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Numbers exsist?

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-25 18:34

Given that 0 x 0 = 0 and 1 x 1 = 1, it follows that there are numbers that are thier own squares. But then it follows in turn that there are numbers. In a single step of artless simplicity, we seem to have advanced from a piece of elementary arithmetic to a startling and highly controversial philosophical conclusion: that numbers exsist. You would have thought that it should have been more difficult. A.W.Moore reviewing Realistic Rationalism

Wtf is he on about?

Name: AnOnYmOuS 2U 2008-04-28 19:50

Tomato toma-to; potato pota-to. Jeez, need any further explanation? Ok, did you known that the space which you inhabit shifts everytime you shift? How do you measure the distance of that shift even more so with the shift of everything else around you. It's all relative to position. One inch for me is a million to a microbe. The use of numbers is like I said, "A recurring event" meaning, distance, time, matter have recurring features within them. An oxygen atom only knows it's an oxygen atom, but it doesn't realize that it is surrounded by more oxygen atoms because it's not self aware and of a very minut size. I hope you guys are keeping up with this, cause my arms are getting tired of typing the same thing over and over and over again and still getting, "What do you mean by measure, what do you mean by event" Ever heard of association? What is a horse? a horse is a horse, right? Well, what is it to a japanese person, an Uma. This is the common mis-association that people make, same object, different name. So figure it out for yourself. How do you measure one? Well, there has to be some sort of existential and observable entity of whatever sort without it, the determination is zero. But for me, zero is too final as it closes the chapter to the story just cause we can't see it. Well, like my previous postulate to RedCream, prove the existence of the ID, the Ego, the Consciousness and dreams, we can only do so through association of commonly recurring events or factors or whatever. The number system itself was an invention of man!!!! But man can become aware of certain things; what existed and still continues to exist are these commonly recurring events, we measure them and count them with each re-currance, hence time, hence distance, hence money, hence everything that commonly reccurs. Please understand, all I can do is describe what a horse looks like and behaves, you have to give it your own associative name and understanding from your own observations. That's all I have been saying throughout all of my posts. Stop waisting your time here like me and get out and start using the tools that are available to grow into who you really are meant to be. If you want to wait for me to lead by example, give me 3 more years and I'll be on tours doing book signings and lectures on these understandings. It's not about being right, it's about understanding of our vulnerable human nature. Well if you see 1 zebra here and 1 zebra there you have 2 zebras, correct, but how do you classify them as the same entity. THEY ARE NOT!!! They only have the observable appearances of this, then we begin to break down the differences like gender, race, religion, poltics, age. We are so divided because we divide ourselves, we never truly realize that we are still connected even when we are able to visualize in our imagination of these commonly re-curring divided entities. Jeez, yeah, I know each one is different, but how are they different. Mark them from their atoms on up and you'll see from the points of absolutes to the points of relativity. And if I haven't wasted enough of your time with psycho-babble such as this entire idea of forums most certainly are being utilized, give us more time, we'll waste some of that too. Happy life-wasting.

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