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God made the integers...

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-14 17:16 ID:CsjIcVGw

"God made the integers, all the rest is the work of man"

Discuss.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-14 17:39 ID:t2L5qB4n

"God made the natural numbers, all else is the work of man"

Naturals are more fundamental than integers.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-14 18:04 ID:X9XLG2eL

God made me a sammich

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-14 19:57 ID:fETInONL

God made zero and one, he did the mash. He did the monster mash. The monster mash. It was a graveyard smash.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-14 20:39 ID:d/1QFwPq

one of stephen hawking's books

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-14 21:00 ID:sIW2LeDq

Bitches don't know 'bout my number.

-Euler

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-14 21:14 ID:daqJ1DOY

God is a faggot.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-15 0:54 ID:1qmfNu5M

God doesn't exist.
Therefore he didn't make the integers.
Therefore the guy that said that is long dead.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-15 4:06 ID:2f/0L77u

who maked my weiner

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-15 9:12 ID:uwyHAuHp

Maybe God existed at some point in time and that's when he made the integers.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-15 10:05 ID:JstEi3ac

So did humans pwn God when they 'made' the reals? When they got to complex numbers, was he all like "D'oh, why didn't I think of that?"

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-15 12:50 ID:Heaven

>>Discuss.

No

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-15 15:05 ID:UkVzNnN7

Only a moron would say and actually believe something as blind as that. Numbers like pi and e have a much closer relationship to the real world than any natural number.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-16 17:58 ID:LqlojJJV

>>11
>>13
more complicated number systems constructed from the integers, etc etc etc

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-16 18:24 ID:Heaven

>>14
No.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-17 14:32 ID:UytmJpr3

>>15
yes.  go read a book.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-17 14:43 ID:BzPvDJOf

books are good

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-17 14:43 ID:BzPvDJOf

Indeed

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-17 15:59 ID:f/BFAacY

Gilgamesh made the integers...
"Gilgamesh made the integers, all the rest is the work of man"

Discuss.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-17 18:42 ID:TmLJqUAa

Longcat made the integers...

"Longcat made the integers, all the rest is the work of man"
-Tacgnol

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-19 2:41 ID:3fTOS9lV

Integers don't actually exist. That property of ones which makes .1 equal to 1/10 of 1 and 10 equal to 1*10 exists only in our minds and is constantly shifting. If you change units you are in effect changing what is an integer. one meter for example is an integer in meters, but not in yards. MAN IS THE MEASURE OF ALL THINGS SO YOU CAN ALL GO TO SLEEP KTHX

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-19 2:44 ID:3fTOS9lV

Its kind of impossible to use something different than the system we use now though because no matter what the one is it is one of something and not two of it. What we should be inquiring is the nature of units and how they are related to the natural numbers. I would not say that Pi is more natural than a natural number because there are few natural units that can be expressed in pi, in fact there are none. you cant have pi apples, or pi heartbeats, or anything of substance.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-19 2:49 ID:3fTOS9lV

Haruhi made the integers, and then Kyon had to invent decimals to reconcile units of measure that can be divided into parts of less than 1.
-the revealed word of anonymous

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-19 3:14 ID:Heaven

>>21
counting. Two apples is two apples.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-19 5:42 ID:P/VwqDnH

>>22
pi is half the ratio of the circumference of a circle to it's radius (this is true regardless of the size of the circle, and can be manipulated to work in curved space). You can't count apples in terms of pi, but their geometry is riddled with it.

>>21
This is only true in counting. Consider the function e^x. We know from calculus that it is it's own derivative and integral (relative to x). That means that it's both equal to its rate of change and its "sum" [for lack of a better layman word]. It is easy to forget that e is just another constant. No integer has a closer relationship to the world than e.

Another such number is the golden ratio. It appears in many places in the natural world yet it is another irrational number.

Hell fractals don't even exist in integer dimensions.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-19 12:24 ID:3fTOS9lV

How do you know it is an irrational number? It could be that it's true value is merely hidden behind thousands or millions of digits. Personally I cant comprehend a universe where this is not true.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-19 12:32 ID:3fTOS9lV

also golden rectangles in the natural world are normally distributed and do not actually reflect the true number

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-19 12:45 ID:Heaven

>>26
It's been proven that both Pi and e are irrational.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-19 14:04 ID:uDYLV/uE

>>26
and if youre referring to the golden ratio, i suggest you look up what it converges to and observe the square root of five.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-19 14:49 ID:PxHiL/cX

>>26

WOW UR RITE I CANT BELIEVE CENTURIES OF ANALYSIS MISSED THAT ONE !!!

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-19 15:05 ID:Qt26GDVd

>>4
I've never thought of it like that. Huh.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-20 10:24 ID:Qedii6jK

I think that if anything "god" made certain irrational numbers and the rest is mankind's feeble attempt at understanding them.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-18 2:34

The word pirahna, is all I can think of that rhymes with marijuana

Marijuana MUST be legalized.

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