Ok, lets say i had a Cube Rite, its inside was 3x3x3 Meters... (27m^3). And for a hypothetical it had a border 1 meter thick of super strong material surrounding it, to make sure it could not break or be altered in any way possible.
Then i filled the whole inside of the cube with water, the whole 27 cubic meters...
Then I froze the water.
Since water expands when it is frozen and the cube cannot change shape (unalterable, superstrong material) what would happen to the water?
Most liquids freeze at a higher temperature under pressure because the pressure helps to hold the molecules together. However, the strong hydrogen bonds in water make it different: water freezes at a temperature below 0 °C under a pressure higher than 1 atm. Consequently water also remains frozen at a temperature above 0 °C under a pressure lower than 1 atm. The melting of ice under high pressures is thought to contribute to why glaciers move. Ice formed at high pressure has a different crystal structure and density than ordinary ice. Ice, water, and water vapor can coexist at the triple point, which is 273.16 K at a pressure of 611.73 Pa.
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Anonymous2007-05-03 11:39 ID:8wd7MrcG
The ice would still freeze provided you lower the temperature enough. I would just not be able to adopt optimum hydrogen bonding configurations.
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Anonymous2007-05-03 14:29 ID:EcskYTnF
you get a black hole
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Anonymous2007-05-05 0:11 ID:nwhbhrDD
OP here, thanks for the info >>5, only reason i asked is coz i asked my chem teacher at school last week and he couldn't give me an answer lol ^_^
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Over 8 Thread2007-05-05 1:31 ID:UrVmAtge
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Anonymous2007-05-05 13:41 ID:dJeaWZN3
sure we can
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Anonymous2007-05-05 14:13 ID:tFz8Ptfp
YOU CAN'T DO THAT! That is extreme violation.
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Anonymous2007-05-05 14:59 ID:5dhZ+yV/
If you just lower it to like -3C then it would still be liquid, but it can form amorphous ice at VERY high pressures.
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Anonymous2007-05-05 16:59 ID:RCs+mSWJ
>>1
The water would start to freeze until the pressure of the system became too high for any more of it to freeze. Some of the water would be ice some of it would be liquid.
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Anonymous2007-05-05 17:01 ID:RCs+mSWJ
>>8
Did your Chem teacher go to Hamburger University?
Check this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice
The ice will probably form an amorphorous structure, or just freeze to a different crystal structure. Phase diagrams for water help as well.
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Anonymous2007-05-06 14:21 ID:KrEhn7YP
I bet we could sell high-pressure-formed ice as a health food or naturopathic remedy
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Anonymous2007-05-07 6:34 ID:S5i1TAKz
>>8
Please, do America a favor (assuming you are American) and never lose that scientific inquisitiveness. We need moar people like you in high school.
But if you're in college asking that question, an hero yourself.
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OP2007-05-09 8:37 ID:kHwX+2Lw
OP here, umm i aint in college, so no an hero pics 4 u and i'm an aussie so bl, AuStralia FTW
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Anonymous2007-05-09 9:41 ID:lksx+YxE
land down underachiever
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Anonymous2007-05-09 23:54 ID:a4in4Epi
42. THE ANSWER IS 42.
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Anonymous2007-05-11 9:34 ID:ph1bh5aw
dose the ise cube have apples frozen in it?
is their a poler bear near by?
LOL, g2gb2/b/!
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Anonymous2007-05-11 11:56 ID:fN+hx3cp
I'm not sure but most probably it won't freeze. But is very unlikely to happen as even the strongest metals have some sort of weakpoint in its molecular structure.
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Anonymous2007-05-11 21:19 ID:thiIFVsu
>>23
oi noob Learn 2 read, i said for a hypothetical it is made of superstrong un-alterable material
yes but he answered that not all hypothese work you fag
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Anonymous2007-05-12 23:51 ID:41TwIA4m
You can't have a hypothetical that leads to a contradiction. Say in this thought experiment I send a particle flying at it which cannot be stopped by ANYTHING. Then what happens?
You can't define something like an infinitely immovable object and still hope to get realistic answers, especially in a science as retarded as Chemistry, the subject of choice for people unable to understand Physics
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4tran2007-05-13 4:22 ID:xa1trm1l
>>30
Not true. All sorts of assumptions are made to make problems more tractable (physics, chemistry, or otherwise). When we calculate projectile motion, we ignore all sorts of things such as inhomogeneity of air (and thus friction), gravitational tidal forces from jupiter, the recoil of the earth and its motion about the common center of mass, coriolis forces, centrifugal forces... That was a specific example, but you get the idea.
Chemistry isn't far isolated from physics by the way. Physical chemistry is still an important subdiscipline that is researched and taught.
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Anonymous2007-05-13 4:49 ID:xTyafaEV
>>30
ok mr number 30 poster, my "hypothetical" was that the cube would not break. Whether this was done by special machines pushing with equal force on the cube or if it made of super strong thick material that surrounded the water for 10m, i dun care, my question is still valid
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Anonymous2009-03-18 2:30
The word pirahna, is all I can think of that rhymes with marijuana