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Animation Appreciation Thread #3

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 12:37

The Sakuga Wiki [JP] - http://www18.atwiki.jp/sakuga/
ANN Database - http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/

Animation Blogs [Eng]:
http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/
http://aninomiyako.wordpress.com/

Animation Twitters [Eng]:
http://twitter.com/raito_kun
http://twitter.com/Duune99
http://twitter.com/kyouray
http://twitter.com/catsuka

Previous threads:
#1 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1291816034
#2 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1314681601

I want to move away from using the term "Sakuga" as it often alienates people and can be misleading. There has been a bit of backlash against the Sakuga movement lately, and I'd like to think many people come to this thread to talk about the animation and visual aspect of anime, which is something that often gets overlooked elsewhere. It would be nice if we could get a wider appreciation of visuals in the anime fandom without being seen as elitists.

Name: diebuster 2012-01-03 12:42

Good call with the 'sakuga' thing.

Ben's recent Lupin posts made me want to get into that series again. Downloaded and somewhat previewed Dezaki's Lupin film and Gold of Babylon (two that he particularly praised), and they both seem interesting yet almost polar opposites in terms of visuals.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 13:53

>>2
Dezaki's Liberty Crisis was good. There were some neat and quirky visuals employed in that thing.

The recent Lupin special was kinda cool, too, if only for feeling a little more old-school than I expected. Even the designs kind of looked Miyazaki-ish, though I think that's just me.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 20:35

just for those who haven't voted yet,

http://www.pelleas.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=521

Japanese Top 10 animator's


Currently, Iso and Yutaka Nakamura are on the first place but we need one winner

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 20:52

>>4
I think everyone's taste's are way too varied to settle on a single top 10 list.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-04 0:31

What's "Appreciation" ?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-04 2:45

Error: Abnormal reply.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-04 11:39

>>6
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/appreciation

   
ap·pre·ci·a·tion  (-prsh-shn)
n.
1. Recognition of the quality, value, significance, or magnitude of people and things.
2. A judgment or opinion, especially a favorable one.
3. An expression of gratitude.
4. Awareness or delicate perception, especially of aesthetic qualities or values.
5. A rise in value or price, especially over time.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-05 5:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0BlxT-8fXE

What's the first anime on this sakuga vid?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-05 9:49

It's Kaze no Yojimbo but its not.  It's an opening sequence for a slot machine in Japan using Kaze no Yojimbo.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-05 13:27

>>9
Did anybody by chance save all of those videos and could upload them on megaupload or something.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-05 13:37

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-05 13:44

>>12

That isn't a bad OP, the bit at 0:32 is nice.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-05 15:53

Seiya Numata Holmes S2 OP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j9SDmA5TMLk

I really like Numata's animation, but the guy can't just draw at all.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-05 16:19

>>12
>>13
According to /a/ the OP had:
Shinya Hasegawa
Kazuto Nakazawa
Hiroshi Tomioka
Takashi Hashimoto

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-05 20:50

Anyone has a list of all the well-animated Naruto episodes of the year? The Sakuga Wiki numbers them as if they were continuing from the original and nobody else does that. Looking for Naruto 386 is a pain in the ass...

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-06 0:26

A translation of Inoue's interview about KyoAni
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=3932852&postcount=886

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-06 6:32

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-06 6:33

^^ Watch it while it's still there

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-06 7:28

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-06 8:25

Naruto Shippuden' new ED solo work by Shingo Yamashita

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajjPzUaL2X4

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-06 9:24

>>17

>I think that's really amazing. Viewers got used to it and are no longer impressed by it though.

So true for the majority of the fans.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-06 9:45

>>20
Was the OP directed/storyboarded by Ishihara?

The camerawork looks like him.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-06 10:30

>>15
What's going on with Nakazawa? He's sort of been floating around these days.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-06 11:08

>>18
Oh wow that part where there's a strand of hair blowing in Mio's face and she flicks her head slightly to get rid of it...

I love this so much.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-06 11:39

So, Yoshida isn't the character designer in Eureka Ao; he is serving as key character designer, which means he will just do the art for the leads and leave the actual work to Ore no Imouto's Hiroyuki Oda.

Also: Dai Sato and Eiji Nakata aren't involved.

It's over. The original E7 team is gone. Enjoy your "modern Bones" anime.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-06 11:51

>>26
We can still expect good animation from them, it is Studio Bones after all. Storywise, we shall have to see, I really hope they can pull something good off, even without Dai Sato.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-06 12:10

>>24

Agreed, Nakazawa, for a man who worked on Kill Bill, Linkin Part PV, Genius Party.....
it's really random and strange.

are the great master going bananas or what? lol


I think it's the financial crisis that has been bothering the Anime Industry since 2010.

I'm sure, if they had the money/ studio and people, they would do their own shit again.

When did you see one of these Studio 4°c short films lately???
well I didn't see anything...only that EXTREMELY STRANGE FACT that Studio 4°c made a Jesus animation film

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-06 12:38

For Kazuto Nakazawa, he just came out of a big project in 2010:

House of Five Leaves where he was Character Design & Chief Animation Director

He's been doing KA on various projects like Usagi Drop, Kaiji, Digimon, Catherine(game)
Plus he was also in charge of visuals on this music video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0XQS0kJXwk

So it's not like he's been doing nothing as >>28 implies.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-06 13:09

>>29
I've seen Nakazawa in Usagi, but I didn't know he also did KA for Kaiji. I must have missed that one.

I was wondering if maybe he'd left manglobe after finishing work on House of Five Leaves, since he's been drifting around lately. Or maybe he wasn't employed there to begin with.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-06 13:55

>>29
He wasn't the Chief AD of 5 Leaves, though. Chief AD was Yoshimitsu Yamashita.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-06 21:33

Something relevant-ish to the previous discussion about rotoscoped dances came-up. If you want to watch how it looks how it looks when you actually use CG model rotoscope, watch Symphogear episode 1.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-07 0:31

>>32

The scene in question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=OIHviUBiX-M#t=26s

They're using CG model animation and then drawing over it. It's pretty obvious when they do it.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-07 5:55

You're Under Arrest episode 39, Norio Matsumoto solo animation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KosvFchz4w

Name: Nonoriri 2012-01-07 6:17

GAINAMIX: Masayuki, Shunji Suzuki, Takeshi Honda, Kazuya Tsurumaki, Yoh Yoshinari

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZuZEpWvm0c

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-07 12:33

>>33
Yeah, its poorly done there. There is no framerate consistency.
Idolmaster did the CG-rotoscoping better.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-07 12:40

>>36

Idolm@ster only used CG rotoscope three times, actually. OP 1, episode 13 and episode 25. It's pretty obvious to see where they used it: in the crazy panning scenes. That stuff would have been impossible without the assistance of CG.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-07 13:38

Reminds me of how KyoAni used CG as a basis spinning camera scenes for the 2nd K-On intro. They set everything out in CG before inserting the animation.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-07 13:47

>>38

Ufotable used it plenty in Kara no Kyoukai for similar scenes.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-07 14:14

>>39
Certainly, but Ufo seemed to use it fairly well in most of their scenes. The Symphogear stuff just felt very rough and poorly done.

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