How to explode a hard drive

I know this isn't strictly tech, but I felt it's the best place for it.

People talk (on 4chan and such places) of raids by the police on their house to recover hard drives due to suspicions of CP or of pirated content.
I was wondering if anyone knew of a case where someone actually managed to destroy their Hard Drive, either remotley or before anyone could get to it, or any stories of the sort.
Could it hypothetically be fitted with some sort of... remote water filling thing?
Post anything relevant please.

are you retarted >>80? you cant burn a fucking HD.

Hmm, where to hide a wireless capable HD...

Wonder if you could make a USB enabled LCD screen fit into an empty monitor, put in one of those tiny little USB hubs, plug in a few USB External Hard drives, then not give a shit if they take your computer, and leave your crappy old monitor, cause they dun got shit (and make sure to get those things out ASAP if they do come)

Any thoughts about this wacky idea?

Saw the beginning episode of Law and Order once where a guy had a degausing loop hidden by his door.  When the police busted his door down and tried to walk out with the computer, it erased his hard drive.  I'm sure that would work.  After all, I saw it on TV, right?

Saw the beginning episode of Law and Order once where a guy had a degausing loop hidden by his door.  When the police busted his door down and tried to walk out with the computer, it erased his hard drive.  I'm sure that would work.  After all, I saw it on TV, right?

Saw the beginning episode of Law and Order once where a guy had a degausing loop hidden by his door.  When the police busted his door down and tried to walk out with the computer, it erased his hard drive.  I'm sure that would work.  After all, I saw it on TV, right?

and you spammed it here 3 times, so thst makes you evil, right?

Saw the beginning episode of Law and Order once where a guy had a degausing loop hidden by his door.  When the police busted his door down and tried to walk out with the computer, it erased his hard drive.  I'm sure that would work.  After all, I saw it on TV, right?

Saw the beginning episode of Law and Order once where a guy had a degausing loop hidden by his door.  When the police busted his door down and tried to walk out with the computer, it erased his hard drive.  I'm sure that would work.  After all, I saw it on TV, right?

i saw "the core" on tv the other day, and the hacker magneting/microwaving all his stuff made me remember this failure of a thread and lol.

shit movie, tho

Degaussing is weak compared to the coercivity of modern hard drives. That would not work.

even if you have a hidden box in your house, NOT connected to the internet, but connected to your LAN on your main box - you can see still see tracks of the files on your main pc if it were to be copied to the other box

What if you could write the disk driver for your disk drive such that the computer only read/write the last platter when you input a password? If you did it right i'd be pretty hard to figure out what was going on.

>>92
The OS doesn't directly control how data is written to and read from the drive; the drive electronics control much of that. The OS only handles things at a file system level, not a physical one. And if you're thinking about not being able to read data without a password, we already have that in the form of file encryption.

>>94
You can calculate the location on disk by looking at the block offset. If you write a custom driver and filesystem you can make it so that certain data is only written to certain parts of the disk.

See that air-pressure equalizing vent in every harddrive? Inject Sulphuric Acid into it.

The hidden wireless box idea is known to the Party Van and DEA-- and they hate it, because it works, and they then need to get another 3-4 warrants to find the thing (because it may be on other people's property or the like..) A sensible crim would have a deadman check running on the hidden server too.

>>95
Ha, found the mention of it: (search down to "wireless")
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/programs/forensicsci/microgram/mg0405/mg0405.html

>>96
In other words: Hide a wireless node - preferably not on your property, use a propietary filesystem - preferably one you wrote yourself, encrypt this filesystem, and use a deadman switch.

Encrypt your harddrive with a keyfile and setup a program to delete the keyfile after 12 hours unless you intervene.

>>97
The funny thing is, they're finding people _doing_ all that.

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Wont't help against party van if they caught you at surprise, but opening up your HD and burning insides GUARANTEES that's it's 100% unrecoverable. Can't recover anything from melted mass plastic. I don't see much point doing this though, if you know party van is coming you can hide your HDs at your friend's or relative's house.

>>100
Dumbass, they need extra warrants to find the hidden wireless node. (And if they have them then they still need a few hours to find the node. Hence it being hidden.) By that time the deadman switch will render your drive contents nothing more than random data.

I actually use a seperate wirless "node" for housing of stuff (not CP mind you). I hide it in a wall safe of sorts, the safe is made of a special plastic that's nearly as hard as steel, (Odds are the feds would use powerful metal detectors all over the walls if they suspected a hidden node) this works twofold. 1) Getting into that safe would be very, very hard. 2) The plastic outside stops the metal detectors from sensing the metal bits inside. To minimize the total amount of metal the server has I don't use a case.

The server only listens to my computer, actually my NIC - when it gets the signal from my nic it broadcasts. (No Active Broadcast, way to easy to triangulate) I get the data I want from it making sure not to store it on my computers hardrive. It uses a deadman switch as >>101 said that needs me to check up on it every 13 hours or else it turns the content of its hardrives into garbage. (I considered some kind of remote super-magnet, or small explosive but ruled that out. I can have SOME kind of plausable deniability having a server mounted in my wall, but if it's blown the fuck up, I think not).

Overall, A project like this would cost you about 1.5k, the price increases as you house more hardrives. Most of the cost comes from buying the safe, and getting the tools needed to drill the holes into the damn thing. (You need holes for power\wireless antenna).

Also, being able to fix sheatrock is a big plus

>>102
Wireless nodes are usually detected with bog-standard bug detectors, and the Feds have hardware that can detect such across a whole neighbourhood. Got a 2.4GHz tuned circuit? Busted!

>>103
reading isn't your strong forte.

>>81
You are retarded. I haven't tried burning them, but I know HD when opened has several plastic disc inside it. Hell, I opened once a broken HD, so I know what there is inside. I'm pretty sure you can burn those discs.

>>105
I opened it up once and smashed the discs inside with a axe and shattered them completely .

Would that help ?

>>106
I'm not sure, but I guess pretty much it would. Although I'm sure they could be able to recover some things from those pieces. I would guess burning would be more effective though. Perhaps acid is the way to go.

>>107
Damn forgot that plastics are prettymuch immune to acids... If they're entirely made of plastic I guess acid would not be much of use, but I suspect that's not the case.

shatter them and scatter the pieces in different places I would like to meet the badass FBI agent who will spend the rest off his life tracking down every single piece .

Ha ha ha.  If you are being probed by the FBI then they already have enough to bust you.  The HDs are just icing on the cake.  So go ahead and waste your time figuring out how to rig your HDs with explosives and whatever the fuck you see on CSI cause it wont help you.

>>106

Nope, I saw a "show" where they did exactly that. Then, sometime later, the data-recovery expert regained pretty much all the data. Of course, they need all the tiny pieces.

Actually, your only "safe-bet" is the encryption + "sorry, sarge, you hit me so hard with the baton I forgot the pass" At least, I know a ftp server that got busted only to ridicule the jurisdiction later.

There are many, many ways to safeguard your computer against confiscation, from programs that perform military deletes if a bad password or other signal is used, to various amounts of explosives in the case, and ten kinds of other things.  One guy doing illegal things with his machine rigged the doorframe of his bedroom with high-power magnets, effectively destroying his computer's hard drive when it was confiscated.

However, the police know about most of these protection schemes already.  When a seach warrant is issued in connection with computer crime, special teams that include bomb squad members and "white hat" crackers are assembled to search for and deactivate this crap. 

>>112
This has to be a troll. I've already explained why the doormagnets won't work further up the thread.

Yeah, you'd need a proper degaussing loop, and that's hardly something that you can readily conceal or anything. (Would also wipe any credit cards and such that come through the door.)

>>113
but cryptonomicon was such a good book, surely the man who brought us the deliverator didn't lie

You dont build the magnet into the door, you build it into the desk, as the army used to do.

I had a prof that worked for the army for a while (in one of those places where you have to put your HD in a safe at the end of the day), and one day he got curious and hit the Big Red Button(TM) on his desk. High power degaussing loop. The thing had to be remagnetized.

There's no point in damaging the harddrive physically. Even if the plate is in pieces, they still can read some data from it, it just needs some special technology.

HDDs are magnetic media. All you need is a strong enough magnet and no one would be ever able to get any usable data out of that HDD.

>>117
Wrong. Fire works. Extreme hot fire.

http://driveslag.eecue.com/

>>13
>>22
Law Enforcement has money. Physically destorying the HD is the best way of making data dissapear.
Encryption, just slows things down, unless you have like every single file Encryped into different encryptions.

Isn't there a program that overwrites ram with 0000's like it would do for a HD?

>>119
There is programs that overwrite HDs. It's VERY time consuming though and often you don't have that much time. Works fine for those cases when you want to sell HD, but doesn't work in typical Party Van case.