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Quaternions

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-19 16:43

WTF? and more importantly WHY?

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-19 23:22

Well, I like the different flavors of cheese

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-20 0:27

>>1
I remember that I looked that up once for some reason.  Oh well, maybe I'll look it up again some time.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-20 0:30

ITT: people who don't belong on this forum.  Unless they're just trolling -- then they're overqualified.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-20 8:41

srsl gaiz, why do we peopl keep expanding number base? what problems wer unsolvable before and are solved with quaternions?

(troll to srsness ratio = 1:5, so pleaz answer)

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-20 14:56

>>5
Nothing. That's why we use vectors from the R3 vector space now with its cross product. It makes a normed linear space, essentially the same as R3.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-20 17:08

quaternions do exactly the same thing as R3 vector space, cross products, and dot products.  We'd probably be using quaternions now if they could have been manipulated such that multiplication with them was associative; the people messing around with them before we had good shit like R3 vector space etc were trying to get them to multiply associatively but they couldn't, thus leading to other stuff getting developed.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-21 10:18

>>7

Quaternion multiplication is associative; they form a division ring.  (A division ring is just a field whose multiplication might not be commutative.)  What did you mean to say?

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-21 12:36

>>8
I think it's pretty safe to say >>7 has no fucking clue what he's talking about.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-22 13:53

>>8
shit, I meant to so commutative not associative.

>>9
Its something that I vaguely remember from almost a year ago... some guy was trying to get commutative multiplication with quaternions and couldn't so he stop using them, and the people/person behind R3 vector space didn't care about not having commutative multiplication.  Thus R3 vector space got used for stuff and quaternions didn't.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-31 22:11

The thing that continues to bother me about quaternions is that algebraic equations have too many solutions.  For example, consider x^2 + 1 = 0.  Obviously, i, j, k, -i, -j, -k are all solutions.  That's too many already, but it's not too bad.

But then you realize that (i cos t + j sin t) is also a solution for any real t at all, and you go totally insane.

Name: Anonymous 2007-12-31 23:30

>>11
Perhaps quaternion equations are best viewed as equations of four variables into a four dimensional space.

Name: Anonymous 2008-01-02 20:38

Quaternions, along with R^1, complex numbers, and octonions (Or Cayley Numbers) form the only normed algebras possible. Normed algebras of any other dimension are fail. So they're important in that respect.

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