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Name: Anonymous 2009-11-17 23:21

Will we ever reach:

1. Another planet?
2. Another star system?
3. Another galaxy?

With humans, of course.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-17 23:52

Never for all. Enjoy being stuck on this shitty piece of rock. With other humans.

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Name: Anonymous 2010-01-09 8:01

1. Humans will visit mars in your lifetime.
2. Maybe
3. Probably not

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-09 9:04

>>1
you will never know for certain. This is the certainty. :3

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-09 10:46

You Saganfags should stop to admire the earth once in a while, instead of hoping for ridiculous things.

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-10 20:18

Instead of spending absurd amounts of money on space travel and space exploration, we should be spending absurd amounts of money on submarine and subterranean exploration.  The reason being that there are resources beneath the ocean and the crust, and absolutely nothing beyond our atmosphere.

Name: 4tran 2010-01-10 20:34

Subterranean exploration is harder than you think; we know more about what's inside the sun than what's inside our own planet.  It is also a significant earthquake hazard.

absolutely nothing beyond our atmosphere
lol, it's not that bad

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-10 23:59

Well I don't see the point of manned space exploration.  We can get enough useful knowledge (weather patterns, celestial formations, incoming ionic particles, etc) using unmanned craft.

I do think all the money for this mars probe nonsense should be spent on exploring the deep for new life forms and mineral or gas deposits.

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-11 0:01

Err, not probe, but manned mission mars.  (Although the probe wasn't very useful either).

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-12 6:01

1) Yes. Pending a global apocalypse cutting us short, if NASA or another government agency doesn't do it, some private enterprise will. No doubt about it. I'd stake my entire net worth on it happening in the next 50 years.

2) Probably. Again, assuming we don't annihilate ourselves first, we will eventually grow up as a species and realize we can't have all our eggs in one basket. We will eventually develop colonies around other stars around the galaxy. My hope would be that Earth would be treated with respect and cared for as long as the Sun shines (or maybe even longer if we can figure out how to move a planet to another star without disastrous global weather and such), but that sentiment will likely be washed away as obsolete. I would say sometime in the next 1000-2500 years we'll be permanently inhabiting multiple other solar systems.

3) Possibly, but without FTL travel, it would likely not happen until much much much later in our history. Probably not for a few million, if not billions of years. At that point, our decendants will look nothing like us and will have diversified into numerous other species. If we survive long enough, our decendants will reach other galaxies, but they will no longer be "human". This is, in fact, one of the arguments against other significant intelligent life in the nearby Universe. In the billions of years it took us to get to where we are today, a slightly earlier race would have had plenty of time to spread to practically every star in a galaxy and most of the galaxies in their home cluster. That much activity would be glaringly obvious if we were anywhere near it. There are no interesting aliens out there; we are the ancestors of all the Universe's future alien races. Narcissistic? Maybe, but that's what the evidence is suggesting.

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-13 0:07

1) We'll probably reach Mars within the next few decades.

>>11 is implying ID.

Truth is, we might figure time out tomorrow by accident and leave this solar system within the next 10 years or, we will never get lucky enough to figure time out and be stuck here forever. An easy way to get the time variable out of the way would be to become immortal but nobody spends money on that kind of research.

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-13 6:03

>>12
11 here.

"Implying ID?" Bullshit. Read it again, carefully this time. How does that post have anything to do with ID?

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-13 9:33

>>12
Nobody spends money on that kind of research?  It's called medicine you dumb fuck

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-13 17:54

1. yes (unless we get destroyed in the next 50 years)
2. not sure
3. no (next galaxy is 2,5 mio light years away)

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-14 0:10

>>11
I mostly agree. It would take us so long to need to get to another galaxy, it barely matters whether or not we do. There are something like 10^10 solar systems in our galaxy, so we've got a lot of space to fill

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-14 0:23

Why the hell would we go to Mars in person? What are you guys talking about?

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-14 0:50

>>17
At the rate we're going, the first people to orbit (and later, land on) Mars will be test pilots working for a private space tourism company.

Over the last few years, several private start ups have been working to take people into space for brief joyrides (we're talking about only a few minutes so far). Not only have they made a SHIT TON of money already, they've innovated quite a bit and pushed the stagnating and deteriorating tech of space travel forward.

Think there's no market for such an expensive undertaking as leisure travel to Mars? That's what most people thought a few years ago about leisure trips to the upper atmosphere, and that's been a huge success.

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-14 13:40

>>18
Absolutely. I was thinking more in terms of going for science purposes.

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-16 15:53

Weigh up the possible costs against the advantage gained by spreading to other planets/systems/galaxies, I think its pretty obviously not somewhere that should have too many of our resources thrown at it until a far later stage in the development of the species.

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-16 16:51

The question should be how fast vehicles can we build. If we could get enough energy to propel vehicle to 0.99 speed of light it would make possible to travel to different stars even those thousand of lightyears away according to relativity theory, but it would be not very practical as on Earth time would pass normally.

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-18 3:42

>>6
Sagan kinda has a thing about protecting earth too.  See pale blue dot.

>>21
Sooo, I guess we'll just have to make them come closer.  Spacetime being malleable to gravity is pretty nifty.

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-18 4:34

A person will land on Mars, with 100% certainty.  There is absolutely no doubt of this, it's just a matter of time.  Mars is extremely close in cosmological terms... we can practically reach out and touch it.  We set little toy cars on it to film it... within 50 years, when enough funding is approved, we'll go there.  Another star system?  No.  We will never get that far.  The difference between Mars and the nearest star is more than you can imagine.  The human race will not see past the end of this solar system.

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-18 13:12

>>22
That is what happens when you travel. But there is limit to that.

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-18 15:01

1. Yes. Governments world wide are seriously persuing the options of travelling to Mars. In fact it's a near given, and it will probably happen in your life time.

2. I can see us travelling to another star, but not for hundreds upon hundreds of years. We do not possess the knowledge to do so, even the simplest. Dealing with radiation in space is near impossible with current technology.

3. I really doubt it. The only foreseeable way is if we somehow gained the technology to do so. The only other way is if somehow humanity continued to exist long enough to figure out such technology. However, the odds against us surviving as a species that long are slim.

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-19 18:28

>>24
Oh, I suppose.  I was referring to folding space because Dune is actually real.

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-19 20:10

>>23
The star Epsilon Eradani is about 10 lightyears away and has a planet, so one could conceivably travel there with the journey taking less than a lifetime once technology becomes advanced enough to get us close to light speed.

Another galaxy is way out of course, unless Einstein was wrong and (way-)faster-than-light travel is possible.

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