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Name: Anonymous 2007-04-25 23:25 ID:SvLWzKwY

Hay guys, first time here!
Tell me, how talented do you feel you are in maths? Do you often fuck up tasks because of the lack of practice?

As for me, when I was a kid, I really hated paying attention in school, and never saw any purpose in practicing shit, so I really sucked at maths and physics. Now I'm studying to be a mechanical engineer at a university, so things have changed quite a bit.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-25 23:25 ID:pnyGJncQ

Math is the gayest shit ever

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-26 0:40 ID:Y87UKSL8

im great at math, but i fail at arithmetic.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-26 15:29 ID:btw2cZPP

Everything you know and love you have because of math. >>2 just hates math because he sucks at it, and will have a meaningless life.

Practice is necessary for success in math. Not just incredibly important, but absolutely necessary. I could imagine someone with a 200 IQ understanding things on the first run, but not a border-line smart person with IQ 140. I know a few mathematicians, and we are in consensus about hte necessity of practice.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-26 16:24 ID:rQ820KkH

OP here, I actually like maths a bit more than physics, since it may be a bit harder, but at least my calculus and geometry books aren't GODDAMN 3000 PAGES LONG, like my physics books. And I think there are very few people who actually DO suck at maths, it's just that most people fail to find the proper attitude for it.

A bit offtopic: I find the lack of moderation here quite disturbing. :3 Is it the same on all of the text boards?

Name: MODERATOR 2007-04-26 16:41 ID:95Ag7xUi

I MODERATE AND MODULATE

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-26 18:22 ID:bIRnPAim

I hardly ever practice, in the sense of doing homework, or trying examples. I do on the other hand spend a lot of time just thinking about the concepts, and what they could mean (there are several different ways of looking at a relationship). I have done some study in physics, and chemistry, but mathematics are my one true love.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-26 18:35 ID:uTjvCnJ+

Math and Physics major lawl. Liking Maths better now because the Physics department here sucks.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-26 19:05 ID:ilPnH2kq

I like science because I like to steal the chemicals and the lab equipment. Math is just lame

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Name: Anonymous 2007-04-26 21:49 ID:tFWn7sq/

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Name: Anonymous 2007-04-27 2:59 ID:oYiMZWYD

>>1
i do nothing in math and am one of the best students of my year in math

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-28 17:35 ID:MaD7BIpC

>>12
You're also 10 and will never have a job beyond the minimum wage.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-28 18:18 ID:JYvp7uAG

i like science and math but find it limits my creativity which is why i am majoring in the humanities to the dismay of my high school cal and physics teachers

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-28 18:38 ID:DW3yn4/E

>>14
If you don't think math is creative, you suck at it.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-28 18:53 ID:qv9d2cRe

>>15
You have to actually get to the proofs part to understand that. Finding the derivative of x^2 is not exactly creative work.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-28 20:10 ID:GLC0YQ4V

creative proofs are like creative accounting without the jail

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-28 20:20 ID:dksGWrU2

Insights are better than proofs for understanding the concept, in my opinion.Not all proofs are related to insights though.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-29 16:26 ID:GvVvJuEj

Math is for thinking men. I, however, am a working man. I actually get things done for the benefit of society, while all of you are sitting at your desks punching numbers into your calculators

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-29 18:10 ID:AUjmQ313

>>19
lawl, nice one.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-30 0:03 ID:v63oVAx/

>>19

MATH IS THE SOURCE OF EVERYTHING YOU KNOW AND LOVE.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-30 0:30 ID:7bmMGngA

>>19
What do you work on, if the thinking men do not tell you to work on something?

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-30 19:03 ID:m1yRAax8

>>22
Video games

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-30 19:24 ID:kdnJHTZ9

>>23

Video games? The thinking man's greatest acheivement!

Anyway, though, I like math, although homework can be more than a little repetitive and dull. I would have liked to get some math classes more advanced than algebra 2. I'm more interested in science/engineering/mechanics, though.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-01 1:29 ID:8QgKq9ji

>>24

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT ALGEBRA IS.

GO BACK TO HIGH SCHOOL.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-01 9:46 ID:oHeoRxIC

>>4
your a fucking idiot if you think an IQ of 140 is bordreling smart, or if you think theres more than 10 people in the world with an IQ of 200. Get a clue. Get a snickers.


Name: Anonymous 2007-05-01 13:29 ID:isdpQLX8

>>26

``Get'' some fucking English classes.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-01 18:41 ID:O1mXCiM+

>>26

An IQ of 200 isn't that extreme. It just means that your mental age is twice that of your chronological age [times 100] (when compared to the average IQ of 100). It's easy for young people to achieve really high IQs, but it is only because their age is so small. Conversely, it's very difficult for old people to maintain a high IQ because of their old age.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-01 19:07 ID:QI/Ncr/p

>>28
Uh, no. That is how an IQ test is scored for children. For adults the IQ test is (in general, I'm sure there's some variance with different tests) a Gaussian bell curve so that the average is 100 and the standard deviation is 15. In particular, only 5% of the population is above 125, and less than 1% of the population is above 140. The children's grading scale tends to produce scores that are (to put it bluntly) wildly inaccurate in terms of predicting the child's adult IQ because children develop at different rates; a 10 year old who scores 100 on an IQ test designed to give 14 year olds an average of 100 is said to have an IQ of 140, but in actuality it may just be that the 10 year old is maturing (mentally) earlier than his peers.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-01 23:59 ID:3eMOEdGV

the maths i know is instinctive, I find myself using old math skills to retrace how to utilise newer math skills

I'm sure if I practised almost perpetually I'd be like those autistic kids who can do complex mental arithmetic quickly and all in their heads.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-02 15:43 ID:KOCEp5hj

>>30
Youre probably right about the autistic part

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-02 15:57 ID:ctcdPsH8

My fucking English teacher called me stupid (indirectly of course, that fucking whore) but I got a B on my Introductory Analysis course. I could have gotten an A but I watch too much animu... So you don't need to be that smart to know math.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-02 18:46 ID:/8nzsAzy

>>32
bravo! want a metal for u B?

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-02 18:55 ID:KOCEp5hj

>>32

So because your English teacher called you stupid its automatically true?

With that kind of logic i understand why she called you stupid.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-02 19:20 ID:Heaven

>>32
This is the most epic fail I've ever seen. You're claiming you're (somewhat, at least) good at math because you got a B? In fucking introductory analysis? At my university there are three levels of introductory analysis courses, and in the lowest level I'm pretty sure there are people who can't even tie their fucking shoes. You might as well say you're good at physics because you got a B in an introductory E&M class.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-02 19:25 ID:ctcdPsH8

>>34
Okay fine, I wrote that because I wanted a metal for my B. I am not too good at organizing my thoughts which is mainly why she called me stupid but anyway, my point was I am not that smart and I dumped myself into an Analysis course and I did pretty good on it. So math is not ridiculously hard like I thought it was before.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-02 19:27 ID:ctcdPsH8

>>35
Stephen Abbott's Understanding Analysis, Springer, 2001.
Chapters 1-7. You decide, faggot. The professor said it's the second hardest junior level course okay.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-02 19:29 ID:ctcdPsH8

And I am not saying I am good at math. I am saying you don't need to be horrible smart to understand it.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-02 21:55 ID:3M/hbhMi

lots of dumb people in analysis, always
not as much in algebra

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-02 22:54 ID:Heaven

>>37
I don't own a copy of the book, but judging by the ToC on Amazon's "look inside this book", I covered that material and a bit more in an introductory real analysis class that I took my freshman year. (The text was Rudin, Principles of Mathematical Analysis. We covered all but the last chapter.)

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-02 23:38 ID:ctcdPsH8

>>40
oh well, my school sucks then.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-03 1:40 ID:zo+3tZv0

>>40
You used Rudin in freshman year? Isn't that book usually used in first year grad studies analysis?

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-03 1:48 ID:VtAH8IjH

Rudin's "Principles" (aka baby rudin) is an undergrad text, usually taught at the junior/senior level.  It is probably _the_ standard text for undergrad analysis.

Name: Anonymous 2007-05-03 12:06 ID:Heaven

>>42
The first graduate analysis course at my university used Royden when I took it, and was focused mainly on measure theory, and thus was quite a bit more advanced than Rudin. The undergraduate analysis course I took as a freshman was part of an honors program; I think the standard analysis courses use Rosenlicht and tend to be targeted at sophomores/juniors.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-18 2:22

I'm feeling really keen, for some of that good ol' green

Marijuana MUST be legalized.

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