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Astral Projection and String Theory

Name: Anonymous 2006-01-24 6:40

So, I was reading a bit about Astral Projection, and the possibility of it not being entirely in one's head.
Does anyone know enough about this and String Theory to comment on whether recent discoveries/theories could suggest that there's something in AP afterall?

With Astral Projection, we're talking shifting the vibration of subtle energy bodies to work on other planes. Of course, the world that we experience is one that happens to be vibrating at a similar level as us, so the possibilities of other 'dimensions' existing in the same plane may be likely.

We currently have cameras that can take pictures of one's aura (understood to be electromagnetic vibration?) and it's said that when people undergo AP, they tend to get stuck to things like pylons and powerstations.

When you look closely at the theory of it, it doesn't seem too batshit insane. There are loads of forums with thousands of people sharing their experiences doing this... but maybe they're all just fucking nuts.

So, with what we know about String Theory, is AP definately head-games?

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-05 2:54

whoa this therad is long , I am going to try this and get back to you

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-05 8:06 (sage)

>>115-120
are DQN

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-05 10:12

The longest thread is the dumbest one and this thread is pretty fucking dumb godamit.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-05 16:44

>>122
non-japanese who say "DQN" are weeaboo lamer fags

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-05 16:47

>>124
NO U

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-05 18:30

This thread lacks serious first person research.  Just check out some books from a library and try it yourself.  If it works or doesn't work, post your results here.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-05 22:45

>>126
This thread lacks serious first person research.  Just check out this dude from behind the library and try some of his wares yourself.  If it works or doesn't work, post your results here.

fix'd

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-06 5:29

>>127

fix'd?

lol

more liek "fail'd"

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-11 6:10

what the hell is this thread about

i just read the topic and right there decided not to read a single post

Name: Little psycic 2006-02-20 0:27

you people are wrong. you sound like my parents. i may be 12 but know wat im sayin. most people believe in OBE cuz they experiened psycic things. like ive had dreams telling the future. then developed  lucid dreams in 2nd grade. and just last year i developed mind reading. so stop bashing me and my other gifted people.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-20 2:42

>>129

You didn't miss anything.  Some moron doesn't understand the scientific method and wants scientists to investigate Astral Projection because he thinks it's real.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-20 6:45

>>131

LOL

Yeah, that's what happened. Are you sure you understand scientific method? I always thought the idea was to answer the unanswerables. Not downplay the importance or relevance of the unanswerables because they don't fit into your dogmatic "scientific" (SNORT~!) view.

I'm sorry but science isn't a religion. "It's bullshit" or "It's not real" doesn't cut it for anyone that understands the very fundamentals of methodology. It's nice to pretend- but there comes a time to grow the fuck up and start asking questions.

Name: d 2006-02-20 15:59

>>132
You can pretend all you want, but in the end it comes down to the fact that "take acid and see cool shit" isn't and never will be a valid hypothesis. There is nothing to prove even if we wanted to.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-20 22:50 (sage)

THIS THREAD IS LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-20 23:02

fuck science! half of those dinosours are made up by scientist. people dont believe in psychic things cuz they dont want to or havent expierened. or some people are to stupid cuz these sort of gifts take alot of brain power to control it.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-21 2:20

>>134
Table-breaking jerk

>>135
Troll

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-21 4:07

>>133

You can pretend all *you* want, but "there's nothing to prove" never falls out of a scientists mouth. "There's nothing to prove" is what was said by guy that still thinks Dinosaurs were put in the ground by satan to test us. I asked him to "prove it" and he said: "It's a test, there's nothing to prove."

Keep dreaming. "Nothing prove" isn't methodology and it isn't science. Lemme guess, you're the same guy that got trounced in the race thread aren't you? Aren't you seeing a pattern with your ignorance and stupidity here?

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-21 4:36 (sage)

People have claimed to have psychic abilities, claimed to be able to do "astral projection," whatever the fuck that meaningless noise may be, for a long time now.

Whenever they are put to empirical test, they are always found lacking.  ALWAYS.

100+ years of scientific research into psi / psionics / whatever you want to call it coming up with absolutely zero results is pretty strong indirect evidence for the null hypothesis.

Those who claim this shit is real bear the burden of proof.  Until they do so, and I ain't holding my breath here, the null hypothesis holds.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-21 7:56

>>138

They were never put to an "empirical test". And I'd like to see proof, if you have it. Never the less, psi / psionics and all this  other noise isn't Astral Projection.

"Burden of proof", yeah LOL ok, like you can be convinced. You're a fanatic, buddy. And you make science look REALLY REALLY bad with the "fuck methodology, there's nothing to prove!" attitude.

end of convsersation.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-21 12:54 (sage)

>>139 They were never put to an "empirical test"

U FAIL IT for never having heard of the Rhine Institute, the PEAR studies, or James Randi.

U FAIL IT further for being unaware that those who make the positive existential claim bear the burden of proof.

In conclusion, LURK MOAR

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-21 13:11

>>140

YAAAAAAAAWN
"End of conversation" means just that.
you get no more opinions
enjoy your fail

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-21 21:19 (sage)

you cannot put to the empirical test what exists and happens and is only experienced by one self by fucking definition, trying to do it only hinders and prevents occurance, for this reason, you will forever be stuck where you are for this is where your world of understanding is stuck, and will probably never get past, it's quite alright for those who lay on the other side of the matter for they know they have become better people for it

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-22 3:32

>>142
"If it is not math, it is opinion."  --Robert A. Heinlein

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-22 3:57

>>143
But he's a nazi. Can you trust a nazi?

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-22 4:16

>>142

Yak yak yak yak
you keep saying that there's nothing to prove and that = scientific method

you are wrong.

sorry.

fail less next round

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-22 12:15 (sage)

>>145
fails at reading comprehension.  Put down the bong, you've had enough.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-22 13:12

>>146

I didn't even read your fucking post. And I'm not holding a bong, BITCH. So shut the fuck up, swat away the numerous cocks fighting for territory on your face and take your fail like a good faggort.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-22 13:25 (sage)

>>147
If you have nothing substantive to contribute, gb2/b/

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-22 17:57

>>1
Perhaps you should see if the mods will create a metaphysical board.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-22 20:45

This thread needs more concrete proof from both parts.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-22 22:48

>>150

My concrete proof is that the idiot babbling about Astral Projection has exactly zero evidence.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-23 3:21

>>151
Truth was told.

Furthermore, those who make the positive existential claim bear the burden of proof.

Anyone is free to claim anything at all.  But if they cannot prove that it's real, the rest of us are free to ignore them.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-23 14:12

>>151
>>152

PROOF OF FAIL
RE-LEARN SCIENTIFIC METHOD PLZ
THX

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-24 0:35

>>153

That is the scientific method.  The guy making the positive claim needs to present his evidence.  If he doesn't have any, he should devise an experiment to test his claim.  And of course, we're not obligated to carry out his experiment, because we don't care.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-24 4:25

Evidence of what, dipshit? you guys need to get the hint: avoiding the "unanswerables" isn't scientific method. if string theory and m theory have a place, then so does astral projection. (lol "PROVE" there's 3 dimensions. I say there's only one dimension and that time and space are only dimensional "symptoms")

I don't understand why you guys keep referring back to acid trips and ESP and all this nonsense. Are you sure you understand what astral projection is?

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-24 7:57

AP is fun because, while it is pure fantasy, it's still plausible enough for the ignorant sheep among you to believe it. In a way it's a useful to seperate the chaff from the knowledgeable. AP isn't "unanswerable". Indeed, here's the answer: there is nothing to it.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-24 13:07

>>156

signed,
 high school faggot bosian

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-24 21:01

>>155
If you are claiming astral projection is real, prove it.  Show us your evidence.  Show us the experiments you have devised to show the difference between astral projection and a vivid dream.  Show us empirical proof.  If you are making a claim, PROVE IT.

Is that clear enough for you?  Or will I have to come to your home and put on a skit for you with big fuzzy puppets?

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-25 21:13

>>155

No one is "avoiding" an "unanswerable" here.  Do you really mean to say that Astral Projection is an "unanswerable" question about the universe?  PROTIP: Science does not deal with unanswerables.  Science deals with that which is testable.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-27 3:26

What is the difference between astral projection and lucid dreaming? I've experienced lucid dreaming on several occations, but only heard about "astral projection"

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