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Animation Appreciation Thread #3

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 12:37

The Sakuga Wiki [JP] - http://www18.atwiki.jp/sakuga/
ANN Database - http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/

Animation Blogs [Eng]:
http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/
http://aninomiyako.wordpress.com/

Animation Twitters [Eng]:
http://twitter.com/raito_kun
http://twitter.com/Duune99
http://twitter.com/kyouray
http://twitter.com/catsuka

Previous threads:
#1 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1291816034
#2 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1314681601

I want to move away from using the term "Sakuga" as it often alienates people and can be misleading. There has been a bit of backlash against the Sakuga movement lately, and I'd like to think many people come to this thread to talk about the animation and visual aspect of anime, which is something that often gets overlooked elsewhere. It would be nice if we could get a wider appreciation of visuals in the anime fandom without being seen as elitists.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-07 15:39

How long until Hyouka airs?

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-07 16:11

>>401

Spring. The interesting part? Hyouka isn't even the most promising/interesting show of the season!

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-07 16:36

>>402
Yet, it'll have the best animation.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-07 16:40

>>403

I dunno; K-ON!! was certainly more "consistent" than Tatami Galaxy, but Tatami Galaxy was a lot more daring and interesting in how it dealt to movement and scene composition. I wouldn't rule Watanabe's Apollon out. And Saint Seiya Omega is looking more and more like a love letter from Umakoshi to the memory of Shingo Araki.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-07 18:25

>Yamamoto Sayo (Michiko to Hatchin) directing a new Lupin show with Koike's chara design
Aw shit

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-07 18:27

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-07 19:34

>>400
I'm reading this and I'm like this is amazing! Beyond belief! What kind of smart producer pulled this staff together? A genius that's who...

...."and AnoHana's Mari Okada will handle the series composition."

...oh. Well, Koike's designs will stand out and the staff will surely bring good animators to this so I'm still excited but...

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-07 20:33

Official sakuga anticipation rankings for Spring 2012:

GOD TIER:
Lupin the Third by Koike and Yamamoto

Top Tier:
Hyouka by KyoAni
Saint Seiya Omega by Yoshihiko Umakoshi
Apollon by Watanabe and NeoMadhouse

Mid Tier:
Eureka Seven AO

Wildcard Tier:
Zetman by Takaya
Mysterious Girl Friend X by Ayumu Watanabe Konishi
Space Bros by Ayumu Watanabe and Yabuno

Low Tier:
Fate/Zero 2 by CGTable
Medaka Box NeoGainax

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-07 20:34

>...."and AnoHana's Mari Okada will handle the series composition."
Eh, not the end of the world considered she's written so many other shows. Since this'll probably be very director driven, she'll have minimal influence, like how Aquarion Evol is very Kawamori-esque despite her also being on scripts.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-07 20:37

>>408
I'd throw in Ozuma and Space Battleship Yamato 2199 in wildcard tier as well.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-07 21:00

Don't forget Tsurimata; that's a wildcard, at least.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-07 21:10

>>408

I'm guessing that came from the 2ch sakuga thread?

NeoGainax I get, but why are they calling it NeoMadhouse? What happened there recently?

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-07 21:17

>>412

It's not MadHouse, it's Maruyama's new studio. Did you miss the entire dramatic saga?

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-07 21:23

>>411
Not a wildcard. Nakamura working on an Aniplex funded show at A1 will turn out different than [C]. Didn't Hashimoto beg people on twitter for help with the production when [C] began? That show had problems from the start.

I don't want to say Yabuno's Space Bros designs are bad but they're not as interesting as his Gigantic Formula designs. And honestly I would rather see him work on a show with cute girls. Yabuno Precure would be nice.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-07 21:33

>>412
Mappa = Maruyama's new studio. Presumably where much of the old staff has relocated and where the interesting shows will come from in the future. Hosoda has his own studio as well now. If the good staff have been split between there, Mappa and staying at Madhouse wouldn't that weaken all of them?

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-07 21:39

The Animatrix - Director Takeshi Koike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCVVSXV2okc

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-07 22:37

Wow!
A lot of posts in this thread today.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-07 23:01

>>413

Then why have they said NeoMadhouse instead of Mappa? Given that "NeoGainax" is still Gainax.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-07 23:23

>>418
I propose NeoMadhouse and PostGainax to be used in the future.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-08 0:00

Lupin III - The Woman Called Fujiko Mine
http://lupin40.com/tv/

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-08 6:17

Did anyone watched Yuri Seijin Naoko-san by Takeuchi Tetsuya?

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-08 7:25

>>408
I'd throw in Masashi Ishihama's From the New World in wildcard tier too

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-08 7:54

>>422
Isn't From the New World airing in summer? I hope A-1 doesn't fuck up this show and Tsuritama, they're working on quite a few anime currently.


Any idea who's animating the new Lupin? I'd like Manglobe to return to it's former glory, but Madhouse is probably more likely.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-08 8:44

>>423
TMS. They always do Lupin.

Manglobe is nearly dead.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-08 8:44

>>422

That's summer.

Name: busterbeam 2012-03-08 9:28

the new Lupin being announced + Ben's writing made me want to try out the pink jacket series. he's right that once you get used to the new designs (a step many people have trouble taking), it's pretty underrated and has some pretty fun visuals.

I decided to upload Masahito Yamashita's bits from it to Youtube to show them off more easily:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwuaQ1174_8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91QCnUdLYIE

it's just one frame but I like the gunshot effect here http://i.imgur.com/Tvj5x.jpg

>>421
I did. didn't care that much for most of the humor or the really cutesy stuff, but it's totally worth watching for the animation alone. Minori Scramble seems like it will probably appeal to me more with its tone though since the comedy seems more slapsticky and visual.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-08 12:51

>>426
>it's just one frame but I like the gunshot effect here http://i.imgur.com/Tvj5x.jpg
This reminds me of something Imaishi might draw draw.

Any way, what's a good primer for classic Lupin? I've only seen The Castle of Cagliostro, so outside of that, I have very little Lupin knowledge.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-08 13:03

>he's right that once you get used to the new designs (a step many people have trouble taking), it's pretty underrated and has some pretty fun visuals.

I wonder if Koike's designs will put people off...

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-08 14:40

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-08 17:21

>>429
>referral denied

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-08 19:50

https://twitter.com/#!/bahijd/status/177896211242680320

Someone found Bahi JD's post on Anipages about Moe, translated it in japanese and put it on this blog http://cosmoneapolitan.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-134.html

Huge amount of comments there but I can't read japanese.

What does the title say?
「萌えアニメはアニメ産業を破壊する。アニメーターもそう言っている。」

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-08 20:11

Moe anime is going to the industry, says animator.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-08 20:16

This is pretty funny.

That guy basically translates /a/ threads he considers funny or interesting. Someone in /a/ posted Bahi's post and a shitstorm erupted. The guy in Japan saw that blog and translated. Bahi saw it and posted it on Twitter. Now you're posting it on 4chan again.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-08 20:19

>>395

Thanks anon.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-08 20:29

>>431

Well that statement was mostly wrong anyway but has some merits.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-08 20:50

https://twitter.com/#!/jab_nishii

Looks like Terumi Nishii and the rest of the PenguinDrum gang (Nakamura, Baba) will be working in Umakoshi's Saint Seiya Omega.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-08 22:00

>>431

lol.
I made that troll thread on /a/.
It was translate to Japanese and a guy made a thread about that translated thread on /a/ again.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-08 22:06

Name: busterbeam 2012-03-09 3:12

I love Bahi's stuff and I really admire his enthusiasm, but that comment just seems like an attempt to fit in with the anime fan clique he's chosen. Clearly a lot of moe stuff is being made to appeal to masses of otaku, but the exact same thing can be said about the 'old school' and all the generic crap that was being released then. I understand that it's easier to get worked up about moe when one trend at its worst leads to shows about girls that all have the same face sitting around and looking cute to "soothe otaku" and the older one used to lead to crazy over the top action even when it was shitty and I certainly sympathize, but ultimately it's still a matter of opinion and both can lead to good and bad things.

If skilled people like Seiya Numata and Nishigori want to work on cute girls otaku stuff and that's what they like, then so be it. I think it's good when good animators are working on stuff they like, even when I myself don't like the stuff they like.

Name: Anonymous 2012-03-09 5:20

>>427
http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/index.php/lupin-iii/
I can't believe there are people here who don't read anipages.

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