Animation Appreciation Thread #3

The Sakuga Wiki [JP] - http://www18.atwiki.jp/sakuga/
ANN Database - http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/

Animation Blogs [Eng]:
http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/
http://aninomiyako.wordpress.com/

Animation Twitters [Eng]:
http://twitter.com/raito_kun
http://twitter.com/Duune99
http://twitter.com/kyouray
http://twitter.com/catsuka

Previous threads:
#1 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1291816034
#2 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1314681601

I want to move away from using the term "Sakuga" as it often alienates people and can be misleading. There has been a bit of backlash against the Sakuga movement lately, and I'd like to think many people come to this thread to talk about the animation and visual aspect of anime, which is something that often gets overlooked elsewhere. It would be nice if we could get a wider appreciation of visuals in the anime fandom without being seen as elitists.

>>235
Gyo just looks comical, those Sharks just don't bring across fear.
Naoko-san looks hilarious.
Minori looks adorable.

>>232
Save for a few episodes in the middle, Gundam AGE has been pretty cool in terms of animation. Mech battles are usually always well presented.

Its just hilarious watching it in comparison to the Gundam SEED remaster and seeing SEED looking so damn shit in terms of visuals.

>>235
Minori Scramble looks like "classic" (as in before KnK) Ufotable. Everyone watch Dokkoida please.

What are some well animated shows from the 80s?
Not OVA or Movies, I've seen plenty of those. I'm talking about TV series.

>>243

Space Adventure Cobra

>>242

Ninja Nonsense also fits that description, you know.

>>244
I know but it's well known. Dokkoida is obscure and forgotten only shows up on /a/ in ironic recommendation chart with complete crap on it despite being awesome.

FMA:Milos scenes popping up now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE29HqA-2VQ
Hidetsugu Ito : Beginning and resistance of the lava?
Yoshimichi Kameda : Ed Vs Ashley ?
Yasunori Miyazawa : Giant hands ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgV_WKfCX_c
~0:46 Satoru Utsunomiya ?
0:47~ Shingo Yamashita ?

Did Yutaka Nakamura work on Milos?

Kazuto Nakazawa MAD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKc0JtiS2ig

>>247
Nice to see some of his older works.
He had a very 'wibbly wobbly' style which is cool.

Megumi Kouno worked today's NARUTO Shippuden #248

What are people's opinions of the "2nd generation" Kanada animators?

People like Hiroyuki Imaishi, Masahito Yamashita & Oobari Masami drew their styles exaggerating Kanada's and then worked out their own forms, these are like the 1st generation.

So then guys like Akira Amemiya drawing from Yamashita, Imaishi & Oobari.
Jun Arai drawing from Yamashita (and Oobari too?).
Saito Yoshinari from Oobari

Those mentioned above are exaggerating the "1st generation" guys even more. Do people like these forms?

I don't like Jun Arai's style.

I don't think anyone likes Jun Arai. I don't what he's trying to do with his cuts but it sure as hell doesn't look good/interesting/experimental/whatever.

>>249
It's was Emi Kouno not's Megumi Kouno

>>225
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h4_VLCo-38

Why can't KyoAni just release these materials as a book.
These trading cards are too expensive.

>>250

I don't think Akira Amemiya is really comparable to Jun Arai, his style is much more versatile:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8Cr19MEomac#t=91s

>>253

Same person, bro.

>>252
I like it, it feels more like he's doing a parody.
Though I understand the visual clash that his cuts brings across is not for everyone.
Going from normal/modern shading to that extreme shading is very jarring.

Really he needs some kind of work where he is the chief animator, some kind of OVA or movie, then perhaps, in a setting where his style is always consistent, others might enjoy it.

>>254
KyoAni want to take all of your money.

so, will we finally get a new Mitsuo Iso sakuga MAD or not

I'm getting confused, people announce it and then they don't do anything


but seriously, Iso deserves a 1080p MAD

not all those 240p stuff

>>258
I don't think most of the stuff he worked on even have BD releases.

At the very least you could probably make a clean 480p edition that doesn't have pixels everywhere.

Takeshi Koike Gungrave Interview
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z240/huwm/tkoike_gg_interview.jpg

https://twitter.com/#!/LawofGreen/status/168266238299082752
https://twitter.com/#!/LawofGreen/status/168266257433497600
https://twitter.com/#!/LawofGreen/status/168266321627316225

I can't read Japanese.
What's going on here?

262>>
I think Kitakubo just discovered MADs

>>262
My moon is very rusty, but before those tweets he was talking about copyright violations and videos being taken down off youtube, then being uploaded back flipped.

Basic summary:
Since Blood the Last Vampire is 12 years old, he doubt's it'll be taken down due to copyright violations, so he says please don't flip the video on youtube, he wants it to look proper so that, he says, people might actually want to go out and buy the show.

Then he has a plea to general MAD/AMV makers, he doesn't like to see those "Multi Anime" AMVs, he doesn't like the idea of other works being mixed together. Then he says to Sakuga MAD makers, when you label a scene to an animator's name, make sure you have the right animator for a scene, please don't mix in someone else's work under another person's name. The he says to people, you shouldn't change the timings of a scene as well.

The 3rd tweet continues: we animators pour our heart and soul into the animation, we think greatly about the layout and timings, so please try to understand that (when making your AMVs and MADs) -
I don't know what he says after that.

In this tweet he says
https://twitter.com/#!/LawofGreen/status/168271237800402944
He saw in a certain animator's MAD, that he won't name, there were lots of cuts that simply didn't belong to that person.　It's not that he was not sure, he knew perfectly well who did those scenes because he was the director on that piece of work.

>>264
Was that Roujin Z?

>>264

I understand his points perfectly. I've heard he was quite "assholish" and "disagreeable", but this is perfectly sensible and understanding. He isn't asking for people to stop Sakuga MADs, he just wants Sakuga MADs to be more respectful for the animators.

>>265
I don't know, he didn't specify.

>I've heard he was quite "assholish" and "disagreeable"
Oh hey I've only _just_ realized this is who Raitokun wrote about on his blog. Yeah, his tone might seem a bit direct, but he didn't seem to be flipping anyone off.

>>264
Thanks for the translation.

>>266
He did say that amateurs should stop making sakuga MADs when he raged about the many mistakes in the Kouichi Arai MAD IIRC.

Kitakubo is notorious for his twitter antics. He might look understanding in this case, but he can be quite a disrepectful guy, too. Like when he rebuked Hikaru Utada by saying that she was no true artist because true artists don't get a salary but live off their donor's grace. Or that whole thing between him and Takashi Murakami. With his attitude it's hardly surprising that he's become kind of a maverick in the anime industry. Now it seems that he wants to make his way back into the industry. First by flattering one of Kadokawa's producers on twitter, now he's aiming at noitaminA http://twitter.com/#!/LawofGreen/status/168612504174460928

Speaking of Sakuga MAD makers, do anybody know if mochihan3, 0XMURADX0 and BlueSakuga still make them.

mochihan3 retired from monthly MADs and started working in more relevant animator MADs.

Murad and Blue still make them yes.
Murad's got one or two planned.
Blue's always cooking something up.

I actually agree with Kitakubo san.

MAD makers should take much more care on their MADs.

If you are not 99% "sure" about the animator of the shot...don't guess, just leave it please.

I've seen many wrong credits given in sakuga mads lately

sakuga MAD is a serious business

>>263
Actually he's known about them for a while. He saw & tweeted the Redline MAD made by xMuradx from last year.

>>275

That MAD was actually well-sourced, wasn't it? Based on the KA book, I remember.

>>276
Yeah they used the KA book and talked to one of the animators on twitter about some of the scenes.

Is this the character Bahi JD worked on?
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-double-skullgirls/727032

Yep, check his tumblr feed out he's been posting his raw animation on it today. Character, effects and drawings that were not used but he drew any way: http://bahijd.tumblr.com/

>>278
>>279

pardon me but this is FUCKING AWESOME!!!
Those raw animation on his tumblr are amazing
this one specially http://bahijd.tumblr.com/post/17824991991/bahi-jd-double-crouch-idle-skullgirls


Discovered another gameplay video
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/friday-night-skullgirls/727055

I don't even like fighting games but Bahi's work is just sick!