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Name: Anonymous 2007-09-06 15:24 ID:UbYCIlno

1)We have a SEALED container (weight 1 ton) on a(i don't know the word in english... something to weight objects... a scale?).
 2)Inside we have pigeons (weight 10 kilograms)sitting on the floor
 3)They get scared, and start flying inside the ermetic container without touching any of the walls.
 The total weight of the container stais the same(1 ton and 10 kilos) or drops(1 ton)?

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-06 15:41 ID:1OeXyCLB

>on a(i don't know the word in english... something to weight objects... a scale?).

The word you're looking for is "shekel".

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-06 15:44 ID:ngw6PvNc

>>1
correct, they did it on Mythbusters

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-06 15:53 ID:Heaven

>>3
His question is correct?

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-06 17:00 ID:5tEvzaMe

>>1

yup

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 6:44 ID:jPYVXEK4

questions kick ass

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 8:02 ID:UUTK5c7A

>>4 correct, they did it on Mythbusters

Name: FORCED MEME 2007-09-07 8:04 ID:UUTK5c7A

correct, they did it on Mythbusters


Example:
Q. "Did harry potter get murdered?"
A. "correct, they did it on Mythbusters"

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 12:12 ID:rSrd8NVf

1 ton and 10 kilos

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-07 19:39 ID:tlerr8mx

actually his question was P \/ ¬P? which is always true.

think about wording your questions correctly, people.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-08 4:47 ID:8JQXphTd

okay....
op here.
so the weight stais the same even if the pigeons fly of the floor?
In order to go up they must push themselfs down with 10 kilo force?.... .... what?   i can't understand what i'm saing especialy in this language. I hate english

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-08 11:53 ID:R8dO+t8b

Name: 4tran 2007-09-09 5:25 ID:krtp7jz4

I think the measured weight will oscillate around 1 ton + 10 kg (assuming you can even measure with that kind of accuracy) (I'm defining this weight as the equilibrium weight).

a) When the pigeons first fly up, they have to push on the air with a force greater than their weight (otherwise, they can't accelerate up).  Thus, the measured force will be greater than the equilibrium.

b) Their flapping is not instantaneous, and hence the air sent downwards is not continuous.  Unless they're perfectly synchronized, there will be times when the air they send down is less than or greater than their weight.

c) If they decide to lower their elevation a little, then the opposite of a) occurs, and the measured force will be less than equilibrium.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-13 16:09 ID:dS9Ypr2Q

>>13

It doesn't oscillate. It remains 1T 10kg. See >>12 for a good explanation.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-13 19:08 ID:vRnYj4VI

>>14
In much the same way a bathroom weight doesn't oscillate when you jump on it, i.e., it does.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-13 22:09 ID:Heaven

If the pigeons are on a treadmill, will they still be able to fly?

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-14 2:52 ID:jEhQUZJA

I'd like to see a scale that can handle over a ton of pressure yet still measure the weight with an error margin smaller than 10kg... Also 10kg of pigeons... that's a lot of pigeons :P.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-14 10:48 ID:x5SJjRAB

>>17
maybe they were full and shit a lot in there

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