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Do not know what to code

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-05 2:02

What does /prog/ do when it's bored and doesn't have any idea on what to code?

I have no ideas for any programs that I or someone else would find useful really, but I am so bored.

What do?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-05 2:17

Code a CAPTCHA breaker.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-05 2:25

>>1

I usually have more ideas than I can implement. And they're all shit. But they keep me entertained, so I can't complain.

>>2,2,2,2,2,2

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-05 2:37

make an ERIC RAYMOND

>>1 STATE OF THE WORLD, PEE?

-- esr

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-05 5:42

>>1
code a meta-circular evaluator.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-05 5:45

Contribute to the ReactOS project.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-05 6:28

Find a job. That will exhaust you mentally so that you don't want to code anymore.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-08 11:50

>>7
I wish I could find one. Looking around a lot without much luck.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-08 11:56

>>7

Haha, I know this too well.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-08 12:01

Make an ncurses interface to posting on and reading /prog/

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-08 17:14

i recently made a game, where I can shoot a cow and the bullets were left as a mark, so the player could see where he shoot. The bullets also changed their colors at random.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-08 17:52

OP, create a terrain engine, like in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSOQGazo7Oo

more realistic with 3d fluid simulation.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-08 19:30

>>12
Never mind that, make it consist of voxels.

Name: Code_an_AI_Mind 2013-03-09 10:19

http://mind.sourceforge.net/aisteps.html

will show you how to code an artificial intelligence like

http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/AiMind.html in English;

http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/Dushka.html in Russian;

http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/mindforth.txt in English

http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/DeKi.txt in German.

You are now infected with Memes of Mentifex!

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-09 10:25

it doesn't even work

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-09 10:41

>>14
There is no polite way to say this. The author is a crackpot. Reading the materials he provides on his website, an astute reader will notice several things. Firstly, this person doesn't know how to design software at all. He also presumes that his reader knows even less than he does. The "AI" he proposes is nothing more than a basic for(;;) loop. (One of the primitive constructs provided by C, C++, Java and their dirivitives...). He is aware of some of the limititations of his design but is unaware of their obvious (to any intermediate-level programmer) work-arounds. Secondly, while he is happy to put lavish names, such as "Sensorium", on empty or nearly empty functions, he seems to be completely oblivious to the real issues a succesful AI mind must address.

He throws about refferances to concepts in the AI and futurist community such as the technological singularity but fails to demonstrate any understanding of what they mean. He claims that his design solves the AI problem when, infact, it hardly does anything at all.

He claims that his system is suitable for use in robotics, yet he has done no orrigional experamentation.

He continues to troll the usenet (sending between 5-7 messages to every AI and transhumanism related newsgroup per month) pushing his book and his lame ideas.. (If his ideas had even a tenth the merit he claims he would be world-famous...)

I am an AI enthuseast myself and hope to, oneday, publish my own work on the subject. (you can find some of my writings on my website). I do not have the audacity to claim that my work is yet worth anything because I have not yet made much progress. In general, you should stay away from all books on AI unless they are based on actual work that has been done in the field. Work, in this case, being either hard research on biological systems or software development efforts that have shown some type of results.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-09 10:58

>>16
The "AI" he proposes is nothing more than a basic for(;;) loop.
To tell the truth, every AI runs inside some kind of feedback loop. Basically any AI (even degenerate cases, like ELIZA) reads sensors and writes to manipulators in a loop.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-09 12:17

>>16
is it copypaste or usenet still exists

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-09 15:14

>>18

usenet still exists, faggot-2.0

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-09 18:39

>>16
link to your website?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-09 22:30

>>19
1.0

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-09 23:53

>>14
>>16

...speaking as a computational biologist with both a machine learning background and a neurology background, this is "lol wat" to the extreme. He couldn't even get emotions right.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-10 0:19

>>22
le reductionist face

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-10 0:22

i like his ascii-diagram

                            __________                          
            ___________    /          \    ___________          
           /           \  ( TABULARASA )  /           \         
          /  motorium   \  \__________/  /  BOOTSTRAP  \        
          \_____________/\    __|___    /\_____________/
       __________         \  /      \  /           ________
      /          \         \/  MAIN  \/           /        \
     (  volition  )--------<  ALIFE   >----------( SECURITY )
      \__________/         /\  LOOP  /\           \________/
           _____________  /  \______/  \  _____________   |
          /             \/      |       \/             \  |
  _______ \    THINK    /   ____V_____   \  SENSORIUM  /  |
 /       \/\___________/   /          \   \___________/  _V_
( ENGLISH )  ___________  (  emotion   )       |        /   \
 \_______/  /           \  \__________/        |       ( HCI )
     |     ( VERB-PHRASE )   ________          |        \___/
     |     /\___________/\  /        \      ___V____________
   __|__  /     |      |  \/          \    /                \
  /     \/    __V__    |  (   SPEECH   )--(     AUDITION     )
 (  SVO  )   /     \   |   \          /   /\________________/
  \_____/   ( REIFY )  |    \________/   /   |            |
     |       \_____/   |    /           /    |            |
     |          |      |   /           /   __V__         _V___
     V__________|______V  /   ______  /   /     \       /     \
    /                   \/   /      \/   / OLD-  \     / NEW-  \
    \    NOUN-PHRASE    /   ( audSTM )  ( CONCEPT )   ( CONCEPT )
     \_________________/     \______/    \       /     \       /
                             /           /\_____/       \_____/
                  ________  /   ________/    |  \_______/  |
                 /        \/   /        \    |  /       \  |
                ( audRecog )  ( ACTIVATE )   | ( enVocab ) |
                 \________/    \________/    |  \_______/  |
                    _________  /             V_____________V
                   /         \/             /               \
                  ( SPREADACT )            (   INSTANTIATE   )
                   \_________/              \_______________/

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-10 0:54

>>16
>Secondly, while he is happy to put lavish names, such as "Sensorium", on empty or nearly empty functions, he seems to be completely oblivious to the real issues a succesful AI mind must address.

they are not empty :3

http://mind.sourceforge.net/aisteps.html

2. Code the  Sensorium module of AI4U Chapter 23(2002):99-103.
Start a subroutine or module that is able to sense something  coming in from the outside world, i.e., a key-press on the keyboard.
First code recognition of the Escape-key (ASCII 27).
Next code recognition of the Tab-key (ASCII 9).
Then code recognition of the Enter-key (ASCII 13).
Take the ESCAPE-key handler or other mechanism of stopping the
 AI out of the main Alife loop and transfer it to the Sensorium stub.
Test the embryonic robot mind by demonstrating that the main Alife loop either waits briefly for Sensorium input during each cycle, or generates an event-driven response to input detected by a Sensorium module. The proper response will be to keep cycling upon normal input or to terminate execution upon halt [ESCAPE] input. Share your code on the Web.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-10 3:14

>>25 he is trying at least ^^

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-10 3:24

looks like he's(?) already gone too complex though.. things like vision can be done, but just about need separate processors / or at least a core/thread(?) to itself..?

needs to be simpler..

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-10 3:28

=) but complicated enough to work..

Can a mind be built of a finite state machine?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-10 3:56

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-10 4:10

Typically I just code whatever my clients are paying me massive amounts of money to code, then I go to the club and throw around money until the hottest 3D pig in the place comes home to blow me.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-10 4:43

>>30
You wish.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-10 7:48

Code a realtime unbiased renderer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZFM4p3l2is

You can easily get impressive visuals without ugly hacks, like SSAO or fake HDRI, used in contemporary games.

Name: s Lagoon 2013-03-10 22:50



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Name: Anonymous 2013-03-10 23:20

>>14
Oh shit I'm infected!

Oh shit Mentishit knows how to BBCoad!

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-10 23:30

poor megan..

So anyway, thoughts on building a software-based mind..?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-10 23:33

>>9 Okay.

Truth against you UNIX drones.
Your first pile of shit. Keep in mind that you're writing a shotty post on 4chan, not scamming people with a weight-loss program.

The best OS is the one with the most relevant software and the most hardware compatibility.
More shit. In my point of view, the best OS complies with standards like POSIX and also has good hardware compatibility. It's entirely a matter of opinion.

Even fucking SOLARIS would be "the best" if it had the software for it.
According to the criteria you listed for "the best OS", it would also need the most hardware compatibility. Try to be consistent in what you say.

Linux is a good OS in "theory". Until they can actually break through into the desktop, productivity and other relevant markets as anything more than a toy OS (android), it's still "shit".
More shit. The following point has just as much substance:
Windows is a good OS in "theory". Until they put a picture of Ballmer defecating like your typical Western human on their start-up screen, it's still shit.

>mfw I run slackware 14, gentoo with dev-kernel builds and Windows 8
>mfw you're still fucking retarded
That's just baby talk.

>>1 I suggest being less of a whiney, shitty baby. Try getting away from your computer for a while, and try reading a few books or talking to a few humans. It'll do you good.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-10 23:34

Can it be done? And since i'm a sucker for a good challenge... Can it be done Here? =)

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-10 23:46

So first, What is a mind..?
I don't expect to build a human one (just yet), don't think my lappy has enough grunt for that anyway..
What about an ant brain? / something smaller perhaps?
What input would it need? / Desired output?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 3:15

>>35

neural networks seem to be the most promising way

as i understand, metifex wrote some loop feedback system, the conception which is widely used without all those big words and which can be loosely compared to simple reflexes

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-11 8:31

>>39 ty for a serious answer =)
r.b.m's too are quite neat, but then you meet the next barrier(?)/how to automatically build them (& do so appropriately..)
mentifex is kind of interesting as a feedback loop since there is a black-box style human element (dialogue).. Don't suppose it would run in monolog // self-conversing system?

Name: Training 2013-03-17 11:32

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-17 12:47

>>40
Get biological: http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/11/30/1719238/spaun-a-large-scale-functional-brain-model

Seriously, I love RBMs and all other Boltzmann machines, but you're not going to find the answers to the great questions of cognitive science here. Start with a semi-inflexible but biological model like Spaun and work from there.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-17 13:51

mentifex is kind of interesting
Dude, retard-kun is seriously fucking braindead.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-17 15:21

Usually, I post bullshit on the Internet.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-17 20:22

>>42 nice link =) see if i can scratch up some more info..

This simulation takes an hour to simulate one second of neural activity..

The model is called Spaun, which stands for Semantic Pointer Architecture Unified Network. It consists of 2.5 million simulated neurons. The model captures biological details of each neuron, including which neurotransmitters are used, how voltages are generated in the cell, and how they communicate.
from https://uwaterloo.ca/news/news/waterloo-researchers-create-worlds-largest-functioning-model-brain

abstract: mindmodeling.org/cogsci2012/papers/0184/paper0184.pdf

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-17 22:46

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Name: Anonymous 2013-03-17 23:57

>>46
Try again.

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