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Integrals

Name: Poisson_Pilote 2007-01-31 13:37

Hi /sci/

I'm having orals for a french computer engineering school (i'm french). Amongst those orals, there is a maths oral. The thing is, we didn't study integrals in class yet. And the book is f*** stupid. So could anybody clearly explain to me what integrals are, how they work, etc.

Thanks a lot ;)

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-31 13:55

Welcome to math and /sci/

Also, do your own homework

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-31 14:19

It's not homework. I'm getting ahead of the program, and I need a little help for that. That's all.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-31 15:53

>> 3
Get a girlfriend.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-31 15:54

Integrals are basically just antiderivatives. The Power Rule is the inverse...etc. The integral's applications, however, are far more useful.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-31 16:21

>>5
 that depends on what science you're working with, but yes, the immdiate applicability of integrals is very cool.

anyways, as >>5 said, it's basically antiderivatives, that being, you find out "what would i have to derive in order to reach the wanted result".
So the integral of f'(x) is f(x).
now the geometrical interpretation would be that if you solve an integral defined over (a,b), you get the area underneith the graph from a to b.  Now, there is alot more to it than just that, but i can't remember it just now and i'd need to get my book etc. but i suggest you just wiki it, or buy your next math book in advance.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-31 17:06

I am looking for the antiderivative to
f(x)=exp(-sqrt(x^2+a))
Does anyone know about a good resource to get this? My ass old version of derive fails at this.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-31 18:38

>>7
unfortunately there is no analytic expression for that indefinite integral.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-31 19:12

>>8
Damn, and it looked so harmless at first. No way to even solve it partly, through substituion or otherwise? Numerically solved it looks like it could be an arctan of sorts. Gonna seek the wisdom of Bronstein tommorow, maybe he will help.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-31 19:38

>>9
actually i was thinking of a different integral. didn't read your question properly hehe. it might have a nice solution. but i can't help you cos i havent done integratio for almost 2 years.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-01 12:05

>>7
i've been fiddling with this for half an hour and i know nothing, please confer to us the, hopefully, attained wisdom of Bronstein.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-01 15:54

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-02 0:07

integrals are (basically) the reversal of differentiation.
d/dx(2x)=2
integral(2x)=x^2 + k
where k is some unknown constant
Obviously, they become rather more complex, and may have multiple different solutions.
Does that help any?
also:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Int%C3%A9grale

Name: 4tran 2007-02-02 1:17

>>7
That's a Gaussian...  I do not believe an analytic solutions exists as of 2007

Name: 4tran 2007-02-02 1:18

The definite integral from -inf to inf exists though.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-02 9:47

>>7
I'm only in calc 2, but in our text it says there is no elementary anti-derivative to that, but you can express it using power series or some voodoo magic?

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-02 11:37

>>13

Thanks a lot.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-02 13:29

French engineers can't integrate?
Im not surprised.

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-02 14:37

>>15
yep and I like the trickery used to get it. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_integral)

Name: Anonymous 2007-02-04 4:18

Just practice and get Mathematica.  Knowing how to use integrals is integral.

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