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-1 = 1??? why not?

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-08 6:31

right watch this:
SQRT(1)=1
Thus SQRT(1*1)=1
Thus SQRT(-1*-1)=1
theorem: SQRT(a*b)=SQRT(a)*SQRT(b)
Thus SQRT(-1)*SQRT(-1)=1
Theorem: SQRT(-1)=i where i*i=-1 (i for imaginary)
Thus -1=1

Something is wrong. Where?

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-08 6:43

-1 = goat???? why not?

right watch this:
-1 + 1 = 0
theorem: goat + 1 = 0
Thus -1=goat

Something is wrong. Where?

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-08 6:44

you just changed my life...

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-08 12:24

SQRT(1)= +/-1
so -1= +/-1
so -1 = -1

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-08 12:34

sqrt(a+b) doesn't equal sqrt(a)+sqrt(b)

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-08 13:12

>>5
way to not read the OP correctly, retard

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-08 13:41

>>6
Well neither does sqrt(a*b) equal sqrt(a)*sqrt(b), so whatever

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-08 13:46

>>7

Incorrect!

SQRT(4)*SQRT(16) = 8
SQRT(64) = 8

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-08 14:07 (sage)

>>8
thread ends here

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-08 14:45

>>9
thread ends here

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-08 15:23

You're all idiots. SQRT(a*b)=SQRT(a)*SQRT(b) only holds for positive real a and b. Square roots are much more complicated for negative and complex numbers.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-08 16:05

>>11
You're an idiot if you think square roots are complicated, even if they do involve negative numbers.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-08 16:06

>>11

What the hell are you talking about. SQRT(-4) = SQRT(4)*SQRT(-1) = 2i. >>4 knows what he's talking about.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-08 16:14

>>13
No, >>4 is completely wrong and so are you. SQRT literally means "THE POSITIVE SQUARE ROOT OF". It is NOT multivalued. x^2=1 has two real solutions for x, but x=sqrt(1) has ONLY the positive solution x=1.

Look at this part of the theorem:
SQRT(-1*-1)=1
theorem: SQRT(a*b)=SQRT(a)*SQRT(b)
Thus SQRT(-1)*SQRT(-1)=1

But SQRT(-1)^2=i^2=-1. See where it goes wrong now? When you break up a square root with negative signs, you're off by a complex factor. The SQRT(-4) example you just showed is a special case of taking negative and complex roots.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-08 16:20

>>12
And no, breaking up a negative root into its positive and imaginary part is not complicated, but breaking a positive root into two negative roots (as in the OP's fallacy) IS complicated,  because it arises as a special case of complex square roots, and taking roots of complex numbers is extremely complicated because you need to take a complex log, multiply it by 1/2 and take the complex exponential. Take a course on complex analysis to see how it's done.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-08 16:24

>>15
Again, you are an idiot for thinking it is complicated.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-08 16:34

>>16
For fuck sakes, I'm just trying to give Anonymous a little credit. Have you looked around this forum lately? Between all the dickcheese and 0.999...=1 debates, I'd say yes, complex roots are slightly outside of the average Anon's skillset. Get off my back about fucking semantics already.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-09 2:51

Yes it is complicated, it involves complex numbers.

HAY GUYS DID YOU SEE MY PUN

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-09 10:12

>>17
We don't talk about Anonymous, he's usually a middle-school/high-school student who thinks he knows more than PhD candidates in any given subject.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-10 4:21

11 is right, that theorem: SQRT(a*b)=SQRT(a)*sQRT(b) only holds for a and b being positive real no's.

And anonymous is a fuking genius if you ax me.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-10 10:53

>>20
Ax? Are you from the future?

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-10 14:15

>>20
LOL FUTURAMA

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-10 20:19

Wrong. It's basic fucking knowledge. You can't create an equation that proves that one number is another. It's just wrong.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-10 23:39

>>20
The problem is "ax" is the Futurama pronounciation of the word "ask".  It would still be written out as "ask".

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-11 2:02

>>23
Why on earth did you bother typing this response? The OP clearly asked WHY this "proof" was incorrect, and your respond by telling him it's wrong because it can't be right, and go on to insult him for not knowing that it was wrong despite that his original post clearly indicates he realizes that.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-11 2:18

sqrt(1)= + or - 1

Name: nadia 2006-08-11 2:58

first of all, the operation of radicals aren't closed.. so your theorem isn't well defined.. second.. you yourself probably know the proof is false, why bother??

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-11 3:38

>>26

We have a winner.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-12 3:29

>>26
Fail. Stupid troll.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-12 3:37

>>23
Arts students are funny.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-15 11:11

SQRT(a*b)=SQRT(a)*SQRT(b) only applies when a and b are whole numbers. A whole number is an non-negative and non-zero integer.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-15 12:36

>>31
Wow, you need to get out of middle school and learn about the numbers between integers before you post here.  SQRT(a*b)=SQRT(a)*SQRT(b) applies for all positive, real numbers.  Why the fuck would it only apply to integers?

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-08 6:45

stop bumping this shit

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-08 15:15

The square root of -1 is an imaginary number. Meaning it does not exist in the set of real number. Meaning it is not 1.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-09 14:25

-1=1
If you're talking about |-1|

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-09 16:13

>>33
You think you're funny, but you aren't.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-09 18:11

>>1
>theorem: SQRT(a*b)=SQRT(a)*SQRT(b)
>Thus SQRT(-1)*SQRT(-1)=1

Obviously does not apply to negative numbers.
Theorem: a^(b^c) = a^(b*c)
Theorem: sqrt(x) = x^(1/2)
sqrt(-1) * sqrt(-1) = sqrt(-1)^2 = (-1)^((1/2)*2) = (-1)^1 = (-1)

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