Do you think that the Theory of Relativity is incorrent and that Einstein was in fact wrong? One of the things I find the most unbelievable is the thought that time is being warped. I believe time is an illusion created by man to keep track of things. You can't bend or alter what is not there.
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Anonymous2005-10-21 4:59
I dunno about >>39, but I was kind of hoping >>37 would elaborate.
Last I checked, time goes only one direction. There is no support for any hypothesis otherwise. How would time going in circles even work?
yeah, time wouldnt exist if there was no one to observe it. it's just an artifact of the feeble human mind.
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Anonymous2005-10-22 12:08
Time is just "this happens before this", it's not some magical thing.
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Anonymous2005-10-22 12:18
all those physics formulas...wasted
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Anonymous2005-10-24 1:23
Can it be treated quantitatively? I think so!
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Anonymous2005-10-24 9:38
Science doesn't try to make specific, exact descriptions of what the world *is*. It merely describes how it behaves. Are we in a three dimensional space, or is the third dimension an illusion created by a 2D quantity we can't tell apart from other spacial quantities? Does space really bend into another dimension, or is the geometry simply non-Euclidian?
We don't know, since the predictions the laws of nature make don't differentiate. There's much more to be learned, and many theories to suppliment our current knowledge. However, that doesn't make our current theories wrong, just imprecise.
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Anonymous2005-10-24 13:59
Essentially, Einstein works on a specific, microscopic basis whereareas Chaos and quantum physics works on a macroscopic level.
Time is a measruable property, if it was an illusion there would be nothing to suggest it exists.
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Anonymous2005-10-28 16:21
>>49>>53>>52
That's the reason I changed my trip FAGZ DUN STOLED MY TRIPCODE, and thanks for whoever anon'd my imposter (He's at my school, so we share Ip's).
and >>54
The issue is not that "time" is measurable or not. You can quantify change.
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Anonymous2005-10-28 16:22
>>49>>53>>52
That's the reason I changed my trip FAGZ DUN STOLED MY TRIPCODE, and thanks for whoever anon'd my imposter (He's at my school, so we share Ip's).
and >>54
The issue is not that "time" is measurable or not. You can quantify change.
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Anonymous2005-10-29 5:22 (sage)
That's the reason I changed my trip
WTF are you talking about? Get off the drugs.
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Anonymous2005-10-31 16:17
I entered a HASH to make a TRIP code! HAWHAHWAHWHAWHAWHAHWHAHAW.
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Anonymous2005-11-02 21:49
Bullshit one #1. They have sync'ed two watches. One was put on a supersconic jet and flown really fast around the world. When it landed, the watches were slightly out of sync. Meaning that the closer to the speed of light you reach, the more time slows down.
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Anonymous2005-11-04 13:32
>>59
That was an interesting study. But remember that while it is extremely convincing evidence, various factors could have caused the offset. For instance, exposure to diferent electromagnetic fields could have slowed the propagation delay in the electronics sufficiently to produce a large enough variation to seem noticeable. It's always ok to be the skeptic, so long as you arn't stupid about it.
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Anonymous2005-11-12 22:09
I think that we have no right to speculate as we have nevar read the theory of reletivity and probably whouldnt understand it anyway we should instead talk about:
SHRINKIN: Its the future! Shrinking raises the speed of light and slows time as well as removeing gravity. INFINATE SPEED HA HA HA HA
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Anonymous2005-11-14 2:19
GPS depends on the theory of relativity. In fact, most satellite communication depends on it.
The theory of relativity is also regularly demonstrated in the nation's particle accelerators.
It's a solid, testable, proven theory.
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zeppy!GuxAK3zcH.2005-11-15 11:34
>>62
haha you said "theory" and "proven" in the same sentence. Tell me, when has sceince ever been proven and solid? Never. You make things seem so clear cut. Scientists tend to do that. They try to make everything seem perfectly under control. In reality, we haven't even begun to understand life's complex rythms and its subtle tones. Why then, is such a grand, all encompassing, concept such as relativity so immediately true? We're in no rush. It will (and has) been proven wrong already. How about Einstein thumpers move on, and study metaphysics, or a useful train of wisdom instead of the cyclic reasoning that gets them nowhere.
the only fault to relativity is its disjointedness, all predictions of general relativity have been factually proven... special relativity is a dirty fix
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uniKIX!2m3gmkw9Wc2005-11-15 15:35
>>64 >>66
failures. You guys obviously don't keep up on times. stop fucking living in a fantasy world where Einstein is god and Relativity is his messiah. relativity, like the messaih, fell many years ago
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Anonymous2005-11-15 15:41
>>67
variations in the speed of light do not invalidate general relativity
all gr predictions have been observed
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Anonymous2005-11-16 11:11
>>67
Relativity fell, but Special Relativity did not.
>>59
Why didn't they do it with a stopwatch, a mechanical clock, and an electron clock? Time is the only thing (I think) that has the same effect on all three of them... If the watches off of the jet are out of sync with the land clocks, and yet in sync with each other, then it'd more strongly suggest time as a real force rather than an illusion...
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zeppy!GuxAK3zcH.2005-11-16 11:55
>>71
Time describes a phenomenon that is very real, which is progression. The actual measurable scale and human concept of time, is however, a fabrication of our minds in order to effectively describe the phenomenon. Not exactly an illusion, but in essence it is a real force.
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Anonymous2005-11-16 14:28
so, high speed doesn't slow down "time" per se, just the progression of the atoms that make the clocks run?
Well, the thing is that despite time being an invention of humanminds fact remains that events happen in order.
If I for example eat breakfast in the morning and then take a shower this will make an inprint on the dimension of "time", my breakfast happened earlier than my shower.
When one bends time you get closer or furthur away from one point in the dimension of "time", hence the discussion of time is irrellevent since it is just the order of events that is important. Time is just a tool for measurements and usage for everyday life.
Sorry, that might have been confusing :S