality for 90s though.

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