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Learning advanced maths

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 16:55

I'm in 10th grade (in b4 banned, not like I can't unban myself) and I'm in Geometry (yeah yeah, have your laughs, I was an unmotivated dumbass in middle school). I have this desire to learn complex math, I've always done really well with math, it just seemed boring. I want to progress directly upward through the math levels in highschool, and I happen to have in my possession text books for all of these courses, and even some quite difficult collegiate math.
What does /sci/ think I should do? I refrain from posting on the /adv/ boards because I'm doubtful there's many intelligent souls there.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 19:57

>unmotivated
>desire to learn complex math

wait... what?

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 20:53

Learning advanced math, huh?  If you're a real hotshot you can try arithmetic, doesn't get much more advanced than arithmetic:
http://www.amazon.com/Course-Arithmetic-Graduate-Texts-Mathematics/dp/0387900403/
Of course, you can't forget about algebra, that's some heavy shit too:
http://www.amazon.com/Algebra-Chelsea-Publishing-Saunders-Lane/dp/0821816462/

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 21:13

>>2
Ha, ha. Nitpicking sentences always brings your correctness to the fore.

>>3
I appreciate the sarcasm, but I would honestly enjoy some constructive feedback. Just because I'm less learned in math doesn't deprive me of a right to learn them. I assumed in order to be more successful in learning them I should go to people who already have.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 22:27

I'm not sure why you think >>3 was sarcasm.  Do you think they're too advanced for you, or did you assume they were beneath your level of understanding?  Did you actually look at them?

My advice (I'm not >>3): You need a tutor, someone willing to sit down with you and start showing you how to proceed from a few definitions to proving theorems.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 0:01

>>3
I'm terribly sorry. I used to frequent /prog/ and it accustomed me to this horrible amount of cynicism and sarcasm.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 13:55

>>5

No one NEEDS a tutor. Books teach just fine.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 17:31

>>7
Not sure if you're allowed to talk any more...

To OP, books are fine, they are a great COMPLIMENT to a well-defined structured course, and in my experience, I have found only pure maths books like the Springer Undergrad Texts to actually approach aspects of mathematics from a completely fundamental basis. I am a natural sciences student who loves mathematics (given the chance I would transfer into pure maths, I'll probably do it later on in life) and I read a number of pure maths books because the applied maths books that swarm bookshelves like pubic lice in a dorm (my example would be any book by that cunt Anton) are a very bad way of learning maths for the maths-oriented. Get a book on finite mathematics, an introductory book on analysis and one on linear algebra, then read them VERY slowly, understand and grasp every concept before you move on. This is the crippling factor that people who don't get lectures and tutorials on pure maths have to suffer.

Also, look on some university maths websites for lecture notes (some lecturers post theirs up) and look around the first year (freshman) section and you should find some nice jewels, especially the ones who are pretntious and write mini-books, since they are completely well-structured and not schizophrenic like normal books from amazon, etc. (the reason for this is that the books are spread very thin to try and accomodate many different maths courses of varying difficulty, thus making it difficult to read without guidance).

TL;DR - Read Springer Undergraduate Maths textbook Series and get a friend/tutor to help you. Also, read university Freshman lecture notes.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 19:16

>>8
>Not sure if you're allowed to talk any more...

Huh? That was my first post in the thread...

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 19:33

>>8
>COMPLIMENT

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-05 2:20

search math on wikipedia and go from there

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-05 15:16

>>7
>>books teach just fine.
I lol'd.

You get taught by an inanimate object? Impressive! :3

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-09 4:57

lrn2chaos theory

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-11 12:48

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-23 11:47

>>8
yeah, read slowly,
but if u find that there's something you can't get grasp of, don't sweat, move on.
if this happen quite frequently with a certain book, that means u should study more basic stuff, these that will allow u to understand more complex stuff without great pain.

Reading math "should" be somewhat difficult, but do not strain...
It's like stretching, it should be gradual.

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