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Is the universe infinite?

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-10 9:10 ID:EUgsTWtn

Well, is it?

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-10 11:34 ID:p/uViAdx

Yes/No.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-10 11:49 ID:CtisOaJN

yes

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-10 12:30 ID:HR1M4HJX

no

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-10 12:35 ID:2p2B4HIV

i dont think so

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-10 12:35 ID:2p2B4HIV

however, i do think theres more than once universe

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-10 13:30 ID:EUgsTWtn

>>6
The universe is by definition one.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-10 15:30 ID:1nRZuCTg

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-10 16:54 ID:EUgsTWtn

>>8
Is that physics or science fiction? (tl;dr)

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-10 16:54 ID:NcrncPEG

>>6
It's pointless believing such a thing unless you have a proper scientific founding in how a Multiverse is even possible, or if it has been generally accepted by the scientific community.
Up to then it's pretty much more of a fantasy, equivalent to that of belief in, say, Christianity.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-10 17:13 ID:Fc9ViTe4

One thing for shore , the universe is big

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-10 17:56 ID:DORYFPx0

>>10
Welll..... if you think about it from the perspective of inflationary cosmology, it is plausible, if not unavoidable.

See, when the universe went through a stage of expansion known as the "Inflationary Period", everything was in a state of false vacuum.  From the false vacuums, supercooling occurred, exponential expansion occurred (false vacuums have negative pressure, causing its effects to beat out gravity), and then false vacuums decayed.

The thing about false vacuum decay, though, is that the halflife of the false vacuum is much, much than the rate of expansion.  So as every false vacuum starts to decay, there are still splotches of false vacuums.  These splotches of false vacuums "fall" off the universe kind of like how drops of water fall off of icicles.  From that new drop of false vacuum, a new universe is created.

If the energy of that false vacuum is enough to beat the inward effects of gravity, then that false vacuum will create a new universe through the same ideas that created the original false vacuum in the first place.

Rinse, repeat.

I did a little math on the side for how many universes were potentially created from our universe's "time = 0", and the number that I got was 4^10^17 universes created.

Booyeah.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-10 18:13 ID:em0q0V8w

NEGATIVE PRESSURE

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-10 18:26 ID:DORYFPx0

To answer the question about whether the universe is infinite: It's finite in size, but if you go straight forever, you will never reach an end.  The way that I was taught it was that it's kind of like a Mobius Strip.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-10 23:13 ID:cx+pTdO1

>>14

Non-orientable?

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-11 0:50 ID:v3gdPNUI

>>9

Well, I'm not clear on the specifics, but apparently the idea is taken seriously by a number of scientists.

Then again, so is "Intelligent Design," so...

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-11 1:50 ID:Heaven

>>16
Intelligent design is not taken seriously by any scientists. But I guess 0 is a number.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-11 1:51 ID:Heaven

>>17
I should note that someone with a "PhD" in christian education from patriot bible university is not a scientist.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-11 3:45 ID:1LPNCs/Y

-int+inf=universe

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-11 12:01 ID:v3gdPNUI

>>17
>>18

Point taken.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-12 19:59 ID:jdOc6A98

I don't care what Aristotle said....

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-12 20:02 ID:2BAsYshg

>>21
But what does.... what does.... he have to do with.... I don't.. I don't know anymore.... Momma?

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-13 7:04 ID:FQV180Fj

most likely space is bended thus rendering it's infinity

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-14 23:35 ID:4Z6dI0Q5

but you know...
it keeps expanding itself since big bang...
I think someday it will reach a limit and go backwards or something

agree?

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-15 19:17 ID:rJLQhElw

That's what they say, more or less.  You wouldn't happen to be a troll, would you?

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-15 20:03 ID:ZQFxqAoh

Space is not infinite, the universe is still expanding and you can't expand infinite. Although there is no center or edge to the universe, think of it as a happy huge inner tube.
>>4Z6dI0Q5
Your right, Relativity says that once the universe gathers enough matter and the rate of annihilation goes down we'll all suddenly get flung around as space time quickly retracts like a rubber band.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-15 22:13 ID:3Y7AveRp

if space is not infinite then there must be an egde to space. I wonder what this edge would look light, or if it would even look like anything....

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-15 22:33 ID:rJLQhElw

>>27
It's posts like these that make me hate coming here..

Space is curved.  If you go straight through the universe to the supposed "edge", you will eventually find that you're not really going straight.  It's next to impossible to actually know that you're going in a non-straight direction, though; the curves are stretched so far that it's as if you're going in a straight direction for infinity. 

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-15 22:51 ID:B5u09nJa

>>28
Are you saying that we would perceive space as infinite, rather than it actually being infinite?

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-15 23:27 ID:rJLQhElw

>>29
Pretty much.  If we had the technology (and could see beyond the cosmic horizon which would require telescopes that don't rely on light or electromagnetic waves) we could potentially define the shape of the universe. 

I don't think that will happen for a long, long while.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-16 16:09 ID:+2ycnU77

>>25
no I'm not a troll. haha

>>26
But say. do you think that once space-time retracts it will once again expand?
and then retract, expand, retract and so on?

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-16 17:04 ID:DVvPuX1w

>>31
Yeah, it most likely would.. but it wouldn't be the same as putting a baby in a blender and using future technology to put it back to its original state.

It would be more like making a baby out of absolutely nothing.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-16 17:19 ID:nU0xcU9z

I hope the universe is in a cool shape and not just a sphere.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-16 17:23 ID:bB0S01WS

Pretty much infinite yes. It is ever expanding at the speed of light. More confusingly, everywhere is the centre of the universe!

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-16 18:04 ID:FE1ifF4w

>>34
Proof?

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-16 18:07 ID:DVvPuX1w

>>34
You're so inaccurate it's not even funny..

The universe isn't expanding at the speed of light.  The universe expansion speed is dependent on distance.  Local space is expanding at an unnoticeable speed.  Distant space, on the other hand, is expanding at an exponential rate.  If you look far enough, the universe is expanding at the speed of light.  If you go even FURTHER, the expansion rate is many, many times faster than the speed of light.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-16 18:45 ID:+2ycnU77

>>36

stupid question:
does that means that things at distant space ar bigger than here?

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-16 19:00 ID:DVvPuX1w

>>37
Not at all.  Like I said, local expansion is very, very tiny and is unnoticeable. 

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-18 2:35

I'm feeling really keen, for some of that good ol' green

Marijuana MUST be legalized.

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