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Earth gets no energy from the sun

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-12 12:26

It's a common misconception, but we don't.  Think about it.  If we were constantly getting net energy from the sun, three billion plus years of it would have more or less melted the surface of the planet.  All heat energy we get is released on the dark side of the earth as higher-entropy IR radiation.  The earth's distance from the sun (amongst other things) defines the equilibrium tempurature.  But it's the low-entropy yellow light that we get from the sun that makes life possible.  All forms of life take higher-entropy intake and put it into a lower entropy state.  The result, however, is that we have to simultaniously output MORE entropy than we reduce.  Ultimately, this is via the IR light that leaves us at night.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-12 13:01

so what you're saying is we do get energy from the sun, we just dont store it all.  which no one thinks we do.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-12 13:12

>>2
You'd be surprised.  And the more important point is that it's not energy that we need from the sun, but entropy.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-12 15:45

>>3
well, lack of entropy.  if we got enbtropy from the sun, we'd be dead.

In any case.  this is an interesting statment.  and it does seem to be correct to a limited extent at least. 
I would argue that we have, however, genuinely recieved some energy from the sun.  while I am too lazy to go through the specific calculations, the earth is to some degree hotter than it would be otherwise if the sun was not shining on it. 
Furthermore, it could be argued that the complex life forms on earth act as a type of chemichal battery storing the sun's energy.  Mind, this is not very signifigant compared to the amount of solar energy that the earth has taken in from it's inception, but it is real nonetheless. 
What is more interesting still is makinds's ability to affect this.  throught the use of tools and science not normally available to biological organisms, we have the ability to further increase this battery, say by growing plants where none could be grown before or utilizing other chemichal means to store energy collected from the sun.  again, this is probibly insignifigant compared to the total energy taken in, but real nonetheless.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-12 15:53

What the hell, you are retarded.

With only 8 hours of night time, the temperature drops by what? 30 degrees? That's because the sun isn't fucking there. It's because of the energy we recieve from the sun that we can keep our world from being an increadibly cold, lifeless husk.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-12 20:38

but still, energy rate in must equal rate of enery out or the temperature will rise.  the temperature has been more or less constant for a very long time.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-12 20:47

Hello... chemical bond energy: carbohydrates, proteins, lipids, oil... fossile fuels. All these are sun's energy stored in the forms of chemical bonds. At first, it is captured and stored via photosynthesis... then animals eat it... some of it is in turn stored in what makes up the animal... until another animal eats etc. Some of the stuff that does not get eaten also accumulates, resulting in stuff like oil.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-12 21:42

>>6
It's called daytime. Every day we get lots of energy, every night we lose a lo of it. Holy hell people.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-12 22:30

Wow, did you guys fail 5th grade science or something?

How fucking retarded must you be to think that the Earth gets no energy from the sun? Wow

I guess solar power is all a lie, too, since we don't get energy from the sun.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-13 0:05

If a fair amount of Earth's energy dissapates into space where does the replacement energy come from?

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-13 2:03

>>10
OBVIOUSLY NOT THE SUN, DUR HUR

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-13 17:04

>>10
OMG LOL what's funnier is this comes 40 minutes after >>9's post
ahahaha

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-13 18:30

>>6
Fuck you its hotter than it's ever been and worse than HELL

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-14 11:56

cool troll, most original i've seen in a while.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-14 21:19

>>14
Trolsl rarely write mor than 1 sentence. Trolling is about making people write long stuff uneccesarily.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-15 0:39

>>15

Actually, this is not totally true. The true purpose of a troll is to incite anger and hate inside of a person, no matter how much they write. The length of a post, however, does carry some corrilation to the amount of emotion a person is going through, of course, as a person who is angry will try to either say something short like "fuck off" or long to try to express every bit of his anger and viewpoint. This is why the true way that a troll works is not in insulting someone, but confronting them with the unwavering certainty that their viewpoint is retarded. This way the person will feel inwardly insulted and feel that in order to avoid appearing like a weakling, and in an attempt to look like the Alpha Male that every person thinks they can be on the internet reguardless of how horrid, fat, ugly, and dumb they are in real life, they end up trying to qualify every bit of their viewpoint as valid. This is where the long posts come in, and why people who are trolled often respond with long posts. However, as I mentioned earlier, this is not the only indicator that a person has been trolled, or that a troll has done their job correctly. Negative emotion is the only currency for trolls. In this line, it is often useful to write a little more than one line. Either in an attempt to avoid looking like a troll, or in an attempt to insult someone on several different fronts, making them feel more strongly in defending themselves. Sometimes, just a one line troll will easily be ignored or brushed off as retarded. Writing a little bit more can make sure you're movin with your auntie and uncle in Bel-Air. I whistled for a cab, and when it came near, the license plate said "fresh" and it had dice in the mirror. If anything, I could say this cab was rare, but I thought 'naw, forget it' "yo home, to Bel-Air". I pulled up to the house around seven or eight, and said to the cabbie "yo homes, smell you later". I looked at my kingdom, I was finally there, to reign on my throne as the Prince of Bel-Air.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-15 1:05

>>1 needs to go back to earth science and learn about the global energy budet

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-15 2:03

>>16

Hilarous post, made my day.  Thanks

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-15 13:54

>>16
tl;dr

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-15 20:34

Mabybe the statement is based on how much energy we get compared to how mjuch is given out.
physics tells us that heat is radiated out from then sun through the vacum of space where it hits out atmosphere heating it.

how much of the energy the sun gives out do we get? who knows, but i heard an estimate of 3 billionths.

which is next to nothing in almost the way .9999=1
so you could say the earth gets no energy from the sun.

we know its not true but it could just be a technicality, in the same way .9999=1 is true because of a technicality

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-15 21:19 (sage)

>>20

Not that great a trolling attempt. I did better when I was in middle school. So unless you are in elementary school, then shame on you

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-16 4:54

>>16

fuck you nigger

Name: Fraal 2006-07-21 4:32

The Earth does get energy from the sun. Look up the solar constant.
However, the Earth radiates away an equal amount of energy. Not only on the nightside, but on all sides at the same time, and as a black body.
To calculate what fraction of the sun's output is absorbed by the Earth, just calculate the cross-sectional area of the Earth divided by the surface area of a sphere of radius 1AU, and multiply this by (1-the Earth's albedo).

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