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Ice in space

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-08 7:26

Where did ice/water on comets and planets come from? Supposedly solar system was formed from remains of a supernova, was the water somehow synthesied inside the star? Or what.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-08 8:01

Water. H2O. Figure the rest out.

Name: RedCream 2008-03-08 14:45

Oxygen (O) is created in stars.  Just think of stars as "element factories", where Hydrogen (H) and Helium (He) are fused into heavier elements like ... well, like every other element than H and He.

The heaviest elements that Mankind hasn't recently created (like element 110) can only be created from supernovae.  Normal stellar processes within operating stars pretty much max out at the element Iron (Fe).

Once you get all those elements mixing up in stellar clouds from all those supernovae, you end up with chemistry, resulting in H finding O and forming at least three structures that I know about:  HO- radicals, H2O stable molecules (water), and H3O unstable molecules (ozone).

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-09 19:40

>>3
H3O[super]+[/super] is hydronium, not ozone. Ozone is O3.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-09 19:41

Fuck. how am to do superscript

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-09 23:19

just use three letters, sup

Name: RedCream 2008-03-09 23:43

>>4
Fuck, you're right.  I dunno where that error came from.  The point I was making was the self-ionization of water.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-10 3:41

>>7
'S alright.

>>6
Thanks.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-10 6:09

>>1
Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, oxygen is also abundant. Oxygen is very reactive, thus if there is any oxygen floating around chances are it will happen across some hydrogen and react with it.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-10 12:36

>>7
I dunno where that error came from.
What about all the other errors that frequently appear in your posts?

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-10 12:53

>>
More like FORCED INDENTATION OF WATER

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-10 14:47

>>3
Once you get all those elements mixing up in stellar clouds from all those supernovae, you end up with chemistry, resulting in H finding O...

So basically your explanation is "magic"? Come on doofus get technical otherwise you might as well get in line behind all the rest of the nutbags. FUCKTARD

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-10 14:51

>>3
Thinks that "God" did it....

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-10 15:54

>>3
You forgot H2O2.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-10 17:33

>>3 OH- is an ion, not a radical.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-11 8:22

RedCream is like wikipedia. I think he mixes facts with lies on purpose. H3O is ozone? Stars fuse hydrogen and helium? Of course they do but stars fuse hydrogen into helium first faggot, helium is nowhere near as abundant as hydrogen.

Name: 4tran 2008-03-11 8:38

I don't think he's lying intentionally.
He even admitted his errors in >>7.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-11 15:00

>>17
He did.

But every faggot that reads this board posts after seeing a mistake. It's too hard to read the rest.

Just like >>16

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-11 15:15

>>17
I think he's an incorrect shithead.

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-12 18:35

H30 is the hydronium ion

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-12 18:41

O3 is ozone
OH is a radical
OH- is an ion
H3O+ is the hydronium ion
H2O2 is hydrogen peroxide
H3+ is the trihydrogen cation

Name: RedCream 2008-03-12 19:39

>>10
Citation required or assume the STFU state.  NAO.

>>12
Troll harder.  Chemistry is not magic.  gb2college

>>13
Don't even bother trolling harder, since you obviously suck wad at it to begin with.

>>14
Fuck me again, you're right.  I also missed other forms of H and O (like H2 and O2).  Minor errors or omissions, 'tho, unlike >>10's stupid assertion.  The point is that H and O atoms have plenty of opportunity in a forming solar system to get close enough to form molecules like water.

>>15
I don't understand your distinction, since OH- fulfills the qualification for a radical per:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_%28chemistry%29

>>16
I already said I made an error when I said H3O was ozone.  What fucking perfect universe do YOU live in, nutswabber?

As for Helium, it was ALSO created in the Big Bang:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang_nucleosynthesis

Yes, H is fused into He in stars, BUT the Big Bang provided plenty of He in the fucking FIRST PLACE.

But then again, you could have just made a ... meh ... muh ... MISTAKE!  Who'd've thunk it?

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-12 22:18

BAAAAAWWWWWW much?

Name: Anonymous 2008-03-12 22:19

>>22
Feels butthurt.

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