Venting

I dislike Python. I dislike everything about the language and all the XKCD reading hipster fashionista trendroids who use it.

I used Python at my job, (previously having no experience with it) cause I heard it was "clean" and "like pseudo code" and figured it would be better than a batch file for Windows. It was not.

It has so much syntax. The only other language I know that has as much syntax is Haskell (another terrible language I spent some time with cause it had a positive reputation (and because of University too, I suppose)). I want all the time I spent learning Python and Haskell back and I just want to devote it to my C or Common Lisp skills.

I hate Clojure.

I dislike anyone, and I mean anyone, who hasn't written a program for dynamic code generation in the context of software rasterization or JIT compilation and dares to have an opinion on programming languages.

I dislike anyone who hasn't written at least a basic CAS and dares to have an opinion on programming languages.

I dislike anoyone who hasn't written at least a vector graphics library with at least the functionality of providing NURBS (at the abstraction layer of plotting pixels using the OS or I guess X windows) that dares to have an opinion on programming languages.

I dislike anyone whose experience with programming is nothing but plumbing other ready made components together.

I dislike "UNIX" as it appears to me in (admittedly bastardized) form in the small set of Linux distributions I have used (Debian, Scientific, OpenSuse, Ubuntu, Funtoo, and Arch Linux). I am keeping an open mind to other unices (I mean to try Plan9 one day, and will probably swap my Linux Distro of choice from Arch Linux to Guix once Guix becomes more stable, also I like how Minix tries to be "one person understandable").

I use a Linux distribution cause that's where all the momentum is, but I'm not happy about it at all. I really really dislike it when someone tells me that something like a modern Linux distribution is actually "good" in any way. I guess I don't dislike that as much as when some even more clueless person says "Linux" is bad because OSX or Windows is better, but I still dislike it. Let me generalize this. I dislike anyone who has an opinion on operating systems but hasn't used at least one of
+ Oberon
+ Genera
+ MacOS (<8) or AmigaOS.
or something other than LINUX WINDOWS OSX. Ideally they'd also have experience with Self (or Smalltalk).

I really dislike people who dislike C, C++ or Java. I don't love these languages, and blame them for a lot, but they're probably better than the Ruby Python Factor Erlang Haskell Clojure Coffescript or whatever the fashionista saying they disklike them thinks is better.

I really dislike people who don't use an ENTERPRISE QUALITY IDE or Emacs. Preferably everyone would use some kind of Emacs. Preferrably Xemacs would have won.

I dislike copyleft. I feel that if the FSF people were honest all their programs would be public domain. I don't like how if I make a public domain program that uses GPLed code I have to make the package GPL if I distribute it. I just don't like that. I don't like having to put legal notices all over the place.

I suppose copy left would be OK if 100 year copyrights or whatever weren't the norm. Copyright was meant to promote competition in a free market by tampering with it and giving new producers a legal monopoly on the distribution of a new product for a few (7) years. Instead copyright is being used as a scarcy emulator for IP.

Now for things I wish were different.

I wish Open Genera and VLM would be released to the public (as free software) At the very least it would be an alternative to Emacs.

I wish Steve Jobs never returned to Apple to kill the Apple of the 90s.

I wish some jerks over in the USA didn't know everything about me and couldn't predict my every move based on years of data they've collected about me. I've made mistakes in life. I want to erase them. It bothers me that it exists recorded somewhere and I just can't get rid of it. I think this is the most inhuman consequence of the internet.

I wish there weren't so much cargo cult repetition of things and someone would just cut to the issue on a lot of these buzzwords I just want to have a clearer idea of quickly so I can move on.

Since I spent 4 years at University, I really do wish I took the initial choice of school more seriously and didn't go to some stupid cow college. Although, sometimes I have my doubts any school would have been better. There seems to be a real gap in quality teaching because I would love for a lot of this sewage I have to trudge through to find gems of knowledge and understanding would just go away.

`>free market
ISHYGDDT

Who the hell is going to use Oberon, Genera or AmigaOS? Nobody owns computers with this. I wouldn't use any of these because none of it is free software.

>>4

IIRC Oberon is public domain. Niklaus Wirth also has a (free) book describing the 12,000 or so lines of text that implement the Oberon system. There is also a book on the Oberon compiler.

I have an Oberon system (Both Bluebottle and System 3) running in QEMU. I have AmigaOS 3.9 and 3.1 running in FS-UAE. I have Open Genera running under VLM ontop of a Debian 4 (or 5 idk some old version) running in QEMU (I might change this to Slackware).

I have also emulated other systems. It's a hobby of mine :)

Actually the only two other systems I have are MacOS 7.5 (cause I wanted to play with Hypercard, Dylan, PowerPlant etc.) running under BasiliskII and a ColorForth image running under QEMU.

The Amiga emulation was for playing with ARexx and the DataTypes library. AmigaOS isn't for its big ideas, rather just
plain good engineering.

Oberon was just to follow along Wirth's book when I was reading it.

As I mentioned I plan on learning and using Plan9 at some point, and I keep meaning to read that Tannenbaum book.

IDK though, when you use something like Genera or a Self image and then you use something else, you just wonder WTF why why why. You use something like Oberon, you read one book and you understand the whole OS and I mean really understand it. Things could have been really different. Really really different.

But no we have "nerds" in "college" reading XKCD and fawning over how some Unix-like is an IDE for C or something. They don't know what a development environment is.

I wish some jerks over in the USA didn't know everything about me and couldn't predict my every move based on years of data they've collected about me. I've made mistakes in life. I want to erase them. It bothers me that it exists recorded somewhere and I just can't get rid of it. I think this is the most inhuman consequence of the internet.

Whoa. You need to get away from computers for a bit.

>>6
A development environment is anything that helps one develop software. A GNU Nano + Bash + GCC environment would probably the smallest software environemnt one could use. I personally use Emacs because I love Scheme and SLIME.

>>8
`>not using Ed + rc + 9c
>2013
ISHYGDDT

| >>8
| `>not using Ed + rc + 9c
| >2013
| ISHYGDDT

>what is sam

>>10
>what is sam
A big shit

`>using sum
>2013
ISHYGDDT

>>11
nice dubs

you sound like a grumpy, lonely person.

3/10 would not sit with during coffee

VMS is best OS ever.

UNIX is shit. Nobody (sane) disputes that. Doesn't mean it isn't superior to the alternatives, of which one (Windows) is even worth a mention, but only barely.

I really dislike people who love ASM or C and dare to compare them to anything yet have never written a line of networking code in either. If you haven't written a server or client then you're not even a novice and need to shut the fuck up.

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>>15
>le pedophile sage

>>1
I really dislike people who don't use an ENTERPRISE QUALITY IDE or Emacs.
Well, go fuck yourself.
a Vimlord


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>>1
top kek. post some lisp code to back up your claims of how godly it is compared to python
ISHYGDTT

kek'em

install gentoo

I don't think minimalism is a good goal, I also dislike people who do.

A better goal is to maximize understandability * power.

Emacs is very large, but it is very very understandable, and very powerful.

For example, in Emacs I can M-. to a function definition in Emacs source, edit it, C-x e (evaluate) it and change the behavior of my editor. I can C-h v to see the value of a variable and where its defined. Similarly I can C-h f to get the documentation for a function, and where it is defined.

I can also open up ielm and interact with Emacs through a REPL.

GNU Emacs is not ideal. There are better Emacsen. However it is the most popular Emacs, and this is very important, because this means a lot of useful programs will be written targetting it. If time were infinite it would not be so important.

>>24
why are you shilling all over /prog/? only autists use those keybinds emacs has. how haven't you broken your thumbs yet doing them?

>>3
ISHYGDDT
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