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.9999... = 1 :D

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-21 21:59

so i waz reading this book on diff geomatry and look what it said

"evry numbr t 0<t<=1 can be representd by an infinte decimal (even 1 :O) t = 0,c1c2...cn...

fr exampol 1/8=0.125=0.1249999... k let cn1, cn2 be non-vnishing digitz

the image point t is point 0< x1,x2 <=1

x1=0.c1...cn1cn2+1...cn3... , x2=0.cn1+1...cn3cn3+1... so maping is 1to1

for example x1=0.04601..., x2=0.7000302... has inverse image t=0.047600030102... but im not sure i follow where t cumz from it doesnt seem to follow its patern earlier? can anyone break the digits t down into the corresponding cns and stufs? thx

Name: sage 2008-04-21 22:02

sage

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-22 0:24

sage

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-22 2:15

>>1
"can be"
just because something can be, doesn't mean we have to bother, especially with that 9s shit.

Name: RedCream 2008-04-22 23:48

1/3 + 2/3 = 1

People don't have any fucking trouble with the fractions, but as soon as you make clear use of the repeating decimals of those SAME fractions, they get their knickers in a twist, and there's no need for it, since it's equally true:

0.333... + 0.666... = 0.999...

Therefore:

0.999... = 1

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-23 9:24

0.999... + 0.000...1 = 1

Suppose 0.999... = 1 and subtract from both sides, then we get:

0.000...1 = 0

Contradiction.

Name: sage 2008-04-23 11:22

>>6
I think the problem with that argument is that the normal rules for carrying digits in addition don't really apply.

0.999... + 0.000...1 doesn't necessarily add up to 1 because you can't assume that carrying digits to get the right answer will hold true. Maybe I'm full of shit here. Anyone care to back me up?

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-23 12:28

>>7
Yeah, >>6 is a bollocks way of explaining it, but not a bad way of thinking about it. If 0.999... and 1 are two distinct real numbers, then there must exist a number x that is their difference. But since 0.999... + x is greater than 1, no matter how small x is, we conclude "obvious bullshit".

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-23 13:30

>>7
>>8
wow I got two serious replies

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-23 13:35

>>6
dude, 0.000...1 doesnt exist: you're saying expand infinitely...and then end with one? you never reach the last one, so you cant ever have that.

Name: RedCream 2008-04-23 16:07

>>10
Correct.  >>6 is an assfagging cockmilker who only pretends to understand the maths.  There is no such thing as 0.000...1 for the reason you well stated.  >>6 has to go back to burping more sperm and slurping more shaft.

What I said before is perfectly true:

1 = 1/3 + 2/3 = 0.333... + 0.666... = 0.999... = 1

READ IT AND WEEP, 0.999... DENIERS!

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-23 16:55

1/9 = .11111...
3/9 = .33333...
9/9 = .99999...

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-23 19:07

but OP is saying that any number can be represented as an infinite expression and that given two numbers (expressed in terms of infinite repeating) there exists one repeating number to "map" two numbers to. Is this true?

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-23 23:58

>>13
yes

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-24 4:43

>>10
you can if you define that you can
but fuck it anyway, this is troll bait thread

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-24 4:45

in our hearts we know it is all bullshit

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-24 14:26

why do we need to use cartesian coordinates anymore? We can just replace every pair of coordinates with one corresponding number. Simplicity.

Name: RedCream 2008-04-24 17:44

>>17
Every pair of coordinates on the Cartesian plane produces a unique point.  One "corresponding" number doesn't carry enough information to produce that uniqueness.  Hence, the Cartesian plane cannot be represented with a set of single numbers.  Now do a barrel roll.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-24 19:01

>>18
Well the cardinality of RxR is c, so that really implies that there is an injection from RxR into R. So in fact you're wrong.


Totally wrong.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-24 19:40

>>18
Bitches don't know about my space filling curve.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-24 19:52

>>20
omg thats the pictr in the book :D thx alot mr 20

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-26 15:22

>>18
This should be bumped for how stupid redcream looks

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-26 23:20

>>22
bump

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-30 4:17

YOU FOOLS

The sign '=' means the number on one side is excatly the same in value as the number on the other.

So, 0.999... by definition is lower than one, therfore

0.999... does not equal 1

Name: 4tran 2008-04-30 5:04

>>24
Real numbers, limits, Cauchy sequences, sage, etc.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-30 17:13

x = 0.999...
multiply by 10
10x = 9.999...
subtract x
9x = 9
divide by 9
x = 1

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-30 21:08

>>22
Are you seriously suggesting we continuously bump every thread in which redcream posts misinformation or a logical fallacy?  We already have one thread for that on the mainpage, & this board is unproductive enough with him here as it is.

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-01 1:15

>>25
no one cares about that shit

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-08 5:17

>>26
nice, but wrong

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