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What is 0^0?

Name: Rentacle Tape 2005-09-09 14:27

You heard me, is it 0 because 0*anything=0 or is it 1 because anything^0=1?

Name: Hadakan 2005-09-09 17:16

It is none.

0^0 is an undefined expression.

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-09 17:28

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-09 23:03

But you can graph n/0

Name: Cynic 2005-09-10 1:46

I say 0.5, just to piss my math teachers off. xD

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-10 7:00

Name: CCFreak2K 2005-09-13 1:23

mIRC:
//say $calc(0^0)
<CCFreak2K> 1

Hmm...

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-19 18:07

N^0 = N/N.  Therefore 0^0 = 0/0, which is undefined.

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-19 19:47

Perl says it's 1.

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-20 22:39

>>9

If Perl told you to jump off a cliff, would you?

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-21 0:05

>>10
I would

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-21 4:41

it's one okay? because there's exactly one way to order zero things in zero positions.

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-21 6:44

Name: Anonymous 2005-10-08 2:28

>>13
Yesssss.

>>2
>>8
Nooooo.  0/0, 0^0, 1^infinity, etc. are all /indeterminate./  Indeterminate quanitities do not exist, that's true, but they exist in an entirely different ways from undefined quantities.  There is no value that satisfies an undefined quantity, whereas there are infinitely many values that satisfy an indeterminate form.

0^0 = 0/0 = Any real number at all.

On the other hand,

n/0 (n != 0) = Nothing.

They both don't exist, but they are very, very different, and not just in theory.

Name: Anonymous 2005-11-04 21:11

lim(x^x,x,0) = 1.  that's good enough for me.

Name: rentacle tape 2005-11-05 5:04

>>14

what about in the complex number set?

Name: Anonymous 2005-11-08 22:56

Don't even go there.  sqrt(-1)=i.  i^2=-1.  (2+i)^2=2^2+2(2i)+i^2=4+4i-1=3+4i.  sqrt(-8)=2isqurt(2).  Just forget complex numbers.

Name: Anonymous 2005-11-09 1:46

>>15

That's incorrect.  The lim(x^x,x,0) = 1 only from the RHS.  If the absolute limit is to be defined for when x->0 then the limit from the LHS must equal RHS in which case it does not.  Trust me on this, I have a degree in math.

Name: Anonymous 2005-11-09 13:09

lim(x^x,x,-0) is undefined, hence no limit at all.

0^0 is often defined to be 1, because zero over zero is one (i.e. there's only one way to order nothing)

Name: Anonymous 2005-11-09 17:42

but 0^0^0 = 0

Name: Anonymous 2005-11-12 11:10

OH SHIT YOU GUYS BETTER STOP DIVIDING BY ZERO!!!!

Name: Anonymous 2005-11-13 0:35

I personally think of the exponential in that case as a kind of special function which is just defined to be 1 at zero.

Not very formal, but I never was.

Name: Anonymous 2005-11-13 13:34

>>19
0/0 is indeterminate; read up on limits for more detail.

Consensus says 0^0 = 1, but there seems to be no proof as yet.

Name: Anonymous 2005-11-14 12:52

>>23

oops, i thought the binomial coefficient read n over k, not n choose k. but i'm excused because english isn't my native language.

Name: Anonymous 2005-11-14 13:14

>>23

btw in mathematics you can just define things to be something if it's convenient. you don't need to prove it

Name: Anonymous 2005-11-14 14:42

>>25
But through expansion of the meaning of a^n in such a way that it still holds true for all values a != 0, you can achieve a solution that will also work for a=0.

Name: Anonymous 2005-11-26 23:53

Well, multiplication is iterated addition, right?

Therefore...

2+0 = 2x1 = 2

2+2 = 2x2 = 4

2+2+2 = 2x3 = 6

So exponents are iterated multiplication, which is iterated addition.

2+2 = 2^2 = 4

2+2+2+2 = 2^3 = 8

2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2 = 2

Therefore, should 0^0 not be 0x0 zero times?

Idunno, I'm tired and have the flu... hehe

Name: Styrofoam !DWDMFPPpRw 2005-11-27 17:29

>>27

No, becuase x^0 = 1 for all x.  They way you're looking at it, you're thinking 2^0 = 0, but you're mistaken.

Name: Anonymous 2005-11-27 17:57

( )O( ) = fudge for everyone

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-29 4:04

bump

Name: Rodwy !!rBqwyAfUCCgK/2y 2008-07-02 5:00

Windows calculator says 1, although it could be horribly wrong.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-04 0:33

>>9
>>10

This made me laugh. Thank you anon.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-07 6:19

>>10

Python says its 1 as well, so, yeah. Probably.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-08 0:12

Oh Knuth, you devil, you!

Some textbooks leave the quantity 0^0 undefined, because the functions x^0 and 0^x have different limiting values when x decreases to 0. But this is a mistake. We must define x^0=1 for all x, if the binomial theorem is to be valid when x = 0, y = 0, and/or x = -y. The theorem is too important to be arbitrarily restricted! By contrast, the function 0^x is quite unimportant.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-08 16:19

0 multiplyed by 0, 0 times.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-08 17:42

>>35
facepalm

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-14 8:14

C says it's 0.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-14 15:25


In[1]:= 0^0

                                        0
Power::indet: Indeterminate expression 0  encountered.

Out[1]= Indeterminate

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-14 18:40

OMG .. it is 1 !!!

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-15 3:36

Search for 'empty set' on Wiki. For Wiki, the article explains it well.

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