Psychology - Science or Religion?

Psychology has adopted the scientific mode. However, from a strictly scientific point of view, it has not been able to meet the requirements of true science.

I don't think that makes it a religion.

Religion and pseudoscience aren't synonyms, dude.
Psychology does have many pseudoscientific aspects, but it's been slowly getting rid of them over the course of the second half of the twentieth century.

It's not quite there yet, but as it stands, it's still the best thing we've got for that particular niche.

>>3

what niche?  wtf are you talking about?

>>4
Get a dictionary and look up what niche means.

>>5
Religion does have many pseudoscientific aspects, but it's been slowly getting rid of them over the course of the second half of the twentieth century.

It's not quite there yet, but as it stands, it's still the best thing we've got for that particular niche.

Ok, OK, GOD IS IN DA HOUSE, WTF's UR PROBLEM? Ah, I see you have nutnmouth syndrome. Take two of these and call me in the morning. *hands pathetic human meat sacks his nuts*

>>6
Except that that's a lie whereas >>3 is pretty much true.

First of all, when you say "Psychology" you could be meaning anything from its days of psychoanalysis over 100 years ago to Skinner's animal behaviour model to the neuroscience with Penrose poking at live brains and the knowledge of neurotransmitters and use of scanning technology we have today.  So you know jack shit mister >>1.

I'm not really into Psychology myself, but from what I've seen, there's three main classifications:

1) Bullshit. Past life regression "therapists", hypnotists, etc. These are idiots pushing their made up bullshit on other idiots. It should be legal to kill these fuckers on sight.

2) Pseudoscience. Psychology as a set of generalizations from observations. A bit more credible, as most psychiatrists actually do go to school to learn this shit, but they're still prone to "gut feelings" rather than an actual diagnosis. Especially vulnerable to bullshit fads like MPD/DID (made up bullshit), ADD/ADHD (bullshit misdiagnosis), etc. What makes it worse is that they give out drugs like candy. (If anyone's interested, I can relate my own frustrating experiences with these assholes, who literally almost killed me with their bullshit, but I won't waste time in this post.)

3) Actual Science. Basically Neuroscience like >>9 said, which is slowly eating away at #2. Stuff that actually follows the Scientific Method, complete with experimentation and prediction.

Experimentation and prediction...huh?
As per UR post, >>10, you classified yourself under #1) Bullshit.

>>9
Oh dear I mistakenly put Penrose -- that should be Dr. Wilder Penfield.

>>12
Yeah, Roger Penrose's views on human consciousness are firmly in the bullshit area.

Does the name "Ivan Pavlov" ring a bell?

>>10

>I'm not really into Psychology myself,...
>...
>...bullshit fads like MPD/DID (made up bullshit), ADD/ADHD (bullshit misdiagnosis)...

Let's just scrap entire field because some amateur faggot says ADHD is misdiagnosis.

Protip: If your father touched you inappropriately, no neuroscience can help you.

I don't get why people are so susceptible to mental traumas, I mean, who the fuck cares if your father touches you inappropriately, just wait till you grow stronger and pack a kick up his ass, also sue him and get all his money, BUT DON'T BE A FAGGOT AND LET A BAG OF SWIRLING ATOMS TO RUIN YOUR MIND FOR LIFE ?!?

Seriously, people should grow some balls and be true men.

>>15 |Let's just scrap entire field because some amateur faggot says ADHD is misdiagnosis.

why not?

>>16

It is a feature of our learning ability. Only, not so perfect feature. Psychology studies how it works and helps us work things out.

You faggots think you can impose your will onto your 'traumas'? You can only try just ignore dem.
Enjoy your Prozac and tumors.

>>18

lol @ your "science"

I agree 99.9% with >>18.
It has to do with choice and self-awareness and perception.
If you have been involved with a traumatic event, it is best to at least admit it to yourself that it was trauma or at the very least that it occured. If you fail to do this, it will become a fetish that is reinforced in one way or another either sexually, with drugs, OCD, mental disorder, depression, ADHD etc. The fact that we have the capacity to ignore an event, to put it out of our minds, overwhelm ourselves with distractions and forget about them is the very reason we must observe the potential for it in everything that we do so we don't repeat our past. "Those who forget their past are doomed to repeat it." Yes, they knew about it back then too. But what else did they know back then? "To thine own self be true." Ah shit! That too? What else? "Do onto others as you would have them do onto you." Shit! How did we regress our way through evolution so quickly? Are there any other things that we may have missed? "I found 2000 ways how NOT to make a light bulb." Well fuck me sideways and twist my pecker like a pretzel. I sure as shit didn't believe that we came all this way just to find out we are back in the 13th century...strike that...12th century...I think...? I hope you get this point. We are only screwing ourselves when we screw other people, litterally, physically, mentally, metaphysically, et al ad infinitum, AMEN.
Two tips that may save those who use these tips as integratable tools:
For every mistake you make, a potential advantage AND disadvantage are capable within. Goodwill hunting. How is it possible to perform this tool? Question answers:
A:"The sky is red." (observation)
Q:"Why is the sky red?" (experimentation)
Q:"How is the sky appearing red?" (experimentation)
Q:"When did the sky turn red?" (experimentation)
Q:"What shade of red is the sky?" (experimentation)
catch my drift?

>>20
Not really... I think maybe I'm just not as intelligent as you...?

>>20

Your post is too LSDey.

>>16

Bag of swirling atoms, why should you care?

>>20
...I think maybe I'm just not as intelligent as you...?
Good starting point! What are the advantages and disadvantages of this statement?
Disadv1) You don't grasp the depth of what I'm saying.
Disadv2) You may not be able to see the integratable ideas that are described.
Disadv3) You may have overwhelming thoughts or diversions lingering about you.

Advan1) You know your origin, "I think maybe I'm just not as intelligent as you...?"
Advan2) You now have my tools as stated in this thread, first you now have some advantages and disadvantages to work with.
Advan3) You now are able to question your advantages and disadvantages as well as the primary answer of "I think maybe I'm just not as intelligent as you...?".
Proposed Action to stimulate advantages:
Read some books on perception, influences, energy, biology, psychology, religion, poetry, riddles, self-awareness, or self-preservation. All will eventually lead you to a certain level of understanding, this then becomes your new point of origin, don't forget to document your findings and perceptions during this process and every process afterwards, you may want to think of using all the time of your past to your advantage as well.
My personal example to you:
I "wasted" 11 years of my life sitting at home, self-preserving myself, but to what end. I had no idea, none worth having, or so I thought carelessly. But one day, I began to sense something, my uncle confirmed it through the contexts of his conversation. He essentially told me that I had the ability to turn every disadvantage into an advantage like so;

11 year liability; 11 wasted years to no true purposeful meaning or usage thereof, a baggage of refuse I must painfully carry till I die.

or

11 year asset; 11 years experience to a purpose of learning and understanding the human psyche to better understand myself and my surroundings, self-awareness, self-preservation, perception and the mind's Will to overcome the body's states of bio-chemical emotional reactivity where without interaction only inertial inactivity or inertial chaos theory remains.

So, my 11 wasted years are now 11 years of experience in the field of self-awareness and self-preservation of the human psyche. I've already got a working model to go by, my memories, laced with imagination and lie so I understand that there maybe some memories that are corrupt or untrustworthy to their original appearance, so they deserve further investigation.
Good luck, this is no easy feat, only the Strong Will out.
REFERENCE: Newton's 3 Laws of Motion, this may give you some hope.

BAG OF SWIRLING HAMMERS, run for your fucking life

ADD/ADHd are inbalances in the brain -- in their proprely diagnosed form.  They are usually caused by a lack of, or diminished organ in the brain.  Can't remember if that's right, but something along those lines.  THey are both caused by different organs though.

>>26
LOL, organs in the brain.

ITT: Omnipotent kids interpret science to suit their vanity.
Also, can't decide what is cause and what is effect?

>>27
Look up what ``organ'' means. It's a reasonable name for parts of the brain.

Also, what exactly do you think ``omnipotent'' means?

>>28

A phase in psychological development, you ignorant faggot. At least research the subject before you troll.

>>29
Which, organ or omnipotent? Because neither is right.

which, right or left? STFU&GTFO is all that's left!

I'm no psych major, but I have actually heard of omnipotence in psychology (I have both a mother and a sister who ARE psych majors). Basically, from my understanding, there are numerous types of psychological omnipotence. Usually when people talk about it, it's a form of developmental (infantile/primary) narcissim, but there's also megalomania and imagined omnipotence as a coping mechanism, among other various uses.

Google it, I found a dozen different papers on it on the first page of results.

Psychology is more religion.

But it in society it is mostly accepted since there are HUGE lobbies behind it that support this field.......hello my pharma-industries!

>>33
Scientologist detected

>>33
I enjoy the suppositories they give me. It massages my anus!

>>1
I sense a loop in your statements.

Religion = Imagination
Science  = Experience

Religion fuels Science
Science Fuels Religion

There, mystery solved. Now mass suicide your cultish minds on the swords of rhetorical non-sequitor, you fucking human wastes of magnamity!

Without Religion science is hit or miss.
Without Science religion is forgotten save within the pages of history books.

Both are stagnant death, neither without the other is fulfilling. You all are retards, if you wish to survive the evolutionary jump, practice now the ways of circadian theology (The Cycle of Days). Deny not your biology, deny not your mind, deny not the world around you, less you deny your very eyes and self. What are you really? What are you doing here, really? What life will yield to you alone along the shores of life? What visions indeed will come to your eyes?

Whose words are you really speaking? Who told you those lies to repeat to the world around you? What words does your mind tell you to speak? Are they those that would help or hinder your outlook on life? What lies are you willing to swallow in order to better conform to the wastelands of the decadence of time?
Without the question, there can be no answer.
Without the answer, there can be no question.
(repeat to yourselves, if you Will)

If you lack the answers, ask the question.
If you lack the questions, turn answers into question.
What answers do you already know?
Moral: Use what you know to find out what you don't know.
Exception(s): Use only if you are not already a god. For upon doing so, you shall thereby become Human.

You shall become GOD-MAN. The miraculous amidst the mundane. The spectacular enshrined in the simplest of visions.
For you are designed of details, and all Gods are within the details. What details are you observing right now?

Who would hide from you the details which you already see? Who would deny you that which you seek? By what means and methods do the use as of now and the past?

Pandora's box hath no fury save those who would strive to quiet its voice. Who's voice have they silenced till now? Who's mind waits in turmoil till the days of release? Who's heart beats drums that would blur men's vision to tears? Who's hope for mankind lies within himself? Who's words are yours really? Are you sure...? What dreams may come...only time will tell. Do you see?