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How about that god?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-25 0:09

I have a few questions that I would like to get everyones input on...

1. If god were real why is there science?

2. What is the use of creating a primitive being?

3. Why do people continue to believe in a process that has managed to turn something that was originally meant to be pure into a tool of control and power?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-25 0:54

>>1
1. That makes absolutely no sense.

2. Are you asking why a god would want to create us (the primitive beings)?  Well, probably for the same reason little kids own ant farms, goldfish, and seamonkies: boredom.

3. "Religion is what the common people see as true, the wise people see as false, and the rulers see as useful."
-Seneca


Rather than just watching talks by Dawkins on youtube for all your spiritual guidance, perhaps you should learn a little about some of the major world religions, introspect, and decide for yourself.  Or at the very least, try to comprehend and actually understand the information you're taking in before you  regurgitate it back at others.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-25 0:55

>>2
i belive in ishtar you infidel

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-25 3:20

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-25 10:21

>>1

1. For lulz.
2. Noone can create being (or anything) more perfect then himself.
3. Lolwut? peoples are primitive and irrational?

Name: luhrer 2007-10-28 19:53

>>2 i agree with what you said in 3. it is true

Name: RedCream 2007-10-28 21:28

You already answered all your questions since Q1 was rhetorical.  There is no "god", since the evidence supporting its existence would be manifestly apparent.  In huge contrast, there's ZERO evidence, so there's just no "god".

Even the faggorz at BodyBuilding.com would have to agree:  the absence of ALL evidence in a situation where a LOT of evidence should exist, summarily proves the nonexistence of the thing that should have produced all that evidence in the first place.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-31 2:43

The absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence?

Still, what if the planet was 6000 solar orbits old, a billion years worth of artificial fossils was put in the earth during it's creation along with starting off with amounts of lead in uranium that would suggest 4.5 billion years of decay?

Hell, what if everything before right now was an implanted memory and everything was just made all at once out of nothing?

Of course there can never be evidence of this but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

1) Believers would say god made those laws of nature as the physics engine of this universe.

2) There really isn't a point for a god to do that because being all knowing would mean that it could see us as our component atoms and knowing all of the forces effecting them at any given time, would see our minds like circuit boards and be able to tell what we are going to do through mathematical calculations. There would be no point in making them a world and them, because in less than an instant the god would already know everything that would ever take place.
Why run a simulation when you know precisely what is going to happen?
3) Optimism, and they really want to believe that it is real and good.

Name: Krieger 2007-10-31 14:07

You just need to decide for yourself.  Look at the wisdom of people on both sides.  Go to Wikipedia and look up "Ockham's razor".  Go to church, and then to a comedy club; decide which is funnier.  Listen to a lecture on evolution.  Stop using predisposition as evidence.  Don't go to people on 4chan for guidance.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-01 17:27

>>11
This is a science/math board; we talk about religious matters for discourse. I don't see anyone asking 4-chan to tell him or her about the universe.

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-01 22:16

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 1) The search for the truth of existence through science is as much a search for the presence/absence of God as praying and offering sacrifices.

 2) If you've ever watched the second season of Sailor Moon(in English, I have no idea what was said in the original moonspeak), that talking tree gave as good an answer as any I've come across so far.

 3) Reasons vary with individuals: Some don't really believe, it's lip service for some social, economic, or political payoff; Some are inspired by the idea of a kinder, gentler way of behaving and think they can pull it off in a world that sometimes like to target such naive marks mercilessly; Some don't know what else to do to get some kind of meaning/comfort/purpose in their life; Everyone else has reasons I'm not thinking of.

Don't change these.
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