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Why not pro-rape culture?

Name: VIPPER 2007-08-25 15:05

In the light of pro-ana proclaiming that anorexia is a life style and not a disorder, 90% of the people I know would like to get raped and some consider rape to be a vital part of life. Why not declare a pro-rape culture, with rape-spiration and Tori Amos songs? Maybe tips on how to get oneself raped? It would truly make me happy to see women finally "getting real" instead of just dreaming about it or making stuff up.

Name: VIPPER 2007-08-25 15:35

you mean like in africa?

Name: VIPPER 2007-08-25 16:44

you mean like me banging your mom and future wife and future daughter...and son and cat and dog and i will do birds too. also call me if you have a dead grandmother.

Name: VIPPER 2007-08-25 18:57

No, I mean people who likes getting raped would get together and support eachother, you know, share their deepest feelings about how rape made them who they are, and brag about how they got some last night, and how little they wanted it. I'm serious. I'd be like a rape support forum, but ... Actually, it would probably be JUST like a rape support forum, but with less whining about it and more acceptance.

Name: VIPPER 2007-08-25 22:22

Please show references to notable examples where there are people who want to be raped. A blog to a nobody is not notable.

Name: VIPPER 2007-08-26 0:40

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Name: VIPPER 2007-08-26 2:10

vip quality

Name: VIPPER 2007-08-26 4:13

>>5
All women secretly want to be raped -- you'll find no references to it, however, because this is such a taboo issue.

Name: VIPPER 2007-08-26 5:44

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Name: VIPPER 2007-08-26 5:50

Name: VIPPER 2007-08-26 6:03

>>10
This links to a virus. Don't click. Don't be a sourpus just 'cause you ain't getting any.

Name: VIPPER 2007-08-26 6:41

>>8
so you're saying that we should support a pretty outragous cause on the premise of a completely unverifiable claim? wow, i think that i should start listening to conspiracy theorists more.

Name: VIPPER 2007-08-26 7:25

Name: VIPPER 2007-08-26 15:06

>>12

No, cocksucker. The society would contain willing participants. None of the activity would be unwanted. Fauck.

Name: VIPPER 2007-08-26 15:15

if it isn't unwanted it isn't rape but just dirty sex

THREAD CLOSED BITCHES

Name: VIPPER 2007-08-26 19:40

>>14
Ad hominem attacks makes every argument legitimate.
The society would contain willing participants. None of the activity would be unwanted

Main Entry: rape
Function: noun
unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against the will usually of a female or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent -- compare SEXUAL ASSAULT, STATUTORY RAPE

ZING LOGICAL PARADOX!!!!

also >>15 qft

Name: VIPPER 2007-08-26 20:11

RAPE DISCRIMINATION

Name: VIPPER 2007-08-26 20:14

Stick it in her pooper!

Name: VIPPER 2007-08-26 20:19

Rape worthy.

Name: VIPPER 2007-08-27 5:00

I think rape should be performed by professionals, yes.

Name: VIPPER 2007-08-27 19:49

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Name: VIPPER 2007-08-31 12:33

>>16
OP here. Stop it with your "logical paradox" mumbo jumbo.

1. Women generally (Not all, but enough to start a culture, I assure you.) secretly wishes to be forced to submission. This includes all of my gfs. It's "a woman thing", as sure as menstruation. They consider violence a manly thing, and sex to be an act where the man proves his manliness by dominating them. This is sex 101, guys. Try to keep up, or women will leave you. Call the female biology sick if you want, but it's bloody science.

2. A rape is a rape if it is COMMENCED against somebodys will, but during the course of a rape, and/or afterwards, one can still change ones mind about it. That's why it's called "force INTO submission".

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-02 11:53

>>22
It's not a fetish that's pervasive, dickwad, it's a fantasy. The reason fantasies are so sweet is because it's never realized. But faggots of your mentality use this excuse to vindicate their bullshit all the time. The thing I find most sickening about this is that it's essentially denying yourself; you're hiding from yourself. Too cowardly and insecure to see your character laid out bare and scrutinized, too cowardly to acknowledge that the acts you perpetrate are low, and you are low.
Hang yourself, faggot. You'd be doing yourself a favor.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-02 13:10

No, go rape!

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-06 7:25

>>23
Women wouldn't be genetically inclined to going around dreaming about rape, if there was no actual point to it. I have not yet met a girl who would mind getting raped, because women are submissive to the strong and aggressive by nature, to facilitate rape, because rape is just a more primitive form of mating. That's how we did it back when the human race was free to live in harmony with nature.

With few exceptions (where rape has gotten out of hand and into just violence) real rape victims get over rape pretty quickly. This has been statistically proven in an american survey. Some might get shocked for a couple of weeks, realizing they liked it, but they get over it.

The reason that women nag about rape is really to get attention: Some women don't get any, some women get dumped and want to avenge themselves, and some women just want attention, so they make up these sob-stories about them being raped. Most of these stories are so stupid that police knows they're false.


Name: VIPPER 2007-09-06 10:49

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-06 16:08

Shut up, cunts.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-06 22:11

Rape doesn't exist. Women are created for one reason: to have sex with men. So them doing their job can't possibly be a crime under any circumstances short of the guy strangling her to make her tighten up during sex.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-07 4:50

i go by logic. And ur question is inherently stupid. A lifestyle affects the person adhering to it, not other people directly. FAG BITCH

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-07 19:11

>>29

You're a dumb little faggot. Rape is as much a lifestyle as anorexia is. Girls just need to learn to enjoy it.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-07 19:45

>>22
1. Frogs generally (Not all, but enough to start a haberdashery, I assure you.) wear little yellow hats. This includes all of Archaeobatrachia and Mesobatrachia. It's "a frog thing", as sure as jumping. They consider yellow hats to be a fashion statement, and wearing it to be an act where the frog conveys his exuberance to their fellow amphibians. This is frogology 101, guys. Try to keep up, or frogs will fail to eat insects. Call the Amphibia Anora order weird if you want, but it's bloody science.
 
2. I can make any sort of claim I want but only substantial claims are likely to be true. Merely asserting a claim does not make it true. Please make references to any substantial piece of publication that supports your view where women in general want to be raped because I can assure you as a professional counsellor, that is not the case. If you are truly serious about this and are not a troll (if you are, you're not bad at this), it is up to you to provide logical evidence to support your claim; unsubstantiated claims are inadequate.

3. Rape is still rape even if 'consent' was given after being forced. The person will still have the right to file a police report for sexual abuse because consent was not complete. Also, please don't confuse rape with simulated rape; they are two different things.

>>28
Please make references to any substantial piece of publication that supports your view where the only purpose of women is to have sex with men. Otherwise your claim is unsubstantial and not worthy of discussion.

in before yhbt.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-15 12:43

>>29
Your logic is inferior to mine. Those women who hasn't already had their lifestyle heavily influenced by being "ravaged", are either secretly wishing for it, or making up grand stories about it. The pro-rape culture is already here. Message boards for Otep and Nine Inch Nails are just examples of places where its cultural elite can hang out together, share experiences, and write songs and poems about it. You just need to embrace that suffering equals living, and that there is nothing as hardcore/real/educational as rape.

>>31
1. Lies vs. Truth
2. I'm just sharing my experiences. If you choose not to trust me, that's your loss. My claims are just as substantial as the claims of all women. I could link you to the survey I mentioned, but that would prove little as the main question is the surrounding culture. Just check any of the above mentioned boards, and I bet you find plenty of evidence.
3. That's what I'm saying: It's rape, but they like(d) it. No paradox.

Serious discussion is rare on VIP, but you are really pushing it if you are bent on "substantial evidence" here.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-15 18:14

Not all women want to be raped! Come on, people. Sure some women fantasize about it. But think about it: rapists want the power. They want to see the fear. They want victims who DON'T WANT to be raped. This is standard rapist profile. I don't think it is possible to have a support system to satisfy both kinds of desire--they aren't even for the same thing.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-15 18:34

I was raped.  Didn't enjoy it.

I mean, guys, if you one of you was walking home from wherever and someone grabbed you from behind, kicked you till you nearly passed out then fucked your arse till you bled would you enjoy that?

No, I think not.

Yes, some women have rape fantasies, hell, lots of women have rape fantasies, but who do they get to fulfil these fantasies?  Their boyfriends or lovers, ie. someone they've asked for it.  It can be as brutal as watever, but ultimately, it's just rough consentual sex.  Actually being raped is something totally different.

The thing is, 90% of the people on here are men, so you'll all be well up for rape because you're not the one's losing out.  To you, it's sex, there's no emotion in there, there's no long term effect, it's a moment of butality then it's over.  For women, sex has emotion involved, that's always going to be there.  Being at the receving end will always make things different.  Post-rape there is self-blame, there is fear, there is insecurity.  After I was raped I couldn't leave my house for 6 months, and even now I only go out if I absolutely have to.  I can't trust men anymore, because now that I've experienced one man taking without asking, I think you're all going to do it.  I hate myself, because I think that I was luring them, that they picked me for a reason.  It's a fucking awful cycle, and you fucktards just toss it aside like it's some light little expeirence that everyone should have as education.

>>32 Embrace the suffering that is living?  When you experience this, then you tell me about fucking suffering being living.  This isn't fucking educational, it wrecks lives.  All I've learnt is that I am meat to you.  I am nothing more than a vagina to 50% of the population.  Thanks a fucking lot.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-15 22:43

>>34

women need to learn to get the fuck over it. guys who get assraped in prison usually do.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-15 23:32

>>34
Stupid cunt.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-16 5:42

>>34
>For women, sex has emotion involved

Troll harder.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-16 9:06

>>33
I'm not saying all women wants to be raped. I'm saying it's a natural part of being feminine. Not all women are feminine.

Saying that people rape just to oppress women, or just to be cruel, is extreme feminist propaganda - consider yourself suckered. People rape for numerous reasons, but mostly because both healthy men and women know that a womans will is something to overcome in order to SATISFY her. A womans will is something that she puts up as a challenge, to see if the man is strong enough to overcome her and also strong enough to protect her from rivals. Women may claim all kinds of bullshit reasons for it, like not liking your hair, or your name starting with C, but they're just screwing with you to provoke you. Numerous women has confessed this to me, and some has even asked me for advice on how to provoke men this way.

If masochists and sadists can live on coexistence in SM-clubs, it's worth giving rape the same chance, but I'm just promoting the victim culture for now.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-16 9:40

>>34

We're men - we're not supposed to enjoy rape. It's mostly a woman thing. However, if done by a woman, without the excess violence or bleeding (which isn't at all necessary) I'd pay for it. It's flattery at its extreme that someone would crave sex with me so desperately that she would toss my will aside and fight me for it. I would recognize the emotional urge in my rapist. To not do so would be very inconsiderate and stupid.

Rape doesn't need to be comfortable to feel right. It's not rough sex - that's just a replacement for the DEEPER urges of women. It might be traumatic, but not more traumatic than giving birth, and you don't see women blaming men for that. Men, on the other hand, fight eachother instead, and exercise until your body hurts. That's not, in itself, pleasant either, but it's a "guy thing", and should therefore be respected as a culture too.

"Post-rape there is self-blame, there is fear, there is insecurity." Yes, but it's A WAY OF LIVING, isn't it? Why treat it like some kind of disorder, and not embrace it like the pro-anas? Why not come to terms with it? Living as "a piece of meat" or "a vagina" is a life too. Accepting that your body is up for grabs if you can't defend it, can be a bold anarchistic statement - something to be proud over realizing while others still live in ignorance.

...and I'm not saying that rape is LIGHT education if it changes your life. That's my point: It's heavy enough to be a whole culture.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-16 10:48

men are fuckin stupid idiots

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-16 12:27

>>40
Amen.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-16 16:55

Honestly, I see nothing wrong with surprise sex.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-16 16:56

Surprise sex sounds fun. Rape does not.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-16 17:18

>>38

troll moar.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-16 20:51

>>43
If rape was fun, Trent Reznor would sing pop songs.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-16 21:58

women are worthless fucking cunts

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-17 19:14

>>46
People are worthless fucking assholes.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-18 4:24

>>45

Rape is fun, and Trent Reznor does make pop songs.

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-18 7:39

ITT we tell the world that we should be world heros

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-18 16:20

ITT I AM A GALACTIC HERO

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-19 8:29

>>50
Pro-hero culture, "killing ourselves for a better tomorrow".

Name: VIPPER 2007-09-19 21:33

IN. THIS. THREAD. I AM~

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