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I CHALLENGE YOU!

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-18 16:54

prove to me that 1>0

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-18 17:14 (sage)

Consider 1 = 0 + 1
Thus 1 > 0

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-18 17:19

>>2
when you sum 0+1 and say that it is =1 you are already considering that 1>0
fail

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-18 19:02

>>1
i challange you to prove otherwise...

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-18 19:46

>>4
same thing to saying god exists because you cant prove otherwise
fail

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-18 20:13

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Name: Anonymous 2006-05-18 20:46

Fap fap fap

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-18 20:59

>>3
wrong,
1 = 0 + 1 assumes nothing about 1 being greater or less than 0
a = b + a
0 = b
a could be anything.  i.e. -2 + 0 = -2, -2 is not greater than 0
but the argument does fail if 1 doesn't have to be positive, which is what the proof is attempting.

but 1 is the smallest positive integer, so it is > 0 by definition.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-18 21:13

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-19 0:11

>>10
someone translate that please

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-19 2:14

>>11
Huh in English like this?
Step 1 - 1 does not equal 0.
Step 2 - 1 does not equal 0 if and only if not 1 equals 0.
Step 3 - Using Step 1 and Step 2, not 1 equals 0.
Step 4 - 1 is an element of the real number set.
Step 5 - Using Step 4, not 1 equals 0 implies 0 is less than 1 multiplied by 1.
Step 6 - Using Step 3 and Step 5, 0 is less than 1 multiplied by 1.
Step 7 - 1 is an element of the complex number set.
Step 8 - Using Step 7, 1 multiplied by 1 equals 1
Step 9 - Using Step 6 and Step 8, 0 is less than 1

The proof is rather simple.  Originally when I saw the problem I thought that you would go to go back to logical definitions of the natural number set and the ordering operator, potentially messy.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-19 10:48

didnt get it... why not 1 equals 0 implies that 0 is less than 1x1?

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-19 19:00

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-19 22:10

Haha dumbasses, mathematics is simply a model of real life occurances. 1 > 0 is something that has to be observed to be understood, or it is an "a posteriori" concept in unneccesarily complex speak.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-21 9:16

1 > 0 is all about axi-oms,

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-23 10:07

what aboot 24623572457^468 being bigger than 0,000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 then?

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-23 11:49

probably a consequence of 1 being greater than 0

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-23 13:06

What is the smallest positive number

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-23 16:56

0={} is contained in 1={{}}, but {{}} is not contained in {} therefore 0<1. qed.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-23 18:18

0 = |{}| = |{{}}|

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-23 20:26

0 = |{0 = |{}| = |{{0 = |{}| = |{{}}|}}|}| = |{{0 = |{}| = |{{}}|}}|

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-23 20:38

Hai guys is this a regular expression?

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-24 3:22

>>23
Fails at set theory.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-25 4:30

>>21
genuine question here, is |{{}}| actually 0, or 1?

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-25 9:28

>>25
I'd say it's 1.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-25 9:52

>>25
1

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-25 13:18

>>25
What the hell does |{{}}| mean anyway?  I assume || defines a set, and not the absolute value of something... but what are the {{}}?

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-25 14:03

{} is set, || cardinality. probably. who knows what these deluded freaks come up wth.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-25 14:12

Oh, in that case it is 1. (I think I actually learned this in school once!)

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-26 12:23 (sage)

>>23

I lawl'd

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