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Ten Healthy People

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-29 14:03

Ten isn't really necessary or the limit, just more than two. Can be any race. Can not be all of the same sex. These people have tested consistently healthy, phsyically and mentally. They have no STDs. Stick them in a confine with adquate everything: air/water/food etc to live. Basically a paradise. No contact with the outside world. They can have sex as much as they want, straight and gay, interchange partners, have orgies, whatever.

How long does it take before they develop a STD? If they do at all? Has there been a study like this?

Name: Mothra 2005-06-29 19:49

Infinity.  What part of sexually-transmitted do you not understand?

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-30 2:17

You sound offended.

Ok then, if you can only get STDs from someone who has STDs then why do STDs exist at all?

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-30 2:55

because people with stds keep having sex thus infecting others?

how it all began is anyone's guess of course

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-30 3:19

Under's 2's logic STDs shouldn't exist at all. And yet STDs do exist, so what? It spontaneously generated? If a study like this was done with a controlled environment, it might be determinable as to how it all began. I made the assumption that it would require multiple partners, but separate cases involving hetero and homosexual pairings should be tested as well.

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-30 4:08

It would take a considerably longer amount of time for some new sort of disease to evolve, ST or not, orders of magnitude longer than how long your little 10-person orgyfest could manage to survive as an inbred, genetically poor micropopulation.

Also, lol chicken and egg problem.

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-30 15:33

Std viruses evolve from non-std viruses.
The keyword is "they don't have STD". That doesn't mean they don't carry a disease at all. therefore : estimation = +-250 years.

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-30 23:26

Well, it's not something that can be easily quantified... Most diseases mutate pretty much at random, and you can't tell if the mutation is going to lead to a new disease or not.  Besides, we don't even know what candidates for new diseases we even have here, whether a disease affecting the inside of the heart can become problematic or what. 

250 years is WAY too small an amount of time.  It would take a population of 1000 probably 100 years to develop any disease, (+ or - 1000 years because it's so random) and one should also keep in mind that as population grows, the possibility of mutations in the parasitic lifeforms grows exponentially.

I haven't read any numbers on how quickly human populations grow, but that would probably be an important factor to consider as well. 

Considering we only have maybe 60 serious STDs arisen out of our population of billions, it may take very long indeed. 

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-30 23:29

>>6 there have been studies that have shown that inbreeding often weeds out harmful genes in a pool, and basically cleans the genome, making their genes more pure.

However, it should also be noted that inbreeding leads to homogenization, which makes the population as a whole more vulnerable to diseases...  YOu see, what one individual is weak against, all the other individuals are weak against.

>>1 The question is a lot more complicated than you'd asked for isn't it?


Well, it's not something that can be easily quantified... Most diseases mutate pretty much at random, and you can't tell if the mutation is going to lead to a new disease or not.  Besides, we don't even know what candidates for new diseases we even have here, whether a disease affecting the inside of the heart can become problematic or what. 

250 years is WAY too small an amount of time.  It would take a population of 1000 probably 100 years to develop any disease, (+ or - 1000 years because it's so random) and one should also keep in mind that as population grows, the possibility of mutations in the parasitic lifeforms grows exponentially.

I haven't read any numbers on how quickly human populations grow, but that would probably be an important factor to consider as well. 

Considering we only have maybe 60 serious STDs arisen out of our population of billions, it may take very long indeed. 

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Name: Anonymous 2009-01-08 21:49

i say about 1-2 months for women, if you're like me and consider babies the worst std of all

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