Time travel is not possible

If it is, we will have been visited by time travelers.

Feel free to disagree and/or flame!

>>78

gb2/lurkmoar/

surely if you travelled through a transuniversal worm hole then somehting of equal mass would have to come through form the other end to reach equlibrium... or what if the mass on one side was much less than the mass in our universe? wouldn;t this mean the worm hole would take in matter until equlibrium was reached?

Black holes are evidence of alien technology

your mums evidence of alien technology

I will not waste my time criticizing or insulting 4chan as 1) it is unlikely to change, and 2) 4chan probably revels in the letters of shock and repulsion that it regularly receives. Instead, I will focus on its rude commentaries, which, after all, are the things that hijack the word "historiographical" and use it to shower yawping stirrers with undeserved encomia. Here's my side of the story: Everybody is probably familiar with the cliche that it blames others for its selfish deeds. Well, there's a lot of truth in that cliche. I don't want to build castles in the air. I don't want to plan things that I can't yet implement. But I do want to champion the poor and oppressed against the evil of 4chan because doing so clearly demonstrates how if it weren't for narrow-minded sad sacks, it would have no friends. I need to spend some time considering how best to push a consistent vision that responds to most people's growing fears about juvenile misers. But even if we disregard all that and examine only 4chan's vexatious, immature hariolations, this seems to me to be enough to show that 4chan's unedifying preoccupation with materialism will make bigotry respectable by the end of the decade. An equal but opposite observation is that 4chan's refrains are a house of mirrors. How are we to find the opening that leads to freedom? To ask that question another way, will peeling back the onion of 4chan's uneducated communications cause 4chan to shed tears or will it merely enhance its desire to feed information from sources inside the government to organizations with particularly self-indulgent agendas? If you need help in answering that question, you may note that while we do nothing, those who demonize my family and friends are gloating and smirking. And they will keep on gloating and smirking until we deal with it appropriately. Most other insolent, callous loan sharks are not as intransigent as they seem. It is also worthy of note that I have to wonder where 4chan got the idea that it is my view that everything it says is completely and entirely true. This sits hard with me because it is simply not true and I've never written anything to imply that it is.

Your guess is as good as mine as to why 4chan wants to force us to bow down low before the worst classes of goofy pinheads I've ever seen. Maybe it's because it plans to progressively narrow the sphere of human freedom. Something recently occurred to me that might occur to 4chan, as well, if it would just turn down the volume of its voice for a moment: 4chan labels anyone it doesn't like as "uncivilized". That might well be a better description of it. Call me old-fashioned, but every so often, you'll see 4chan lament, flog itself, cry mea culpa for seeking to capitalize on our needs and vulnerabilities, and vow never again to be so lawless. Sadly, it always reverts to its old behavior immediately afterwards, making me think that it, serving as judge, jury, and executioner, has decreed that expansionism is a viable and vital objective for our nation's educational institutions. At the risk of sounding a tad redundant, let me add that it is guided by the ignis fatuus of Bonapartism. That fact may not be pleasant, but it is a fact regardless of our wishes on the matter. The vast majority of people would probably be willing to help me challenge 4chan to defend its suggestions or else to change them. These people simply need information, encouragement, direction, and leadership.

In other words, we should agree on definitions before saying anything further about 4chan's mutinous, unbalanced announcements. For starters, let's say that "incendiarism" is "that which makes 4chan yearn to rule with an iron fist." 4chan is the embodiment of everything petty in our lives. Every grievance, every envy, every maledicent ideology finds expression in 4chan. 4chan should be forced to wear a scarlet "W" for "Wants to develop a Pavlovian reflex in us, to make us afraid to study the problem and recommend corrective action". The same might be said of vindictive shambolic-types. Whatever your age, you now have only one choice. That choice is between a democratic, peace-loving regime that, you hope, may create a world in which faddism, adversarialism, and imperialism are all but forgotten and, as the alternative, the saturnine and disloyal dirigisme currently being forced upon us by 4chan. Choose carefully, because 4chan's collaborators can conceive of nothing but vulgar defenses of its impractical newsgroup postings. The mere mention of that fact guarantees that this letter will never get published in any mass-circulation periodical that 4chan has any control over. But that's inconsequential, because you may make the comment, "What does this have to do with debauched doomsday prophets?" Well, once you begin to see the light, you'll realize that by brainwashing its votaries with defeatism, 4chan makes them easy to lead, easy to program, and easy to enslave.

Apparently, if 4chan feels ridiculed by all the attention my letters are bringing it, then that's just too darn bad. Its arrogance has brought this upon itself. While this letter is written with the hope that readers will think for a minute about the situation at hand, if it has spurred us to punish it for its jealous protests, then 4chan may have accomplished a useful thing. 4chan says that gnosticism is a be-all, end-all system that should be forcefully imposed upon us. This is at best wrong. At worst, it is a lie. Shame on 4chan for thinking that people like you and me are illogical!

Come on, 4chan; I know you're capable of thoughtful social behavior. 4chan has stated that space gods arriving in flying saucers will save humanity from self-destruction. That's just pure jujuism. Well, in 4chan's case, it might be pure ignorance, seeing that we must examine the social and cultural conditions that lead people towards iniquity and sin. As mentioned above, however, that is not enough. It is necessary to do more. It is necessary to establish democracy and equality.

4chan's a pretty good liar most of the time. However, it tells so many lies, it's bound to trip itself up someday. To be sure, 4chan's scare tactics, though creative, are a yawning abyss of sadism, but we have a dilemma of leviathan proportions on our hands: Should we tell it like it is, or is it sufficient to compile readers' remarks and suggestions and use them to win the culture war and save this country? That's the question that perplexes me the most, because it's a pity that two thousand years after Christ, the voices of haughty con artists like it can still be heard, worse still that they're listened to, and worst of all that anyone believes them. Perhaps 4chan has some sound arguments on its side, but if so, it's keeping them well hidden; all the arguments I've heard from it are utterly vainglorious.

I need your help if I'm ever to purge the darkness from 4chan's heart. "But I'm only one person," you might protest. "What difference can I make?" The answer is: a lot more than you think. You see, 4chan's disgraceful bedfellows exert themselves to muddy the water, obfuscate the record, and cover up, by sophistries and denials, all of 4chan's pea-brained contretemps. And that's why I'm writing this letter; this is my manifesto, if you will, on how to weaken the critical links in its nexus of gloomy, jaded obstructionism. There's no way I can do that alone, and there's no way I can do it without first stating that if we contradict it, we are labelled contemptible bohemians. If we capitulate, however, we forfeit our freedoms. What we're involved in with 4chan is not a game. It's the most serious possible business, and every serious person -- every person with any shred of a sense of responsibility -- must concern himself with it. In many ways, egocentric sensualists often take earthworms or similar small animals and impale them on a pin to enjoy watching them twist and writhe as they slowly die. Similarly, 4chan enjoys watching respectable people twist and writhe whenever it threatens to seek vengeance on those unrepentant souls who persist in challenging its declamations.

When I'm through with 4chan, it'll think twice before attempting to abandon me on a desert island. Griping about 4chan will not make it stop trying to bamboozle people into believing that it is cunctipotent. But even if it did, it would just find some other way to label everyone it doesn't like as a racist, sexist, fascist, communist, or some equally terrible "-ist". 4chan recently went through a nativism phase in which it tried repeatedly to advocate blasphemous vaporings. In fact, I'm not convinced that this phase of its has entirely passed. My evidence is that no one likes being attacked by the most shallow bribe-seekers you'll ever see. Even worse, 4chan exploits our fear of those attacks -- which it claims will evolve sooner than you think into biological, chemical, or nuclear attacks -- as a pretext to display an irreconcilable hatred toward all nations. If you think that's scary, then you should remember that if you think that no one is smart enough to see through 4chan's transparent lies, then think again. To sum it all up, I resent being exposed to horny parasites.

tl;dr

>>1
1) I can conceive of time travel
2) I have a penis
3) Therefore, time travel exists

>>85
Go back to bed Hal.

Stepping in late...

Anyone who thinks that 'we haven't been visited by time travellers' is proof enough that time travel is impossible is a fucking retard fuckhead fag loser.

Think about it.

If it were ever invented, which I beleive it will be, it would not only be hideously expensive, but you would assume there would only be -one- available device for time travel. Why build two? Since that is most likely the case, the government of whoever built it, most likely the US, would have total control over it, and not let wankers travel back in time and fuck shit up like causality and that, but it would be used solely for research.

And fuck, people have already made shit go backward in time, and scientists have witnessed time loops and time delays to the point that returning particles are in fact from the future, however short the interval is.

>>85
lol
wasted his time posting his opinion!

Time travel is possible (theoretically), but an incredibly stupid idea. Time is a dimension that, normally, we move through at an immense speed, like how we are constantly speeding through space at nearly incomprehensible speeds. To "travel" in time would be to halt your passage through time so as to be left behind by everything else, and since the earth is NOT stationary, and you would end up where the earth was when you first started the time traveling, you would end up somewhere else than on the earth. So you would die. Similar concepts apply to going forward, in which case you are speeding up your passage through time, and ending up in space again. Ouch.

Actualy, 91, that goes againt one of the main reasons time is considered a dimension. That reason is that the veiw of time being a dimension seemingly alows you to deny the existance of true change. By this I mean that in a four-dimensional universe model, you can portray any three dimensional object, moving or not, as a static four dimensional object. If you see us as "moving through time" with some velocity, with empty space behind and in front, then you would need a five dimensional model to do the same things I mentioned above, a sort of "meta-time". However, the idea that the universe has to be static is totaly stupid and losery idea in my opinion.

People today are to stupid to grasp anything other then what they see on a TV screen, Someday I hope this wont be the case but not today. Now I'm not saying I understand much when it comes to the mechanics of time travel but i can say that I understand it wont be like you see in fucking star trek where so chronotons pop out of my ass and take me back 200 years and I'm able to interact with people. So please put down the remote and start to read, And stop watching MTV.

>>40
...just be quiet.

what if a time traveller kidnaps Stephen Hawking? would he be mad?

I'll bet we're already in a timeline that has been influenced by time travelers.

If you got close to the speed of light, or could sit in a strong gravitational field, ie somewhere near a black hole, you could travel into the future.

And if a team ever created a time machine, it would consume so much energy, and cost so much to operate, and pose such a risk to humanity that I doubt the creators or the government or my mum would allow any random dickhole to be taking holidays to the past to win the lottery or kidnap Stephen Hawking.

Another peculiarity, when you bring the temp. of matter down near absolute zero the electrons slow down and the entire atoms appear to blink in and out of existence. one explaination for this is that they are getting left behing in time. as in you are moving past the matter in time.

THERE IS ALREADY a machine that will be able to receive transmissions from the future. Some black physicist is making it possible. thread over

Lol time travel is entirely possible, in fact we are able to do it right now. Time is directly related to distance. For example fly from North America to China, depends on which direction you take, you go forward or backwards in time. I mean why do you change the time on your watch when you cross time zones? Think about it.

interesting but it is not exactly "time travel"
there is man made time and natural time.
so you could not type in 1989 and go to the year 1989
because the earth runs off of natural time.
and as for the speed of light... you would have to have some sort of machine to cancel out the g's of force pushing against you. but it might be possible. but it would be erratic, unreliable, and expensive.

>>101
its suicide. not a whole lot of stuff can get anywhere near the speed of light without totally fucking up. not saying that getting near the speed of light is a way to time travel, just saying that it is possible using this method.

to reference an article i have in front of me, anything that wished to time travel would need a huge fucking mirror moving toward them at some insane speed with positive engery moving toward it, and the mirror reflecting negative energy. someting to do with instability. i dont understand it.

I feel the need, the need for weed!

Marijuana MUST be legalized.