Cain and Abel

Sorry about the off topic but this is the smartest board, I wanted to bounce this off you guys;

Everyone says Cain killed Able because of evil reason (jealousy, hatred, etc.) What if Able explained to Cain why he chose his sacrifice, what Able's sacrifice meant to him, and Cain only then grasped what a sacrifice to "God" was supposed to be. What if Cain killed Able because Able was the thing he loved the most in the world. What if Cain's only care in the world was his younger brother, and nothing else, and wanted to show "God" that he was willing to give that piece of himself away to "God" He realized that he needed to sacrifice the most meaningful thing in his life to "God" and to a loving, protective older brother, Able was the perfect sacrifice to "God"

tldr: Cain killed Able because he loved him that much.

tldr: You just played Devil Survivor

>>1
Sacrifice of Isaac

Actually, Cain killed Abel out of envy. The envy was created between the comparison between Abel's reception of God's attention and his own lack there-of. The result is envy.
>>1
You're missing the entire picture. Cain didn't kill Abel out of Love for his brother, but rather he judged himself unworthy of God's love and his "countenance" fell. This means that he compared his level of attention from God with his brother's and that is why he killed his brother, envy. You see, if Abel is no longer around to distract God from Cain, naturally, Cain will be the only benefactor of God's attention. It's that simple.
Stop trying to over-complicate the issue with something made-up and not in accordance to the actual story; that is delusional thinking.
To address your argument about Cain killing Abel out of love, the only love Cain showed Abel after judging himself was that of killing him NOT that he killed Abel OUT OF love. The only love Cain was seeing was how to get God's, Abel was simply in the way.
According to Jewish tradition, WE, as a human race, are our brother's keeper to watch over our fellow man, protect him, and make sure that we are loving and attentive with him. And no, no butt sechs.

Biologically, we are all bisexual, but to make a distinction between the two sexes is not human nature, but rather choice. If it weren't we would constantly be attempting to learn about each member of the sex and opposite sex regardless of our successes and failures.

tl;dr Cain killed Abel (given) Cain was envious of Abel's abilities as a shepherd as compared with himself as a farmer because his accumulated work received less attention than that of Abel. Therefore, to Cain, Abel must go in order to eliminate the competition. It's that simple.

Jesus.  Anyway, God comes across as something of an asshole regardless.  What the fuck does he need fruit and lambs for?  Ever think that maybe his followers could have found a better use for those than burning them?  Not to mention the whole Isaac thing.  I'll just test to make sure that my followers blindly follow my every command without question, even if it's clearly evil.  That'll show them all what a kind and loving god I am.

Able.

Take this retarded shit back to /x/.

>>5
Oh boy. Don't tell me everyone here on /sci/ hasn't figured out that there are two opposing christian gods.
Okay, Old Testament God = self-ego, yet to be perceived as devil, everyone else's ego is perceived as devil.
New Testament God = everyone else's ego for us to appease, whereas now self-ego is deemed as the devil by self.
This is why there is a contridiction between new and old testaments. Check it out for yourself if you don't believe me.
It's the evolution of a man's spiritual mind from first perceiving the internal voice of ego as God (introversion) to perceiving the external motions and workings as God (extroversion).
...I think it's time to hit the black board one more time, fellas. :3

>>8
prove it.

>>9
Don't you know anything, in law, the accuser must provide evidence to the contrary, not the plaintiff. :3
Lol.
Go back to school, slacker.

That's all very well, but how did they end up in the Dreaming?

Okay, here's another thing for you guise.
Choice.

Choice is binary within each option.
Options are variable.

so if you have three options, you have six choices.
Let's say these three options;
1) Pizza Hut
2) Girlfriend's
3) Gas Station

Okay, you can GO to pizza hut or NOT GO to pizza hut; you can GO to your Girlfriend's or NOT GO to your girlfriend's; you can GO to the gas station or NOT GO to the gas station. See, six choices.
How you know or can discern that a choice was made is used through logic, what DID happen?
If I went to pizza hut, my girlfriend's, and the gas station then "TO GO" was the choice present in all three options. If I stayed home and did none of the above options then, "TO NOT GO" was the choice present in all three options. If there are no options considered, where you stand is your source or point of origin (where you stand).
I hope this was a valuable lesson for everyone here. :3

>>10
Don't you know anything, in debate, anything is allowed. :3
Lol.
Go back to school, slacker. (it seems like ad hominem is allowed too)

>>12
2³ = 8 choices, not 6

>>14
dude, 2^3 = 8; 2x2x2. Given.
For each option, there is only 2 choices. 3 options 2 choices, 2x+2x+2x. Where did you go to school? I thought you were cool, 4tran. Looks like I was mistaken. :\

>>13
Yeah, and from you I've heard quite a bit of non sequitor. So, I guess anything IS allowed in debate. :\

>>15
2/10

>>17
srsly, how did you learn to distinguish one thing from another? The back of a crackerjack box?
2/10 = 1/5 or .2

Srsly,
choice = binary (1 or 0) Open or closed circuit.
option = variable (x) which could stand for any circumstance, situation, or action necessary.
If you use these fundamentals you will be able to see the choices other people make and thereby see your own choices.
Cain thought he could destroy the inferiority complex of not being able to perform up to God's standards by killing his brother as though his brother were trying to "get one up" on him somehow. This is a fine example of one of the aspects of human neurotic ego. The problem of inferiority wasn't from Abel or God, it was through the comparison of Abel's and Cain's abilities that drove Cain to kill his brother. The inferiority existing and felt was always inside Cain, not God, not Abel. Cain used what was inside himself to destroy what was outside himself. The ego projects what it doesn't understand onto the outside world (outside the human body). Cain was jealous because there was favoritism (or so he thought) and judged himself unworthy and put his brother down (to death) to make himself feel better for the moment. And it worked....for the moment. However, that God said, "Where is your brother Abel?"
"Who am I? My brother's keeper?" said Cain.
"What hast thou done?" spake the Lord.
Cain WAS his brother's keeper. We are all our brother's keeper.
We have to ALL (each and everyone of us) live amongst one another in some fashion. Should we do so the same as Cain? Or should we do so as Abel?
Better to be killed for being your best than judge yourself for an entire lifetime.
Anyone have anything else to say?

i wonder what this thread has to do with science and math...

>>18
6.5/10

Smartest board acts like as if cain and abel are real.

Does anybody else have the suspicion that Konatanonymous is the same verbose troll with 5+ different names?

>>22
"Oh, I have so many names." *shrugs*

If I had to have a philosophy, and that philosophy needed to be quantified into math and science; how would one go about creating such a proof and/or theorem?

>>1
This is just like one of my DEEP Japanese animu

>>24
the japanese are such DEEP thinkers.

This "god" shit is about as meaningful as thinking that Gilgamesh matters or something.  God, god, god ... that's all you stupifucks can think about.  You don't have any evidence.  The Flying Spaghetti Monster is about as relevant.

>>26
Thanks! Now I have a picture of a "Flying Spaghetti Monster" in my head. Guess that doesn't exist either, right? Except in my head which exists in reality. Even quantum mechanics say that our universe cannot exist without thought entering into the equation. :\
Oh, but I guess my thoughts don't count, is that what you're trying to say? My feelings don't matter? Yeah, the only thing I know from what you are saying is that YOU, RedCream, don't want to think about GOD (something that makes you uncomfortable in discussion) because you lack sufficient facts and data to back the story that you would like to present and that is frustrating. The evidence of something imagined, is thought as possibilities, is thoughts AS self-perceived truths are known as beliefs, actions based on beliefs reinforce beliefs. Just as I have written this here, so are my beliefs reaffirmed and equally, the acceptance of what you think and feel are affirmed. What is the problem? Are you frustrated about your uncertainty of something unknown? Isn't it strange that you are unaware that you feel frustrated about something you don't know or are lacking in further evidence. It's sort of difficult to produce physical evidence of something intangible don'cha know? Only the most self-aware will ever call into account their beliefs or opinions and weigh their efficacy and effect.

>>26
Isn't it funny that you are uncertain about the certainty of uncertainty.
Certainly, Schrodinger's Cat experiment (a valid scientific experiment) would prove to ANY human observer and scientist that BOTH that cat being alive and not being alive at the same time exists because of the LACK of evidence to either contrary position. So how can ANYONE claim a solitary position on anything? The simple thing is, there are some people that do and some people that don't. There are believers and non-believers. There are theists and there are atheists. Knowing this about the world is knowing this about yourself.
Of course, it takes real courage, not false pride, to want to unravel and reveal the hidden things about oneself in order to become aware of oneself in the process. This is the experiment of Self-Awareness; knowing that in a room full of people, when counting; include yourself.

SEE HENOTHEISM for further explanations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism

SEE SCHRODINGER'S CAT for further evidence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrodinger%27s_cat

SEE QUANTUM MIND for further research.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mind

The problem is choice. -Matrix
Live or die; your choice. -Hitman
To be or not to be; that is the question -Shakespeare

What is real about what is known is that it IS known. Ignoring this simple truth is the epitome of ignorance itself. No ego can withstand the power of the presence of the moment, let alone the pain of truth. When faced with the pain of the present, it seeks the escape of future possibilities or past events; when it is faced with the pain of truth, it will seek the escape of deception (lies mixed with truth). When it's painful, you'll know it's true; it's how you KNOW you are alive. Or at least the truth of the possibility of something that you have yet to experience fully; this is the frustration within curiosity. Do what you don't feel like doing in order to prove the existence of something that everyone else says doesn't exist. A thought can be just as real if you are able to believe it and act upon it in with your very real human body.
And now that this possibility is present; more and more people will spread the word, from the possibility of truth comes hysteria, from hysteria comes word-of-mouth, from this possibility comes thoughts, beliefs, choices, actions, reactions, and recovery. Now, it's just a matter of time; time of course, being in reality is only the present; the past and the future are merely illusions (thoughts in our head) [INTROVERSION] compared to the reality of the present moment (outside of our head)[EXTROVERSION].
Neither is right nor wrong; both are but one thing; options to choose between. Choosing one means sacrificing the other. Choosing neither sacrifices both (and awareness) and the opportunity (the present moment) to do something meaningful with your very limited TIME. Isn't your time valuable to you? Interesting questions when pondering the quams of presenting tangible proofs of intangible ideas. If you want evidence, CHOOSE the ideas yourself, see the evidence of those CHOICES yourself...oh, but you wouldn't want to be wrong...X-}*snicker*
When you are uncomfortable and uncertain and frustrated; that means you're on the right track...FOR YOU. Those are YOUR thoughts, YOUR feelings, YOUR situation that you are experiencing. That is YOUR EVIDENCE of YOUR EXISTENCE of YOUR SELF-AWARENESS. So what are you going to do? What you do or don't do is entirely up to you. You are the one up to bat in your life; I'm just a spectator screaming at you to SWING!!!!
I'm sure that if you swing the chances of you HITTING the ball are more likely then the chances of not swinging and still HITTING the ball; amirite?
Amirite? What a beautiful urban-word.
Questioning one's own beliefs. And the best part about even this is??? Still your choice; not mine. "SWING!!!" I'm sure you'll hit something, even if it's air.

>>26
This goes along with OPTION ATTACHMENT.
Option attachment is basically a "Choosing is losing" belief.
The problem isn't the options, the problem is the belief creating resistance TO choice. The options could be variable of anything, but "the belief MUST STAND!" so sayith the Lord, or some such nonsensical thing. "My mom said it was so; therefore it must be true for me as well." Yeah, it's okay, My Personally held beliefs allow for you to sustain and maintain that belief and any belief so long as it doesn't resist or steal my choices. When it does? Question, question, question (to gain ammunition), argument argument, argument, argument, argument (to reveal the thought behind the belief (the reason) itself is the problem, not the person.) When the human ego can grasp the logic of this problem, the problem becomes the solution and the resistance becomes an increase in velocity towards success.
That too is one of many possibilities; Will you live it or Will you NOT live it, that's your choice too.
:3

Some may ask, "Say? Aren't you trying to make 'Super-Beings' by doing this?"
And I'll respond elegantly, "All I offer are bullet-proof ideas, if someone were to become a 'Super-Being' it would be because they CHOSE to DO SO according to their BELIEF."
Once the idea becomes a possibility in another person's head, I lose any rights to any success by others acting upon that idea. This idea that I DO maintain rights to ideas even if someone acts upon them is based upon the ignorance behind possession. Where "possession is (supposedly) 9/10 of the LAW!"; I would then have to say that ideas would be that other 1/10 when other people use them. Sorry, ideas are not Copyright-Protected, and likewise, you cannot hide what ideas you DO act upon. No matter what, you will decide. The only thing standing in the way is whether you choose to pay attention to that awareness or to ignore it. That too is a belief that can be practiced...actually, it is practiced by a few people I DO know.
So what do you think now, RedCream? Would you like a 7-course question meal with an argument doughnut for dessert or would you prefer the small comforts of believing that what you know is absolute and unchanging; where nothing else exists beyond?
That too is the epitome of ignorance, that nothing lies outside of knowledge. The illusion of knowledge is THAT we CAN know, the truth behind knowledge IS that we CANNOT KNOW; and if we know this, we can know and be comfortable. Do you find comfort in knowing? Put knowing at the end of learning and the only comfort you will find is after you proceed through fear of not knowing. In the end, you will know from experience, not from illogical assumptive reasoning that transcends into beliefs. This is an ongoing process btw. There is no stopping and starting. There is only that which you DO, what is left undone is no longer you. :3
This final statement transcends into "being grateful for what you have", "being in the moment", and "seeing what IS."
Btw, logic has to do with, WHAT IS. Science measures, WHAT IS.
Philosophy is merely the path that leads to the same result; awareness of self-awareness.
Choose choice, believe in belief, and have faith in faith; the result is yours to discover for yourself. The antithesis is also yours to discover for yourself, but that would also include choosing not to choose, or believing not to believe, or having faith in not having faith.
Knowing both outcomes is what makes you a wise person, because that wisdom is based entirely upon experience and not preemptive assumptions as a defense mechanism (another tactic of the ego).
BTW, what would it mean if we create a word for something that both exists and doesn't exist at the same time? A paradox? A Contradiction? I just find it hilarious that we are an identity within a meat suit on a ball of dirt, in a vacuum having to contemplate things like philosophy and practice things like science. Isn't the humility of this awareness just a little amusing? I know it is to me! XD AHAHAHAHAHAHA.
I have to consider clean this flesh-sack of mine and be considerate of the senses of other humans, even though I am so small in the universe, WTF?!?!?!?
ROFLMSFAO!!!
XD AHAHAHAHHAA!!!!
C'mon, srsly, if it's not funny, why am I laughing? If you find that expression ridiculous, what's the harm in laughing about it being ridiculous? It's all ridiculous, I think, that's what makes it so fucking funny!
XD AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I have to wake up from sleep, but go to sleep from being awake.
I have to go from comfort to pain, and from pain to comfort.
I have to go from not knowing to knowing, and from knowing to revelation that I didn't really know the extent at all.
I have to brush my teeth, but I have to get my teeth dirty by eating, just to have to brush my teeth again, and eat again, etc.
If you don't find this the most ridiculously hilarious situation you've ever been in; I offer you my condolences on your loss of a sense of humor.
Isn't it kind of ridiculous to be pout about a thought in your head instead of finding someone who would like to share an intimate moment with you? I find that kind of hilarious too. It's a joke! A sick fucking joke! And yet here I am laughing my sick fucking ass off at it's ridiculousness. So what? It's funny, why would I want to be anywhere else then in the position of realizing that there is so much ridiculousness around me; either enough to make me die laughing or enough to make me vomit painfully with stomach ulcers and esophagus erosion. Even to have to deal with that is ridiculous. Isn't it just fucking funny? The only thing I can really laugh at is this ridiculous position I'm in, the ridiculous clothes I'm wearing, the ridiculous nature of my mind, and the ridiculous environment I've chosen to live in. All I can do is laugh at me, cause I am ridiculous. Even when I'm ridiculed, I play on it.
Friend 1: "It's snowing!"
ME:     : "OOH! Can I has a snow cone?"
Friend 2: "Yeah, give him a yellow snow cone!"
ME:     : "Oh...your sick...I like that. :3"
Friend 1: "AHAHAHA! That's funny!"

Everyone can laugh with someone who finds themselves ridiculous because they are in on the joke.
It's those that don't that find themselves the BUTT of the joke.
And as a final refreshment to this waflsnak, I offer;
"The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
Lol, and you thought I was srs? Now THAT is comedy!

what the hell is going on

Okay, here are some of my Salesman homework from a book called, "Covert Persuasion."

1) Buyer's Remorse
-Customer buys something they change their mind later out of remorse (regret at having purchased at all).
2) Anticipated Regret
-Customer thinks something bad will happen if they continue or ignore something (don't want regret later).
3) Option Attachment
-Making a choice and seeing the other option as something precious lost (choosing is losing).
    a) discuss (poor) option, make it painfully obvious why it should be dismissed and dismiss it.

Experiential Influence "Puppy Dog Close"
-10 day free-trials
-car test drives
-etc, etc.

Imaging behavior Script
-Imagine...[situation]. We're there to help, you are satisfied.
1. Imagining oneself performing a behavior changes the person's intention towards the behavior.
2. The more often someone imagines a behavioral script, the more his intention and attitude change toward the desired behavior.
3. These changes do not occur when the main character in the imaging is not the person himself.
4. The intentions and attitudes hold at least three days when pondering the real life experience.

These tactics stick for a few days.

Only highly evolved people will ever call into account their beliefs about anything. Beliefs about "how life is" or "how the world is" or "how you are" are all developed (and usually with little or no evidence beyond a single observation or repetition of being told something is so) fairly quickly. To actually think about a belief (or an opinion, an attitude) takes mental work and therefore people don't want to do it.

When people are presented with evidence that their belief is false they simply internally defend their beliefs against the incoming new information and dig in deeper.
-doesn't matter if source says different later.

Promote "points" rather than statistical analysis.

Visualized or perceived experience beats statistics anyday.

People have beliefs according to one or more reasons.
"see it, believe it, generalize it, now means "always" and "forever."

If this doesn't work, goto level 2.

CAUSAL AND NON-CAUSAL ARGUMENTS

An Argument isn't a fight.

Argument; a buch of ideas/facts ordered to present a point of view.
Cause; What makes something happen.

Generalized labels assigned according to deed.

Non-Causal Arguments;
have nothing to do with cause.
"Your life is in safe hands when flying."
-Has uses of statistics.
-Shows possibility, potentiality meant to inspire safety, expectation, and/or confidence.
They evaluate what happened.

If you want to change a belief in ways other than actiona nd imagination you will need to know which kind of arguments is likely to work.
Beliefs can begin to change when something outside of the person triggers new or different representations on the inside of the person.

KEY: You must get the person to call into question his beliefs and not push a new belief structure onto him. Statistical evidence is almost useless in changing beliefs.

STUDY: Causal/Non-Causal Arguments
Using causal arguments along with taking action on a belief strengthens the belief int he long-term.

GREAT THOUGHT EXPERIMENT

Get someone to remember an event that never happened.

Memory changes everytime it is brought into mind.

Telling someone to forget a memory often reenforces it.

Original experience influences continued experiences.

When told later that they did well, they remembered that they would do well.

As long as the person doesn't publicly communicate his thoughts/feelings before an event takes place, you can be certain he will remember predicting the result as it actually happened and not what they thought at the time.

Telling someone not to think of something makes it more likely that the person will indeed think of it.

People have opinions on things that don't exist.

People choose the last option.

Samples sell products. Increased samples only increases sampling, not profits.

What people say and what they do are two different things!

People don't tell you what they think; they select options from those YOU GIVE THEM!

Framing the Ball Game
Eliciting an opinion by phrasing a question.

1. People's opinions, thoughts, desires, are often molded by the questions they are asked.
2. People's thoughts, opinions, and desires are often created in the moment and have little relation with what they will actual do or what they will believe later.
3. Many people have beliefs about things that are not real, based upon questions about things like non-existent Acts of Congress and not knowledge.

KEY1: Most people are fairly automatic in their behavior. They see a commercial and because they believe what they see without critical thought, decide what drink to drink, restaurant to eat at, or tax preparer to use, all based upon suggestion.

KEY2: Once most peple choose something, write something down, say something, whether it makes sense or not, whether it is in their best interest or not, they tend to stick with that decision, regardless of how that decision was made.

KEY3: People don't like cognitive dissonance. Most can't hold two opposing thoughts in their minds so they simply pick the thought/decision/belief they currently hold and eliminate the rest without further consideration. This is called the Law of Consistency.

LAW OF CONSISTENCY
When an individual announces in writing (or verbally to a lesser degree) that he is taking a position on an issue or point of view he will strongly tend to defend that belief regardless of its accuracy even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Okay. I've finally got an argument for you, /sci/.
It has to do with the purpose of GOD.
In our lives we ask ourselves questions to which we realize we lack sufficient knowledge to answer. The reaction to this awareness is shock, fear, and desperation. The choice that proceeds this determines what is learned.
If an action takes place, everytime the feeling of shock, fear, and desperation takes place something new is learned. If nothing is done, after feeling shock, fear, and desperation; one will be training oneself to DO nothing when they feel shock, fear and desperation. It's that simple. Whatever you learn now you are going to repeat. It's up to you what that is.
Okay, regarding those questions. Well, what we are seeking is answers. More often than not, there are a great many people offering to sell us their version of the answer. Guess what? It's not the right answer, FOR YOU, until you accept it. You don't have to accept the premises, but you can at least investigate the premises and see of the premises support the conclusions that were stated or if different results are yielded. From this, either the person you were talking to is wise and sharing their wisdom or they are fools trying to learn THROUGH you comfortably and safely away from the proving grounds.
Okay, here is what nobody will tell you.
The answer to your question, regardless of subject matter; is the ONE who is going to answer. The one that answers is the answer. The answer is what you LEARN. If someone else answers, learn from their point of view. If you answer, learn from your point of view. If someone else answers, learn from their point of view, etc, etc. Use empathy (seeing through other people's points of view to see how what they say WILL or MIGHT work). It's the only way to be sure. Just denying or accepting is a fool's errand. Are you a fool? And is being a fool necessarily a bad thing? I know a great many fools in my life that waste their time and accomplish nothing; do you know what they tell me? It's all part of the plan.
If I'm not following God's plan, then God can't exist. If God exists, then I AM following God's plan regardless of what I am doing.
Logic has to do with what IS present.
Illusion has to do with what IS NOT present.
The only place illusions exist are in your own head.
Illusions can become real, because people are real enough to use their body's to ACT upon those illusions. A young friend of mine refers to this process as "demonic release." In psychology, it's known as "ego projection." Whatever is on your mind, if you act, that is what your action is based upon. Anytime that thought comes up, the experience and habit to do more of the same will recur. If you perceive someone do something that you do, your memory corresponding to that action will re-surface for further input.
Our whole spirit is telling us to learn, move, and pay attention. Why be on the body's side and resist this already working process just because the body is uncomfortable or doesn't "feel like it?"
I'm surprised that most people aren't taking everything I'm saying, making it theirs, and using it to their advantage. If they hear it, it's theirs. If they see it, it's theirs. If they smell it, it's theirs. What IS theirs? The property of sound, the property of sight, the property of smell, etc, etc. That IS theirs, as they have GIVEN freely of themselves, so FREELY received is their PHYSICAL EMOTIONAL PERCEIVED EXPERIENCE. Would you discard such a thing if you knew this would lead to your greatest happiness? Why do you think you don't know for sure? You are supposed to ask questions and find out for sure, for yourself what is true. Because the truth of that, is your possession of truth. If all that is intangible is the sum of your properties; who could steal from you?

>>3
actually, Isaac wasn't sacrificed. Abraham was about to sacrifice his son until God saw that he was about to do what he had told him and then told Abraham to stop cause he saw the devotion in Abraham Will and Choice. If the Will and Choice exist, there is no need to make an illogical sacrifice.

And how do we come up with ridiculous assertions in the first place? By trying to see what IS within the IS NOT. The only conclusion is everything else besides what IS. The answer; what IS NOT. All of it...not just one thing. Possibility of one thing...but excluding everything else within the IS NOT is putting on blinders and assuming an answer with baseless assertion without considering what IS.
And you wonder why girls don't like you...are you EVEN paying attention TO them? Are you really seeing WHAT they ARE doing?

The gamble of this exercise results in feigning ignorance. Ignorance of what IS. The fact that we can see both what IS and IS NOT is a testament to our attention to detail. Of course, within integrated systems you'll find trouble spots too. When you are looking at what IS you're going to see these x-variables popping up making a mess of things. You're going to have to explore these too in order to understand the full extent of what DID happen as opposed to what MIGHT have happened or what COULD have happened or what WOULD have happened. Remember, when you refer to what IS NOT, always refer to it as "opposed." The reason for this is because what IS NOT is an opposition (opposite position). If you are looking at only what IS NOT you'll miss what IS. This means you'll introvert, compare, weigh, or judge in order to create a logical degree of value in spite of just valuing WHAT IS by extroverting which puts you into a present moment awareness. This is one of the goals of a self-aware human being; to practice self-awareness or diminish the capability through inactivity. Muscles have a similar issue; I believe it is called Atrophy where the muscles are no longer able to respond to the human brain's commands to move.
"Out of sight; out of mind."
"Ashes to ashes, dust to dust;
if you don't use it soon, it's going to rust."

If you strive for ignorance, see only what IS within the IS NOT. The result is IGNORING what IS which takes you out of present moment awareness and extroversion into introversion and awareness of perceived bodily reactions.
If you pay attention to just one thing, you aren't paying attention to anything. The reason? Integrated systems (many working systems working throughout, in conjunction with, and promoted by other working systems at all levels.
Why the ambiguity? Why the generalization?
Because "what you do to one side of the equal sign, you must do to the other."
Otherwise, you go from balance to imbalance.
If you wish to induce imbalance, whatever is supposed to happen in a reaction, make sure it is the opposite. If stopping a train usually saves lives, make it so the train is derailed when the brakes are thrown; people will die. Imbalance created within integrated systems.
If we were to induce a systemic integrated imbalance throughout all working integrated systems; depending upon the resistances and motions one would either be eroded or absorbed by the other. Usually, the most rigid is the first one to be absorbed or eroded. Flexibility, change, flux, places success at the top of the survival chain in any conflict. Well, that's all for tonight folks; I'm off to bed.
G'night...at 10am in the morning. :3

ITT: People taking the bible as fact.

>>36
ITT: People dismissing the bible without examination vs people taking the bible as fact without experimentation

conclusion
Different paths leading to the same bullshit; perpetuated ignorance vs cognitive repression. 

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