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Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 0:26

I fail to see the humour in this. Uncontrolled emotions often lead to illogical thought processes and behaviour. Illogical behaviour is at best suboptimal or counterproductive, and at worst outright destructive. While metaphorically beating one's emotions into submission might sound odd to most humanoids inhabiting this planet, it is necessary due to our brain's functioning and our current inability to change or improve upon it.

τλ;δρ emotions are shit, rationality must prevail.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 0:28

>>1
emotionally clouded judgement..

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 0:29

>>1
Emotions and rationality are not necessarily in opposition. This thread may now be closed.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 0:33

>>1
I do not believe so. The burden of proof rests on your metaphorical shoulders.

>>3
Your objection is irrelevant. If one wishes to compare two functions with the purpose of determining which is best according to some criterion, one does not focus on the cases in which their valuations are identical since that does not give any information.

Name: >>4 2013-04-02 0:34

correction: I meant ">>2", not ">>1" in the first line of my posting.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 0:35

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 0:35

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 0:37

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 0:37

>>3
What? That was so abstract as to be intelligible. I guess you mean to exclude from the discussion those cases when emotions are superfluous to the decision, i.e. they don't change the outcome? I'm saying that they can be as good a base for a decision as any.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 0:39

>>9
Damn, serious lack of sleep here. I meant unintelligible.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 0:39

>>9
Are you sure you're quoting >>3?

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 0:40

>>11
Nope, not sure at all. I meant >>4. Either way, I need some sleep.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 0:45

>>8
the stillness is the move ^^

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 1:10

Is an emotionless state just another emotion?
Life would be richer if we had no emotions..?

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 1:22

>>9
I'll explain what I meant in >>4: Choose some "goodness" metric. Consider two methods for decision-making (input is an environment and a query, and output is a decision). If you analyse all cases where method A (rational thought) and method B (emotional response) yield the same decision, you learn nothing about the differences between the two. However, if you analyse the cases where method A and method B yield different decisions, you may compare the decisions for each case and see which is better (given some metric) for each case, then judge the efficiency of the methods by that.

Since method A (rational thought) always chooses best decision given the metric, every time the output of method B disagrees with it, this output cannot be any better than the decision outputted by method A (by the maximality of the latter). Therefore, method A is always better than or equal to method B. In practise, however, the inequality is strict.

>>14
I was referring to controlling one's emotions, not eliminating them entirely.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 1:25

Perhaps OP is overwhelmed with this new-coined emotion - 'limbo', and even perhaps fears the other emotions..?

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 1:51

>>15
Choose some "goodness" metric. Consider two methods for decision-making (input is an environment and a query, and output is a decision). If you analyse all cases where method A (rational thought) and method B (emotional response) yield the same decision, you learn nothing about the differences between the two
No, you learn that emotions, being part of the human experience and the well being of people, can be a part of rational decision making. Such as when you reason about your emotions and your happiness and that of others, how will taking a certain decision will make you feel in the future, the soundness of your aspirations, and in general, living as a sentient being. Not taking them into account at some level is irrational; it will only result in your unhappiness.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 2:15

>>17
I never stated that the "goodness" metric cannot account for the personal happiness of oneself and that of others. My statement is simply that in the process of decision-making, given a particular "goodness" metric which may include happiness and emotions and whatever, the most optimal solution will always be the one dictated purely by logic.

Disregarding emotions when one's own brain constitution is dependent on them is obviously illogical, and I never suggested otherwise.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 2:19

>>18
You don't even know formal logic. So stop throwing that word around, nerd.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 2:21

>>19
Your ad hominem is irrelevant. I recommend getting fucked with a rake.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 2:39

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Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 6:55

>>21
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Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 7:15

>>22
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Name: Anonymous 2013-04-02 7:30

>>23
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>>24
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