So, I was reading a bit about Astral Projection, and the possibility of it not being entirely in one's head.
Does anyone know enough about this and String Theory to comment on whether recent discoveries/theories could suggest that there's something in AP afterall?
With Astral Projection, we're talking shifting the vibration of subtle energy bodies to work on other planes. Of course, the world that we experience is one that happens to be vibrating at a similar level as us, so the possibilities of other 'dimensions' existing in the same plane may be likely.
We currently have cameras that can take pictures of one's aura (understood to be electromagnetic vibration?) and it's said that when people undergo AP, they tend to get stuck to things like pylons and powerstations.
When you look closely at the theory of it, it doesn't seem too batshit insane. There are loads of forums with thousands of people sharing their experiences doing this... but maybe they're all just fucking nuts.
So, with what we know about String Theory, is AP definately head-games?
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Anonymous2006-02-05 2:54
whoa this therad is long , I am going to try this and get back to you
This thread lacks serious first person research. Just check out some books from a library and try it yourself. If it works or doesn't work, post your results here.
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Anonymous2006-02-05 22:45
>>126
This thread lacks serious first person research. Just check out this dude from behind the library and try some of his wares yourself. If it works or doesn't work, post your results here.
i just read the topic and right there decided not to read a single post
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Little psycic2006-02-20 0:27
you people are wrong. you sound like my parents. i may be 12 but know wat im sayin. most people believe in OBE cuz they experiened psycic things. like ive had dreams telling the future. then developed lucid dreams in 2nd grade. and just last year i developed mind reading. so stop bashing me and my other gifted people.
You didn't miss anything. Some moron doesn't understand the scientific method and wants scientists to investigate Astral Projection because he thinks it's real.
Yeah, that's what happened. Are you sure you understand scientific method? I always thought the idea was to answer the unanswerables. Not downplay the importance or relevance of the unanswerables because they don't fit into your dogmatic "scientific" (SNORT~!) view.
I'm sorry but science isn't a religion. "It's bullshit" or "It's not real" doesn't cut it for anyone that understands the very fundamentals of methodology. It's nice to pretend- but there comes a time to grow the fuck up and start asking questions.
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d2006-02-20 15:59
>>132
You can pretend all you want, but in the end it comes down to the fact that "take acid and see cool shit" isn't and never will be a valid hypothesis. There is nothing to prove even if we wanted to.
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Anonymous2006-02-20 22:50 (sage)
THIS THREAD IS LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG
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Anonymous2006-02-20 23:02
fuck science! half of those dinosours are made up by scientist. people dont believe in psychic things cuz they dont want to or havent expierened. or some people are to stupid cuz these sort of gifts take alot of brain power to control it.
You can pretend all *you* want, but "there's nothing to prove" never falls out of a scientists mouth. "There's nothing to prove" is what was said by guy that still thinks Dinosaurs were put in the ground by satan to test us. I asked him to "prove it" and he said: "It's a test, there's nothing to prove."
Keep dreaming. "Nothing prove" isn't methodology and it isn't science. Lemme guess, you're the same guy that got trounced in the race thread aren't you? Aren't you seeing a pattern with your ignorance and stupidity here?
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Anonymous2006-02-21 4:36 (sage)
People have claimed to have psychic abilities, claimed to be able to do "astral projection," whatever the fuck that meaningless noise may be, for a long time now.
Whenever they are put to empirical test, they are always found lacking. ALWAYS.
100+ years of scientific research into psi / psionics / whatever you want to call it coming up with absolutely zero results is pretty strong indirect evidence for the null hypothesis.
Those who claim this shit is real bear the burden of proof. Until they do so, and I ain't holding my breath here, the null hypothesis holds.
They were never put to an "empirical test". And I'd like to see proof, if you have it. Never the less, psi / psionics and all this other noise isn't Astral Projection.
"Burden of proof", yeah LOL ok, like you can be convinced. You're a fanatic, buddy. And you make science look REALLY REALLY bad with the "fuck methodology, there's nothing to prove!" attitude.
YAAAAAAAAWN
"End of conversation" means just that.
you get no more opinions
enjoy your fail
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Anonymous2006-02-21 21:19 (sage)
you cannot put to the empirical test what exists and happens and is only experienced by one self by fucking definition, trying to do it only hinders and prevents occurance, for this reason, you will forever be stuck where you are for this is where your world of understanding is stuck, and will probably never get past, it's quite alright for those who lay on the other side of the matter for they know they have become better people for it
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Anonymous2006-02-22 3:32
>>142
"If it is not math, it is opinion." --Robert A. Heinlein
I didn't even read your fucking post. And I'm not holding a bong, BITCH. So shut the fuck up, swat away the numerous cocks fighting for territory on your face and take your fail like a good faggort.
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Anonymous2006-02-22 13:25 (sage)
>>147
If you have nothing substantive to contribute, gb2/b/
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Anonymous2006-02-22 17:57
>>1
Perhaps you should see if the mods will create a metaphysical board.
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Anonymous2006-02-22 20:45
This thread needs more concrete proof from both parts.
That is the scientific method. The guy making the positive claim needs to present his evidence. If he doesn't have any, he should devise an experiment to test his claim. And of course, we're not obligated to carry out his experiment, because we don't care.
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Anonymous2006-02-24 4:25
Evidence of what, dipshit? you guys need to get the hint: avoiding the "unanswerables" isn't scientific method. if string theory and m theory have a place, then so does astral projection. (lol "PROVE" there's 3 dimensions. I say there's only one dimension and that time and space are only dimensional "symptoms")
I don't understand why you guys keep referring back to acid trips and ESP and all this nonsense. Are you sure you understand what astral projection is?
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Anonymous2006-02-24 7:57
AP is fun because, while it is pure fantasy, it's still plausible enough for the ignorant sheep among you to believe it. In a way it's a useful to seperate the chaff from the knowledgeable. AP isn't "unanswerable". Indeed, here's the answer: there is nothing to it.
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If you are claiming astral projection is real, prove it. Show us your evidence. Show us the experiments you have devised to show the difference between astral projection and a vivid dream. Show us empirical proof. If you are making a claim, PROVE IT.
Is that clear enough for you? Or will I have to come to your home and put on a skit for you with big fuzzy puppets?
No one is "avoiding" an "unanswerable" here. Do you really mean to say that Astral Projection is an "unanswerable" question about the universe? PROTIP: Science does not deal with unanswerables. Science deals with that which is testable.
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Anonymous2006-02-27 3:26
What is the difference between astral projection and lucid dreaming? I've experienced lucid dreaming on several occations, but only heard about "astral projection"