I'm a highschool aid in Middle School. I'm a senior this year, and just turned 18. And I never got a chance to learn about it, so I just got a space as an aid for an hour in 7th grade science.
Sheesh.
Besides, nobody in our school is severly religious. And no one cares.
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Anonymous2007-09-09 15:54 ID:G3vA0IZf
Assuming you're talking about a U.S. public school, you're just wasting your time. The whole system is one big, tragic joke- and I've seen it from the teaching side as well as the "learning" side. Just go find a good introductory bio textbook and read it cover to cover; I guarantee that by the time you put it down, you'll know significantly more about evolution and evolutionary theory than the overwhelming majority of American HS graduates. Which is not saying much, but it's a start.
All of those "sciences" that religion seems to hold back, such as evolution, or theoretical physics, are useless. They do not help industry, and won't make anyone any profit, who cares if we know where we come from or any of that gibberish. So it does not matter whether or not religion encroaches upon them.
This is no troll. Schools ought to be teaching their students things they can use in real life, not topics for dinner conversation.
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Anonymous2007-09-09 23:40 ID:eXhRfHyb
>>13
Uni/apprenticeships/whatever are for teaching you that sort of stuff. School teaches you basic skills. It teaches you how to learn. It should also provide you with a basic understanding of the world. There's a hell of a lot more to life than just working.
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Anonymous2007-09-09 23:43 ID:eXhRfHyb
>>11
Because that kind of stuff *can* lead to some of the greatest scientific breakthroughs. Also it's a good thing to know where you come from etc. People *do* care about history and the workings of the universe.
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4tran2007-09-10 0:06 ID:zwV22spH
>>11,13
Which is exactly why American public schools are failing so badly. By that standard, there is no reason to learn literature (useless), history, math (beyond arithmetic and basic algebra), and the sciences. After all, everybody is going to flip burgers or work in a factory; who needs education?
Oh that's right, you're forgetting engineers and scientists. Of course, everything useful they learn comes from college anyway.
Riemannian geometry seemed like nothing more than dinner conversation when it first came out, but it wasn't until half a century later that Einstein used it to create general relativity. General relativity was thought to be useless when it first came out, but it wasn't until another half century later that it was discovered that GPS depends on them.
Patience, what is theoretical now could be practical in a century or so.
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Considering you need to design experiments at least to confirm your academic musings, and such outcomes tend to be pragmatic in the larger sense, you should be a little more open to pragmatic approaches. The alternative is to confine yourself to academic musings that grow more and more outlandish and out of touch with the real world. That's the state that cosmological physics is in now; it's heavily influenced by mathematical methods which no experiment has yet been able to confirm. Anything that can't be experimentally confirmed is by definition WRONG, since you may as well just say "Gilgamesh did it" in a big chalked box on the blackboard.
Much can be said for academic musings which push the envelope of Human knowledge. However, that knowledge must be put to the test. It's the base of science and no other method applies.
They don´t teach Evolution in the US? oO
Ask to your Bio teacher or something why your DNA is 99.5% identical to the one of an Orangutan.
´d Be funny...
The US teaches it. In a lot of states, though, teachers are required to teach "Intelligent design" as well. So teachers are forced into just giving students the gist of evolution in order to make time for the God bullshit.
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Anonymous2007-09-14 12:37 ID:ZkQup7l4
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You mean that the students are forced to miss valuable information about God, just so a bunch of Satanists can impose their obviously incorrect theory on the masses. It is no matter, there are enough churches to educate the youth properly.
But in seriousness, it's the administrators, board, and lawmakers who are causing the problem, not the science teachers (who are probably among those MOST aware that evolution is correct).
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Anonymous2007-09-15 14:20 ID:WgMkXmH4
>>24 some states do and some don't. I learned evolution and the decent of man in biology. Some teach evolution while leaving open the possibility of intelligent design, while some skip it all together.
>"Ask to your Bio teacher or something why your DNA is 99.5% identical to the one of an Orangutan."
Our closest relative (with the most recent common ancestor) is the chimpanzee with 96% identical DNA.
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Anonymous2007-09-15 14:27 ID:WgMkXmH4
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>"Anything that can't be experimentally confirmed is by definition WRONG"
Incorrect. The outcome is undetermined.
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Anonymous2007-09-15 17:39 ID:4xFpFc6l
i live in nj my 10th grqde bio teacher taught us some of the theory of evolution but wasn't suposed too.
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Anonymous2007-09-15 17:48 ID:wkxK/fSH
I went to a private Christian school where they taught intelligent design. The teacher felt that God could have used evolution or whatever to create the world, he didn't really care, but we were coached on dissecting poor evolutionary theories that have long been thrown out the window. It sucked, but they also encouraged us to take part in a debate where we could take either side, and that turned out to be cool.
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Then you shouldn't be making decisions on the basis of that undetermined outcome.
At any rate, that there's any debate on ID vs. Evolution at all is sad. ID, Creationism and all the rest of that religious garbage have ZERO evidence to support them. ID also makes no testable predictions. Evolution at least has a sufficiency of evidence to support it.
That all makes sense since Evolution was built upon evidence in the first place. The religious explanation has no evidence and is only built upon fear ... fear of a cold and unfeeling universe where you're just going to die.
And finally, if chimps share about 96% of DNA with Humans, then that explains the US President, who looks like a chimp and acts like one too. Naturally, being a chimp, he believes in this "god" (a giant alien space monster for which there is ZERO evidence) and has embarrassingly expressed that opinion to the rest of the world. No wonder American students can't compete anymore, with leadership like that!
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Anonymous2007-09-15 18:23 ID:WgMkXmH4
>>33
>"Then you shouldn't be making decisions on the basis of that undetermined outcome."