What I found interesting in the around Adria Richards, was that the majority seemed to focus on a basic definition on racism. This made me rethink my previous assumptions. I want to discuss in (-:prog:-) if Afro-Americans can be truly racist to the majority conservative white population. I believe it would be a fallacy to think a Afro-American can be racist toward a white conservative male, seen in the light that the former does not belong to a majority and is thus not equally valued in terms of power and influence. What do you think (:prog:)
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The Sussman Brothers!
Truly today has been a blessed day.
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Anonymous2013-03-30 9:22
>>1
I believe that the majority in the internet debacle around Adria Richards, define racism as color awareness. This is a common error made by the uneducated. Because of the non-existence of races, we cannot define racism in simple terms of physiology. There is a deeper context we need to seek. I would like to propose, that racism is in principle an aggressive force enforced by the majority. So an Afro-American can be racist, but he/she cannot be racist in the VS. Racism is nothing more than the instinct to protect the group against the unknown outsider, which has different cultural rules and ethical laws. Racism is the force, which forces a monoculture upon minorities, which eventually will homogenize the cultural differences.
You are making the mistake that there is no such entity as race. Humanity is not divided into races. We are essentially on a abstract level the same. Only due to behavioral difference attenuated by economical and ecological deviations we can explain the differences between two persons.
I think it is rather discriminatory to assume behavioral difference actually exist. Due to economical and ecological factors it could be that the behavior is modified because of changing circumstance. E.g. if we put a white male into the same environment with the same socio-economic handicap we may see the same behavior arise.
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Everyone can be a bigoted fuckwad, and racism is defined as ethnic/racial/lingual bigotry. Unless you're a social justice Sally and you absolutely refuse to submit to the dictionary patriarchal superstructure. So yes, black people can be just as racist as everyone else.
You're probably confusing racism with large-scale or institutionalized racism. In that case, yes, the bias is clearly against non-whites. And then again, one must be very careful when interpreting statistics, because it's very easy to come to shitty and bigoted conclusions (such as saying that only white people can be racist).
to think a Afro-American can be racist toward a white conservative male
I think the best thing an Afro-American can be to a white conservative male is an apoptose mechanism.
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Anonymous2013-03-30 13:41
Racism definition: What white males say and/or do.
But adria is right...
If she were a white male, the whole world would've stopped being Racist/Sexist/etc-ist already, because you gotta respect dem Wasps..
Racism is a personal trait. It has nothing to do with the power or intelligence to effectuate racist actions.
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Anonymous2013-03-31 12:54
>>1
Adria Richards isn't African. She is 1/2 Jewish, likely on her mom's side.
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Anonymous2013-04-02 1:13
Afro-American
'nuff said
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Anonymous2013-04-02 4:57
>>25
She identify as Afro-American, but even then. Jewish people cannot be racist, because they are a minority and are not the on in power.
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Anonymous2013-04-02 5:01
>>27
Jewish people are in power, else how do you explain the prevalence of Jewish oligarchs and the fact they were allowed to control American currency?
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Anonymous2013-04-02 5:08
>>27 She identify as Afro-American
For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Petrosyan identifies himself as Russian, despite being Jewish by Halakha and owing his publicity to his Jewish relatives. So?
>>30 There is no such thing as race.
That is what Jews want us to believe. Yet it is possible to construct a virus that will be killing only Jews, because all Jews share http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MtDNA
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Anonymous2013-04-02 5:27
>>31 mtDNA is a powerful tool for tracking ancestry through females (matrilineage) and has been used in this role to track the ancestry of many species back hundreds of generations.
I.e. mtDNA is our hope to exterminate Jews once and for all. Not a single Jew will survive a well designed and distributed virus.
We should consider delivering virus with food or water.
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Anonymous2013-04-02 5:42
>>32
I doubt mitochondrial DNA will be much help. Because the virus has to get into the cell to find specific mitochondrial protein. If it cannot find it, it should not replicate and die in a nice way. That's quite some molecular machinery you have to build.
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I found it extremely insightful, that people are (f)actually prepossessed with their environmental and sociological commonalities. I think this is a more important marker than race and thus makes racism a rejected variable in models predicting behaviour.
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Anonymous2013-04-02 9:57
>>40
That is what Jews want us to believe. Yet it is possible to construct a virus that will be killing only Jews, because all Jews share http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MtDNA
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Anonymous2013-04-02 12:31
>>41
It must therefore also be possible to construct a virus that kills only goyim. And since we control every single lab in the world, because we are the master race, well...
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Anonymous2013-04-02 13:22
>>42
Catch the bear before you sell his skin, Hymie!
Can they *not* be racist? I'm asking because everyday they must realize that they are inferior to the white race, unless they close their eyes, which would be pretty silly. I'm pretty sure they must be mirin, at best pretending to hate, because deep down everything living on this earth would LOVE TO BE BORN A WHITE MALE, it's the ultimate jack pot, the creme of the creme produced by 4 billion years of life, a white dude. Now can we settle this shit once and for all, we all know it and there isn't one iota left to say about it.
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Anonymous2013-04-02 13:42
>>43
It's far more enjoyable to keep you around as slaves, that's the only reason you are alive.
I found it extremely insightful, that people are (f)actually prepossessed with their environmental and sociological commonalities.
Let's rewrite that a little bit:
I found it insightful, that people are actually I dropped the retarded (f) very busy with their shared social and environmental properties.
And now translate it:
People are only busy with their surroundings and shit around them. Don't care about other shit.
I think this is a more important marker than race and thus makes racism a rejected variable in models predicting behaviour.
Marker for what? There success? Dating successes? It are just empty hollow words put together by some retard.
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Anonymous2013-04-02 14:21
This fucking makes me RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAge.
I feel saying corrective rape is racist. In South-Africa there is a ceremony where rape is used to express their beautiful culture.
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Anonymous2013-04-04 14:14
>>57
I agree, white people shouldn't do corrective rape since it's cultural appropriation.
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Anonymous2013-04-04 14:23
No American can be racist. We love niggers! We even have a nigger president!
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Anonymous2013-04-04 14:26
>>59
Great. Now all you need is a white Mandela. Fighting for the freedom of your people and stuff.
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Anonymous2013-04-04 14:41
Adria Richards and the medias are kind of right there. Racism goes from superior races toward inferior ones. Therefore an Afro-American can only be racist with a baboon.
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Anonymous2013-04-04 14:43
*a nigger, woops
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Anonymous2013-04-04 22:38
>>57-62
this is fucking hilarious. just when I thought nikita had killed off any chance of racism ever being non-boring on this board.
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Anonymous2013-04-04 23:12
>>63
Do not despair! Racism is fun! Racism is cool! Racism is fresh!
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard23.html
Strengthening the ties within the senior collective was the fact that each and every one of them was related to each other, all being part of one Canadian Jewish family, relatives of either Nathan or Barbara Branden. There was, for example, Nathan’s sister Elaine Kalberman; his brother-in-law, Harry Kalberman; his first cousin, Dr. Allan Blumenthal, who assumed the mantle of leading Objectivist Psychotherapist after Branden’s expulsion; Barbara’s first cousin, Leonard Piekoff; and Joan Mitchell, wife of Allan Blumenthal. Alan Greenspan’s familial relation was more tenuous, being the former husband of Joan Mitchell. The only non-relative in the class of '43 was Mary Ann Rukovina, who made the top rank after being the college roommate of Joan Mitchell.
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Anonymous2013-04-05 8:33
>>69
If you spend so much time programming and developing products as you spend learning about jews, you might be as rich as Bill Gates by now.
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Anonymous2013-04-05 9:02
>>70
Bill Gates became rich due to his Jewish ancestry and friends, not because he was educated or talented.
And I refuse using any language but LISP, immediately discarding all PHP or JavaShit job opportunities.
>>70
There is no logic with Nikita, only jews. In his mind, people cannot succeed because of jews, despite the fact that non-jews do succeed in their endeavors.
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12 Steps Dubs Support2013-04-05 9:03
We admitted we were powerless over dubs — that our lives had become unmanageable.
Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
Humbly asked Him to forget all of our dubs.
Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to others, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
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Anonymous2013-04-05 9:14
>>72
I refuse PHP, which is invented by Jew and the most popular language, so I can't get work directly because of Jews, who created this ugly piece of shit language.
Same with my eucation - I can't enroll into university, because I don't accept Set Theory axioms, which were invented by Jews (Cantor, Zermelo and Frenkel).
I refuse PHP, which is invented by Jew And I refuse using any language but LISP Designed by John McCarthy John McCarthy was born in Boston, Massachusetts on September 4, 1927 to an Irish immigrant father and a Lithuanian Jewish immigrant mother
>>75
This is why Nikita is /prog/'s greatest troll.
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Anonymous2013-04-05 11:46
>>75
Wasn't it Steve Russel, who did the implemenetation after exposure to Church's Lambda Calculus, while Timothy Hart invented macros? McCarthy just appropriated their work. It's typical for jewish professors to steal inventions of their students. And then McCarthy went to create Algol, because he regarded Lisp as "a disadvantage".
One can even conjecture that Lisp owes its survival specifically to the fact that its programs are lists, which everyone, including me, has regarded as a disadvantage. -- John McCarthy, "Early History of Lisp"
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Flibble!LTKhF2nHD22013-04-05 15:06
It is important to understand the nature of statistics when talking about very large populations. It is also important to properly classify what racism is when trying to compose objective conclusions about a complex field like sociology.
I would separate racism into aggressive and reactive racism and would make some attempt to determine the intensity of these types of racism. By aggressive racism I mean racism that is motivated by abstract theories largely unrelated to everyday life, theories that may have been put out to justify slavery, abuse of black workers or use bigotry as a political tool. By reactive racism I mean racism that is in reaction to certain experiences such as verbal abuse by another race or seeing members of the other race in poverty and reacting to the increased stress they display. The key difference is how their racism was predominately triggered or sustained, though it is possible for an aggressive racist to develop a confirmation bias due to the propaganda and develop a degree of reactive racism or a reactive racist who has had negative experiences with another race to seek out propaganda and develop aggressive racism I expect the initial trigger to be the ever-present social force defining their particular type of racism.
Can Afro-Americans be racist?
Statistically, as a proportion, I would expect that Afro-Americans are less likely to be aggressively racist, however they may be more reactively racist in reaction to racism directed against them.
Around 66% of the population is white and 15% is black, if 1% of these groups are aggressively racist that means there is 44 white aggressive racists per 1000 black people and 2 black aggressive racists per 1000 white people, with 22 times more whites acting racist without prompt you would expect a correspondingly large number of blacks to become racist in a reaction to this. This triggers a vicious cycle, only a small proportion of racists in the majority is needed to cause a proportionately larger reaction among the minority, this larger proportion of racists and racist attitudes in the minority in turn reinforces racism among the majority causing an escalation.
The solution would be to focus on preventing aggressive racism in the majority and preventing reactive racism in the minority.
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Don't bother bro, Nikita doesn't debate because he is always right. There is no fault with him or his ideas, so everything he proclaims is immutable.
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Anonymous2013-04-06 3:18
>>84
What is the fault with killing the Jews and returning Jewish capitals back to goyim?
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12 Steps Dubs Support2013-04-06 3:35
We admitted we were powerless over dubs — that our lives had become unmanageable.
Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
Humbly asked Him to forget all of our dubs.
Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to others, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.