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Yet Another Religion Thread

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-17 23:12 ID:YkBhvjfM

Scientific arguments aside, wouldn't Gödel's second incompleteness theorem prove that any religion which attempts to justify itself must be inconsistent.

  Gödel's second incompleteness theorem: "For any formal recursively enumerable (i.e. effectively generated) theory T including basic arithmetical truths and also certain truths about formal provability, T includes a statement of its own consistency if and only if T is inconsistent."  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_second_incompleteness_theorem#Second_incompleteness_theorem

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-17 23:26 ID:Y7+3jvIk

I suppose. A declaration of completeness assumes a theory governs and is the judge of itself, therefore discarding a more specific proliferation of potentially beneficial contingency. But it's not the religion itself stating it's own consistency, only the people who think they understand it.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-18 0:53 ID:Heaven

no, because you're retarded and don't understand the incompleteness theorem or it's context.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-18 9:37 ID:vY0p4SKH

A religion is not a formal system containing basic arithmetic, therefore the incompleteness theorems do not apply.

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