/anime/ - Sakuga Thread #2

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-30 1:20

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Name: Anonymous 2012-01-01 14:29

>>959

Really? It wasn't nearly as good as 4. The only good cut, dumbass lead running up the wall while cutting missiles, was like... 10 seconds long.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-01 14:50

idolmaster dans cut praised a lot here it seems
I tell you to know, it is rotoscoping most of cuts. it is cheating not real animetion

行って来ます

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-01 15:39

>>962

Do you have any source for that claim? It doesn't really look like rotoscope to me. In fact, it would probably look "better", as in: more life-like, with rotoscope. Most of the dancing (in episodes 6, 13 and 25) is by Megumi Kouno and you can tell she isn't rotoscoping it because uses a lot of her trademark "unnatural but cool" Tanaka-like styling:

http://sadpanda.us/images/796290-V24H8PX.jpg
http://sadpanda.us/images/796288-MRJ1ZZ9.jpg

The only bit that I think could be rotoscope is the training from episode 18, but according to Yokoyama it wasn't...

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-01 16:40

>>963

Yep. Idolm@ster dancing scenes look, for better or worse, literally like anime girls dancing:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16494852

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-01 18:51

>>962
Only a few people think Idolmaster has good animations. Its above average and has a few stadout episodes, but the quaity goes up and down alot.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-01 22:50

>>965

I don't see how is that different from any non-KyoAni show this year. Not even Bones is able to keep consistency these days, StarDriver, UnGo and No.6 were all primarily mediocre outside of a few good cuts and, only in StarDriver's case, a few stand-out episodes.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-01 22:57

>>966

Consistently good looking shows of the past 5 years:

2007 (best year of the decade)
Dennou Coil
Gurren-Lagann
Seirei no Moribito
Mononoke
Lucky Star

2008
Xam'd
Kaiba
Clannad
Casshern Sins

2009
Clannad After Story
K-ON

2010
Tatami Galaxy
Panty & Stocking
K-ON!!

2011
Nichijou

Now that Maruyama left Madhouse and the Imaishi team left Gainax, KyoAni is the only studio that can deliver a consistently well-animated show.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-02 1:50

Eh, what? Star Driver was pretty consistent imho. Almost every action scene delivered.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-02 11:11

>>961
Sure, but on the whole, the episode was constructed well enough to be exciting, lacking in incredible animation though it was. Makihara did a great job on that department. In my opinion, anyway.

>>967
>Maruyama leaving Madhouse

What? That's almost like saying Miyazaki and Takahata left Ghibli. I find that hard to believe.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-02 11:11

>>968

Not really. Star Driver was filled with QUALITY in the character animation and half of the action sequences were made of recycled footage. I actually made a comparison of it in /a/. Every single time Takuto used his sword was recycled from episode 3. Some action sequences were also rather poorly animated, like Takuto's fight against gigant Madoka.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-02 11:12

>>969

Dude, you're living in the past. Maruyama left Madhouse months ago and formed his own company.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=29723553

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-02 11:18

>>971
Oh wow, I stand corrected then. That's going to leave a massive vacuum in the company, at the very least.

They still have a lot of creative talent left in the studio, I'm presuming, but without a producer like Maruyama and with heavy budget problems, I wonder what Madhouse is going to do from now on.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-02 11:45

>>970

Character animation was pretty good (especially in ep 10), only outsourced episodes looked mediocre. These episodes had at least one impressive scene - 1,2,3,6,7,8,10,12,13,14,16,17,19,23,24,25. So yeah, 90%. And recycling footage isn't a bad thing when it looks good. It's a nice way to save budget for later (here for ep 25).

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-02 11:49

>>Now that Maruyama left Madhouse and the Imaishi team left Gainax, KyoAni is the only studio that can deliver a consistently well-animated show<<

Google before you write some nonsense here.

As already mentioned, Murayama left Madhouse, I bet it's because of the Nippon TV issue.

And Imaishi is at Studio Trigger.

So we will witness some great animation in all these new Studios soon

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-02 11:57

>>973

If we're counting episodes with at least one impressive scene as well animated, then most anime are well-animated, you know.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-02 11:58

>>975

I mean, "as consistently well animated". Fractale, AnoHana and Idolm@ster all had at least one stand out scene per episode. But the discussion was about overall consistency, wasn't it?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-02 12:00

>>976

Dantalian also had at least one stand out scene per episode and I wouldn't call it a consistently well-animated episode, either. And Star Driver's character animation wasn't good outside of episode 10 at all. It was totally halfassed.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-02 12:00

>>977
>consistently well-animated show

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-02 12:09

OK, but then most of the anime in the list above aren't consistently well animated as well. Even Gurren-Lagann had some average episodes.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-02 12:15

>>979

Gurren-Lagann, Moribito, Mononoke, Casshern, Panty & Stocking and Xam'd are the ones I would find debatable. KyoAni's stuff is definitely super-consistent, Dennou Coil is basically the TOP OF THE INDUSTRY and Yuasa's TV shows have their very unique art-styles that allow them to look great from beginning to end.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-02 12:18

>>980

If we're still talking about consistency, I agree. But I still think Xam'd and Dennou Coil are the best animated TV series ever.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-02 12:20

>>981

Dennou Coil is the best animated TV anime for sure.

Name: Test !!EksiaGMYYeT5cFL 2012-01-02 12:23

wawa

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-02 15:58

apropos Dennou Coil....what happened to Iso?

Anyone wanna do a new Iso sakuga MAD?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 4:31

Belladonna of Sadness
Key Animation:Gisaburo Sugii
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg6FDoPe7cY

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 5:01

>>985

Some guy on /a/ said that he's sick, but I'm not sure about that.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 5:02

>>986
replied to >>984

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 5:28

4 years later.......

>And in the process of making the Blu-ray BOX, the director Iso Mitsuo did the remastering personally. Some of the episodes included are the director's cut edition which has undergone re-painting, sound-retaking and re-editing under the supervision of the director.

http://jin.jcic.or.jp/en/anime/animenews/2011_08_11_122947/

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 6:39

Perfume "LASER BEAM"anime.Ver
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qnmjfg4gck

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 7:45

>>989

Nice!

Every time those fags say the dance scenes in IM@S were rotoscoping, I'll show them this.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 8:22

>>989
That's definite rotoscoping, where they wanted you to see the jump from 2D to 3D at the end.
They can still use it in some capacity in Idolmaster.
They had to have used as a basis because the games were all choreographed by human mo-cap dancers.
Even if it was not direct drawing over the scene rotoscoping, they definitely had something with humans in it to use as a basis.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 8:48

>>990
>>991
Thanks for responce.

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SKE48 "Pareo Is Emerald" anime PV
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzIzODU5NzMy.html

Live action.ver
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OenMFm-I5M

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 8:54

>>991
ITT USING A REFERENCE = ROTOSCOPING

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 12:01

>>992

Is it me, or do the faces look kinda... Umetsu-ish?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 12:31

>>992
Do you have a link to the Haokuto no Ken AKB parody, and any idea who was in charge for it?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 12:39

New thread here http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1325612276

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 13:23

>>995
It is this?
Key Animation by Junichi Hayama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dxi1ku54xk

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-03 14:27

>>997
Yes it was, thank you.

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