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Anonymous2006-03-24 10:48
The World Almanac was revised in 1949 World Almanac with figures from the American Jewish Committee. The American Jewish Committee also supplied figures for before that 'didn't reflect the holocaust,' but then there is significant evidence to doubt both the pre-war and the post-war statistics by the World Almanac are accurate.
In other words, they modified their current story in the 1949 World Almanac to reflect their new story, without any physical evidence.
There is no evidence that 6 million Jews died during this period. My source is shown below in full. My source's sources are included in the text, but only as references.
For those who need a refresher, World War 2 was from 1939 to 1945.
(Note: I'm trying to post the full source, but I'm getting problems with my submission being too large.)
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Anonymous2006-03-24 10:51
From Arthur R. Butz's The Hoax of the Twentieth Century
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How Many Jews?
In this introductory chapter, we quickly review the principal problems that
arise when demographic questions are asked. We then indicate, how demographic
problems are resolved in this book, but indicate that the specific task of resolution
must be deferred until later in the book.
The problems inherent in a demographic study are formidable. First, all
sources of post-war primary data are private Jewish or Communist sources (exclu-
Nation Europa, vol. 23 (Oct. 1973), 50; vol. 25 (Aug. 1975), 39. The Ginsburg beating incident is
well known and is mentioned by App, 20.
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sively the latter in the all important cases of Russia and Poland). Second, it appears that one can get whatever results desired by consulting the appropriately selected pre-war and post-war sources. Consider world Jewish population. The 1939
study of Arthur Ruppin, Professor of Jewish Sociology at the Hebrew University
of Jerusalem, gave 16,717,000 Jews in the world in 1938.20 Because Ruppin (who
passed away in 1943) was considered the foremost expert on such matters, on account of many writings on the subject over a period of many years, the estimates
of other pre-war sources tend to agree with him. Thus, the American Jewish
Committee estimate for 1933, which appears in the 1940 World Almanac, was
15,315,359. The World Almanac figure for 1945 is 15,192,089 (page 367); no
source is given, but the figure is apparently based on some sort of religious census. The 1946 World Almanac revised this to 15,753,638, a figure which was retained in the editions of 1947 (page 748), 1948 (page 572), and 1949 (page 289).
The 1948 World Almanac (page 249) also gives the American Jewish Committee
estimate for 1938 (sic), 15,688,259 while the 1949 World Almanac (page 204) reports new figures from the American Jewish Committee, which were developed in
1947-1948: 16,643,120 in 1939 and 11,266,600 in 1947.
However, New York Times military expert Hanson Baldwin, in an article written in 1948 dealing with the then forthcoming Arab-Jewish war on the basis of information available at the UN and other places, gave a figure of 15 to 18 million
world Jewish population as well as figures for such things as Jews in Palestine,
Jews in the Middle East, Arabs in Palestine, total Arabs, total Moslems, etc.21
Such a sketch illustrates some of the simpler uncertainties that exist in a demography study. To carry the matter further, the 11-12 million postwar world
Jewish population figure, which it is necessary to claim in order to maintain the
extermination thesis, is very vulnerable on two points. The first is the set of statistics offered for the U.S., and the second is the set offered for Eastern Europe.
Both, especially the latter, are subject to insuperable uncertainties. Let us first
consider the United States. Census figures for the total U.S. population are:22
while U.S. Jewish population figures, as given by the Jewish Statistical Bureau
(subsidiary of either the American Jewish Conference or the Synagogue of America), H. S. Linfield, Director, are:23
20
Ruppin, 30-33.
21
New York Times (Feb. 22, 1948), 4.
22
World Almanac (1931), 192; (1942), 588; (1952), 394; (1962), 251.
23
World Almanac (1931), 197; (1942), 593; (1952), 437; (1962), 258.
Chapter 1: Trials, Jews and Nazis
Table 2: U.S. Jewish population
YEAR JEWISH POPULATION
1917 3,388,951
1927 4,228,029
1937 4,770,647
1949 5,000,000
1961 5,530,000
It is important to note that all of the U.S. Jewish population figures are given
by the same source (Linfield).
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Anonymous2006-03-24 10:52
The indicated growth of U.S. Jewish population, 1917-1937, is 40.8%, while
the growth of total U.S. population, 1920-1940, is 24.6%. This contrast is generally reasonable, since in the period under consideration Jewish immigration was
fairly heavy. However, Jewish immigration into the U.S. raises some problems of
its own. The American Jewish yearbook gave a net Jewish immigration for the
years 1938-1943 and 1946-1949 (inclusive) of 232,191.24 Figures for 1944 and
1945 do not seem to be available. It was in those two years, incidentally, that an
indeterminate number of Jews were admitted to the U.S. âoutside of the regular
immigration procedure.â It was claimed that there were only 1,000 such Jews
quartered at a camp near Oswego, New York, and that they were not eligible for
admission to the U.S. This was supposed to be a U.S. contribution to relieving the
problems of refugees, but the whole episode seems most strange and suspicious.25
Rather than attempt to settle the problem of the extent of Jewish immigration,
suppose one allows the Jewish population a growth rate in 1937-1957 at least
equal to that of the U.S. Jewish population of 1917-1937, as seems at least reasonable in view of various facts, e.g., the reasons which sent 1.5 million Jews to
Palestine during the World War II and aftermath period appear to motivate immigration to the U.S. just as well, and no national or racial immigration quotas were
applicable to Jews as such. In such a case, there should be at least 6,678,000 Jews
in the U.S. in 1957, not the 5,300,000 that are indicated. There are about
1,400,000 Jews missing from the interpolated figures for 1957, and we consider
this a conservative figure for the reason given. The period 1937-1957 was one of
Jewish movement on an unprecedented scale.
On the other hand, we can adopt an equally conservative approach and assume
that the 4,770,647 Jews of 1937 grew in 1937-1957 at the same rate as the U.S.
population in 1940-1960. Under this assumption, these should have become
6,500,000 Jews in the U.S. in 1957. If one adds the reasonable figure of 300,000
more due to immigration, we have 6,800,000 in 1957. Thus, by either method of
extrapolation the figures offered for post-war U.S. Jewish population are at least
approximately 1.5 million short for 1957.
The specific major fault of the U.S. Jewish population figures is the inexplicably small claimed growth from 1937 to 1949 despite record Jewish movement and
24
World Almanac (1952), 438.
25
US-WRB (1945), 64-69; New York Times (June 10, 1944), 1; (June 13, 1944), 1; (Aug. 10, 1944),
5; (Oct. 24, 1944), 14; (Oct. 25, 1944), 13; Myer, 108-123.
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a very open U.S. immigration policy.
Eastern Europe, however, presents the core of the demographic problem. In
order to avoid very serious confusion, one must first recognize that there have
been extensive border changes in Eastern Europe in the course of the twentieth
century. A map of Europe on the eve of World War I (1914) is given as Fig. 1. A
map for January 1938 showing, essentially, Europe organized according to the
Treaty of Versailles, before Hitler began territorial acquisitions, is given in Fig. 2,
and Fig. 4 shows the post-war map of Europe. The principal border change at the
end of World War II was the moving westward of the Soviet border, annexing the
three Baltic countries (Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia) and parts of Romania,
Czechoslovakia, Poland, and East Prussia. Poland was compensated with the remainder of East Prussia and what used to be considered eastern Germany; the effect was to move Poland bodily westward.
Pre-war (1938) Jewish population estimates for Eastern Europe were offered
by H. S. Linfield and the American Jewish Committee in the 1948 (sic) World
Almanac (page 249). Post-war (1948) figures are published in the 1949 World
Almanac (page 204).
Table 3: Eastern European Jewish population (est.)
The claimed Jewish loss for Eastern Europe is thus 4,985,912. The figure for
the USSR includes, in both cases, the three Baltic countries and the Jews of Soviet
Asia. The pre-war figures are in all cases in close agreement with the figures that
Ruppin published shortly before the war. To the extent that the extermination legend is based on population statistics, it is based precisely on these statistics or
their equivalents.
The trouble is that such figures are absolutely meaningless. There is no way a
Western observer can check the plausibility, let alone the accuracy, of such figures. He must either be willing to accept Jewish or Communist (mainly the latter)
claims on Jewish population for Eastern Europe, or he must reject any number offered as lacking satisfactory authority.
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Anonymous2006-03-24 10:53
It is possible to reinforce our objection on this all important point and simultaneously deal with a reservation that the reader may have; it would appear excessively brazen to claim the virtual disappearance of Polish Jewry, if such had not
been essentially or approximately the case or if something like that had not happened. This seems a valid reservation, but one must recall that much of the territory that was considered Polish in 1939 was Soviet by 1945. It was possible for
Polish Jewry to virtually disappear, if, during the 1939-1941 Russian occupation
of Eastern Poland, the Soviets had dispersed large numbers of Polish Jews into the
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Soviet Union and if, during 1941-1944, the Germans had concentrated Polish
Jews eastwards, with the Soviet Union ultimately absorbing many of these Jews
into its territory, with those who did not wish to remain in the Soviet Union emigrating, mainly to Palestine and the U.S., but also to some extent to the new Poland and other lands. This, in fact, is what happened to the Jews who had resided
in Poland before the war.
Whatever may be said about Soviet Jewish policy after, say, 1950, it is clear
that the earlier policies had not been anti-Jewish and had encouraged the absorption of Jews into the Soviet Union. It is known that many Polish Jews were absorbed during and immediately after the war, but of course numbers are difficult
to arrive at. Reitlinger considers this problem and settles on a figure of 700,000,
without giving reasons why the correct figure might not be much higher. He then
notes that the evidence that he employs of extermination of Jews in Russia
(documents alleged to be German) indicates about the same number of Soviet
Jews exterminated, from which he correctly infers that, in the period 1939-1946,
the Soviet Jewish population may have actually increased.26 This important concession, coming from the author of The Final Solution, shows that our unwillingness to accept the Communist figures need not be regarded as motivated merely
by the necessities of our thesis. The figures are inarguably untrustworthy. It is
claimed by the Soviets that their Jewish population declined by 38%, despite the
acquisition of territory containing many Jews. Since the USSR is one of the lands
where âJewâ is a legally recognized nationality, the Soviets do indeed possess accurate figures on the number of Jews they have but have chosen (in Reitlingerâs
opinion, if you choose not to accept this authorâs) to claim an utterly mythical
Jewish population loss of 38%.
Likewise with the value to be attached to the remainder of the figures offered.
The most relevant research by a demographer appears to be that of Leszek A.
Kosinski of the University of Alberta (Geographical Review, Vol. 59, 1969, pp.
308-402 and Canadian Slavonic Papers, Vol. 11, 1969, pp. 357-373), who has
studied the changes in the entire ethnic structure of East Central Europe (i.e. excluding Germany and Russia) over the period 1930-1960. He explains the extreme
difficulties with basic statistics:
âThe criteria used in compilation differ from country to country and are
not always precise. In principle, two types are used: objective criteria, such as
language, cultural affiliation, and religious denomination, and subjective cri
teria, based on the declaration of the persons themselves. Each type has vir
tues and deficiencies. Objective criteria define nationality only indirectly and
are difficult to apply in marginal cases (for example, bilingual persons).
The same criticism applies even more to subjective criteria. External pres
sure and opportunism can influence the results, especially where national con
sciousness is not fully developed or where an honest answer can bring unde
sirable consequences. Official data are not always reliable, then, even when
they are not forged, as has also occurred. However, criticism of the official
Reitlinger, 534, 542-544.
Arthur R. Butz, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century
data cannot be applied in the same degree to all the countries, and reliability
is very much a function of national policy.â
Jews are of course one of the groups Kosinski is interested in, and he presents
various figures, generally comparable to those given above, for numbers of prewar Jews. However, his post-war data are so useless from this point of view that
he does not even attempt to offer specific post-war numbers for Jews, although he
offers post-war figures for other groups, e.g. gypsies, giving numbers less significant, statistically, than the numbers of Jews who, according to the extermination
mythologists, survived in Eastern Europe. It is true that he accepts the extermination legend in a general way and presents a bar graph showing a catastrophic decrease in the Jewish populations of Poland, Hungary, Romania and Czechoslovakia. He also remarks that the combined war-caused population losses for Yugoslavs, Jews, Poles and east Germans was about 12.5-14 million, not breaking the
total down, and referring the reader to the statistical summary Population
Changes in Europe Since 1939 by Gregory (Grzegorz) Frumkin, whose figures
for Jews come from the American Jewish Congress, the Zionist Organization of
America, and the Centre de Documentation juive contemporaine (Center for Contemporary Jewish Documentation) in Paris.
However, the point is that Kosinski arrives at no figures for Jews, as he obviously should not, given the problems he has noted. The ethnic population figures
from Communist Hungary are based on language, and the figures from Communist Poland, Communist Czechoslovakia, and Communist Romania are based on
ânationality,â whatever that means in the various cases. Naturally, he apologizes
for his use of âofficial statistics, imperfect as these may be.â We will return to
demographic problems, especially those which involve the Polish Jews, in Chapter 7.
We must also remember that the problem of counting Jews in Western countries contains enormous difficulties on account of the lack of any legal, racial, or
religious basis for defining a âJew.â As an example, the statistics available to
Reitlinger indicate to him that early in World War II there were 300,000 Jews in
France, including refugee German Jews.27
The Nazis, on the other hand, thought that there were 865,000, and I see no
motivation for deliberate inflation of this figure; other figures used by the Nazis
were not wildly inflated compared to the figures of other sources.28 I should add
that I really have no idea how many Jews there are in the U.S. I can consult the
World Almanac, which will tell me that there are about 6,000,000, but I cannot
see how that figure was arrived at and have little confidence in it. As far as I
know, the correct figure could as easily be 9,000,000. There must be at least
4,000,000 in the New York area alone.
To summarize what has been said with respect to Jewish population statistics:
the problem of compiling such statistics is formidable even without political interference or pressure. Moreover, in the demographic argument for a five or six million drop in world Jewish population, the sources and authorities for the figures
Sorry... It's written
"but then there is significant evidence to doubt both the pre-war and the post-war statistics by the World Almanac are accurate. "
but it should be
"but then there is significant evidence to doubt both the pre-war and the post-war statistics by the World Almanac are NOT accurate."
In editing the sentence I left out the not.
Sometimes I hate not being able to edit posts.. Oh well..